GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #2

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  • #621
Great first post Maud, thanks very much for that insight with royalties and looking at Helen's finances from your perspective as a fellow writer.
From all we have read, it does seem that Helen was always careful with money and was being sensible whilst possibly thinking of her options with regard to future income.
There was another website, started just before Helen was murdered, which I think also shows her moving on in a new direction.

Not sure if we have had this link put up already, but if we have, it will be way back on Thread One, so here it is again for you and anyone else who has not seen it.

http://andbeyond.life/
 
  • #622
And just adding a :wagon: to Maud and also Peter
 
  • #623
This is my first post - like many newcomers to Websleuths, I have been following the trial with interest, and have found the ongoing thread hugely informative. I would like to thank all the regular posters, and occasional contributors, for their insightful and articulate thoughts.

I did not know Helen, but I am much the same age as she was when she was murdered, and I am also a writer (albeit in a slightly different field). I moved to a village just outside Royston shortly before she disappeared, and initially read about her disappearance in our local newspaper. Like many on the board, I felt drawn to the case because of the way in which her spirit shines through her writing, both in her novels and the Planet Grief blog and book. I just feel very emotionally invested in the case, and keen to see justice for Helen.

The prosecution made it clear at the outset that IS's motive was money. Helen was clearly a wealthy woman, but some have questioned why he would murder her when - if they married - he could claim a significant part of her fortune in the event of a divorce. He and his sons were also already leading an extremely comfortable life, apparently at Helen's expense.

I feel it's worth flagging up two things. Firstly, Helen's income from book royalties was cited (at the commencement of the trial) as being in the region of £5,000 per month. This seems a lot, but would be an average amount over the course of a year - book royalties are never paid more often than quarterly, and often only every six months or even once every twelve months. Importantly, the amounts are not necessarily predictable - sales can ebb and flow - and they are also paid gross to the writer, not net, so Helen would have to pay at least a third of this income in tax. We do know that she had other investments, so the royalties were possibly not her only income - nevertheless, in terms of book fees, she would have had a fluctuating wage, not a steady one. Notably, her books did not make her millions - it takes a world-beating, adult bestseller to do that - and do not seem even to have been a full-time job. (Whilst married to JS, she was working in the licensing business by day, and writing her teen fiction books by night). Secondly, in the police interview that took place at Hartwell Lodge, IS stated that she no longer wanted to write "children's books" (a dismissive term, in my view), and did not want to write anything more in the Planet Grief vein. It would appear that Helen - like many creative people - had reached the end of the road in terms of a particular career path, and was perhaps considering a change of direction, or pondering pastures new. Being careful thus far (with investments etc) had rightly bought her the ability to choose what to do with her time and talents, and I suspect that IS resented this - especially as she seems to have been in no hurry to work during the spring months of 2016. Helen herself would know that the money she had in the bank would not last forever unless she garnered her resources fairly carefully. Hence the relatively modest £600 per month payment into their joint account.

My theory is that IS would have been frustrated by Helen's general care over money, having imagined a life of profligate spending once they established their relationship and moved in together. Their house was large and elegant - even flash, with its outsize, outdoor pool - but must have been costing a large sum to refurbish and maintain. Hence, with no income from IS, and an uncertain stream of money from semi-retired Helen, finances would generally have been much tighter than he might have expected. Helen would have definitely been worried about the ongoing cost of such a big residence (with the rebuild of the conservatory etc - building work is not cheap round here, as I have discovered!) and she seems to have set firm limits on the wedding budget. All of these things would have had to be financed from capital, not her writing income - which was itself set to decrease over time.

I was much struck my IS's comments to the police when reporting her missing "WE have quite a large house..." "a cottage WE have down there (in Broadstairs)". All very lord-of-the-manor ... but when it came to Boris "SHE's got a dog...". I also found his reference to her writing (which by this point was not delivering him all that he craved) as a "hobby" profoundly disrespectful and offensive.

His exploitation of her, and concomitant lack of respect, at least during the latter months of her life, breaks my heart. I do hope justice is done, and swiftly.

A terrific post! Thank you for pointing out that although Helen was a wealthy woman she did not have the income of JK Rowling and the flash house (which I feel sure IS persuaded her to buy in his home town) would have been a drain on her resources. With little to zero contribution to its upkeep from him! I think you've hit the nail on the head - IS acquires the rich widow and the mansion and to outsiders appears to be living the dream, but from his greedy, freeloading perspective, Helen holds the purse strings and is not nearly generous enough to him. The only thing standing between him and her money is her - so she (and her equally blameless and unsuspecting dog Boris) have to go.

The call he made to police revealed a great deal about the man. His casual, relaxed manner was chilling, like he was reporting lost property not a missing partner. I too noticed he called Boris 'it' and referred to him as Helen's dog - while the properties he mentioned were 'ours'. He seems to have had a habit of dismissing Helen's success as an author - rather than be proud of her achievements, he clearly wasn't a bit comfortable with her having higher status than him!

Disgusting, despicable excuse for a man and while Helen could not possibly have known what he was capable of, I wish to God she had come to her senses and realised he simply was not good enough for her on any level.
 
  • #624
Maud - everything you say, I can relate to in the displacement of IS's hopes and plans and control and dreams.
Thank you for your brilliant post - it says it all in his glorification of himself and dismissal of Helen. And IF he could not have full control of the WE and not SHE - then he was driven to a desperate loathing and control.

It is heartbreaking - and we are all waiting for his honesty and justice for Helen and her family. x
 
  • #625
This and the note are what I would say are the biggest flaws in his defence.

There's no reason he should have made this amendment to her standing order.

Do we know exactly what time the amendment was made to the SO? If it's after 2.45pm, there's literally nothing he can say that doesn't make him look guilty of her murder.


The only reason he could've felt clear to make this change is if he knew she wouldn't be able to ever object.

Could he not say she did it on an online banking app on her phone once she had gone?
 
  • #626
11.43 an 12.59 - here it seems is a vital hour when his phone was inactive. Helen had sent her last email at 10.51. and so during this time between 11 o'clock and 1 o'clock IS - phoned the GP postponing appointment - giving himself more time to be rid of the evidence in the Cesspit before collecting himself together for his 'spaced out' meeting with the Nurse to change his dressing.
IF - he suffocated Helen - where was Boris? No Dachshund would be quiet when so attached as Boris was to Helen. They know every breath!! And even stand on duty at the 'gate' when their beloved leaves the room.
I feel strongly that Boris was around his feet - and followed him to the garage .. and Boris followed Helen. Just as if she were in a swimming pool, he would have kept (courageously) to attend to her - be with her.
And Boris drowned in trying to comfort Helen. I cannot waver from this - as he could not kill Boris unless Helen was so unconscious beforehand. And I don't believe he could wrestle with a Dachshund easily to take their breath away.

The murder of Helen is a tragedy, an outrage and an abomination. The killing of her beloved little Boris is another horror story. This additional crime I hope will add further years to IS prison sentence - and please God he will die behind bars.

For me, the most telling clue regarding Boris' fate is the dog toy found in the cesspit. I cannot bear to dwell on it, but I think with Helen dispatched and placed in the cess pit, the toy must have been used to lure Boris to join her. The work of a highly dangerous predator who for many years has successfully hidden the darkness in his soul and walked freely among decent people. IS reminds us that psychopaths generally pass as Mr Average and when caught will prompt umpteen cries of 'But he was such a lovely man' from the people who thought they knew them!
 
  • #627
Thanks, Maud, for the clarifications on Helen's likely income. I agree with most of your observations, but just one thing:

Secondly, in the police interview that took place at Hartwell Lodge, IS stated that she no longer wanted to write "children's books" (a dismissive term, in my view), and did not want to write anything more in the Planet Grief vein. It would appear that Helen - like many creative people - had reached the end of the road in terms of a particular career path, and was perhaps considering a change of direction

Nothing that comes from Ian Stewart can be considered trustworthy. There's no evidence as far as I know that Helen intended to give up writing her teenage fiction series. Just because he said so, doesn't make it fact. He is the one who seems to have resented her more personal writing as well, so he was likely projecting his own wishes on to her. I'm sure Helen had every intention of continuing her career as an author.

Just as an aside, I would like to think his sons, who are apparently both in employment, were contributing something towards household expenses.
 
  • #628
Could he not say she did it on an online banking app on her phone once she had gone?

This is what I find odd. We have been told that he had her passwords for email and FB....and also onto her Mac and IPad, which were open with cleared history when the police began their searches.
So why did he not access her bank account via her PC or phone and then it would look like it was Helen and no problem for him.
 
  • #629
The murder of Helen is a tragedy, an outrage and an abomination. The killing of her beloved little Boris is another horror story. This additional crime I hope will add further years to IS prison sentence - and please God he will die behind bars.

For me, the most telling clue regarding Boris' fate is the dog toy found in the cesspit. I cannot bear to dwell on it, but I think with Helen dispatched and placed in the cess pit, the toy must have been used to lure Boris to join her. The work of a highly dangerous predator who for many years has successfully hidden the darkness in his soul and walked freely among decent people. IS reminds us that psychopaths generally pass as Mr Average and when caught will prompt umpteen cries of 'But he was such a lovely man' from the people who thought they knew them!

I think the **** just threw poor little Boris in alive. There's nothing I'd like more than to have this vile despicable creature suffer exactly the same fate. I hope his future neighbours take note and regularly force his head down unflushed toilets.
 
  • #630
@ Maud. Great post. These insights on her revenue and why she still needed to be careful really help with the subtleties of both Helen and Ian. Also the insights into the challenge she may have felt in changing direction and striking out for a new audience. ( Think this really clarifies any impression of Helen as miserly or unduly careful with money.)

I also thought the "our house", "our cottage", "her dog" stood out pretty starkly when I heard the tape. Baron Stewart! ( Ok later, I gave him the benefit as I guess that he had put money into the purchase of H.Lodge whilst assuming that Broadstairs was hers alone. And indeed from later police evidence at trial, he does start to refer to Broadstairs as "her cottage.")

Agree with Joely, think there's been some resentment brewing over time and as Joely says - inadequacy - attraction/projection and then resentment . Assuming social as well as career. (You can't read that much from the FB pages of people of his generation but even still there seems to be an absence of supportive comments from his acquaintances/well-wishers during the "missing" phase.

I'd be pleased to see some evidence that he did love her, in some measure at the start- just for balance even though I posted pre-trial my suspicion that he may have targeted her as a wealthy widow.
 
  • #631
A bit off topic but I do wonder about him describing her phone as "dead" to police during that initial call. Reminds me of Georgia Williams whose killer texted her parents from her phone saying slightly odd things about "my battery is dying too".

Is that weird? I say my phone is 'dead' when the battery is flat or 'dying' when it's running out all the time. Just a figure of speech.
 
  • #632
DollyDiamond - I can't bear to dwell on Boris' fate either - but I can't get the picture out of my mind that he would have followed Helen to wherever .. and Dachshunds are tiny but SO guarding and protective that Boris would only think of Helen's safety, her closeness. On the other hand IF Boris were attacked by IS he would/could be hugely ferocious and certainly bite - so that when IS turned up to the GP, or the Bowls later that even he would have evidence of bite or scratch marks.
 
  • #633
@ Maud. Great post. These insights on her revenue and why she still needed to be careful really help with the subtleties of both Helen and Ian. Also the insights into the challenge she may have felt in changing direction and striking out for a new audience. ( Think this really clarifies any impression of Helen as miserly or unduly careful with money.)

I also thought the "our house", "our cottage", "her dog" stood out pretty starkly when I heard the tape. Baron Stewart! ( Ok later, I gave him the benefit as I guess that he had put money into the purchase of H.Lodge whilst assuming that Broadstairs was hers alone. And indeed from later police evidence at trial, he does start to refer to Broadstairs as "her cottage.")

Agree with Joely, think there's been some resentment brewing over time and as Joely says - inadequacy - attraction/projection and then resentment . Assuming social as well as career. (You can't read that much from the FB pages of people of his generation but even still there seems to be an absence of supportive comments from his acquaintances/well-wishers during the "missing" phase.

I'd be pleased to see some evidence that he did love her, in some measure at the start- just for balance even though I posted pre-trial my suspicion that he may have targeted her as a wealthy widow.

I question the idea that a man capable of the cold blooded, premeditated murder of a woman and her dog,( and subsequent disposal of their bodies in human waste), is, or was ever capable of loving a human being other than himself. To me this issue is cut and dried - he went on dates with a few widows (including the one who described one lunch with him, before he took up with Helen) but on quickly summing up their modest monetary worth, he moved on. Among the many shocking aspects of this case is that he was not content to be a ruthless gold digger who married Helen for her money (that would have been bad enough), he had to kill her for her money too.
 
  • #634
I think the **** just threw poor little Boris in alive. There's nothing I'd like more than to have this vile despicable creature suffer exactly the same fate. I hope his future neighbours take note and regularly force his head down unflushed toilets.

Amen!
 
  • #635
DollyDiamond - I can't bear to dwell on Boris' fate either - but I can't get the picture out of my mind that he would have followed Helen to wherever .. and Dachshunds are tiny but SO guarding and protective that Boris would only think of Helen's safety, her closeness. On the other hand IF Boris were attacked by IS he would/could be hugely ferocious and certainly bite - so that when IS turned up to the GP, or the Bowls later that even he would have evidence of bite or scratch marks.
Ah I wonder if that was how the duvet got soiled? Helen and Boris didn't have any injuries that would have soiled a duvet so maybe Boris attacked IS,as IS was suffocating Helen, and IS bled onto the duvet. The dog bites may have been in a place he could cover.
 
  • #636
DollyDiamond - I can't bear to dwell on Boris' fate either - but I can't get the picture out of my mind that he would have followed Helen to wherever .. and Dachshunds are tiny but SO guarding and protective that Boris would only think of Helen's safety, her closeness. On the other hand IF Boris were attacked by IS he would/could be hugely ferocious and certainly bite - so that when IS turned up to the GP, or the Bowls later that even he would have evidence of bite or scratch marks.

Yes, like Helen, little Boris had no reason to distrust IS, he thought this man was his family and his guard will have been down.I doubt it even occurred to him to bite IS, before he launched his murderous attack on him. He was so tiny, he couldn't have done much to defend himself. The breathtaking betrayal of trust by this sicko is beyond any normal person's comprehension!
 
  • #637
Just thinking over the evidence from HB's mother in court this week. A lot has been made of HB's episodes of tiredness and the spell on the beach, etc. Her mother claimed that one falling asleep occurrence was while IS was in hospital. How would others here account for that if it was him administering the sleeping med?

I had a chat with my mum earlier about the menopause. She said that while she never had one hot flush the entire time, she did feel extremely tired. She said she'd often have to drag herself out of bed in the morning, and would be so tired again by mid afternoon, she'd have to have a nap; or she'd be watching Emmerdale and would just nod off on the sofa for a few hours. (We have ruled my dad out of any culpability, I will add, ha!) She also had memory problems where she'd thinking of someone she knew well, yet suddenly find she couldn't remember their name. That part she said, she did get a bit panicky over. She also, like HB, looked online about tiredness and falling asleep as she thought she may be low in iron or vitamin b or d.

So what I am saying is *could**these episodes HB experienced have been just part of the usual menopause? Perhaps, as she was a worrier and the type of high strung creative, the symptoms intensified in her mind. I am not saying she wasn't still administered the zopiclone, but whether the idea of these was not so much to kill as to make her question her state of mind and sanity.

Did she ever see her GP about it? Would like to hear testimony from her GP. *I gather HB was not on any medication? Not taking HRT or any blood pressure drug, as presumably these would have shown up. Do I recall that she was taking some kind of herbal supplement though? Do we know what or where from (ie a local Holland & Barrett or similar, or from a private herbalist)?

My other thought - in relation to it being surmised on here that she was being slipped the zopiclone in her food or drink - was what if the drug had been self-administered...unknowingly?

Presumably these herbal supplements (again, am pondering whether these might have been Chinese herbal preparations, which can have strong adverse effects) and the paracetamol were kept in a medicine cabinet in the bathroom (or ensuite if they had such) or maybe in a kitchen cupboard. I don't know what zopiclone looks like, or indeed what these supplements might look like, but if the latter were in a jar or tub, how easy would it be - for someone else in the house - to simply remove some and slip in the zopiclone among them.*If they looked a similar colour/size/shape, they might not be spotted. Anyone taking the supplement would not think twice to closely examine them before taking either: just reach for the jar, shake a couple out and swallow down with water. We know HB was having trouble with her eyes*(as most of us coming into 50s even with prior perfect eyesight, will start to experience trouble reading very small print - the kind on bottle or package labelling, for example), and so may also not have been as observant as a younger person with 20/20 vision.
 
  • #638
Just wanted to welcome all the newbies

:welcome2:
I love that we have a wide mix of views and approaches... from those who feel emotionally invested in Helen's story, those who feel like they knew her, those who relate to Helen as they work in the same industry or have been through similar things to Helen, those who knew Helen through her blog or through forums she belonged to, to those who are who approach the case in a more detached manner and/or follow this case as one of many cases. Everyone is making a valid contribution and I appreciate everybody's input. Thank you!
 
  • #639
Thanks, Maud, for the clarifications on Helen's likely income. I agree with most of your observations, but just one thing:



Nothing that comes from Ian Stewart can be considered trustworthy. There's no evidence as far as I know that Helen intended to give up writing her teenage fiction series. Just because he said so, doesn't make it fact. He is the one who seems to have resented her more personal writing as well, so he was likely projecting his own wishes on to her. I'm sure Helen had every intention of continuing her career as an author.

Just as an aside, I would like to think his sons, who are apparently both in employment, were contributing something towards household expenses.

Yes I think that's true, not only can we not trust a word that comes out of that man's mouth, Helen's books for teenagers were a smash hit and what launched her as a successful author. Writing appealing stories for that most discerning and critical of readerships - teenagers - is no easy task, and Helen had an incredible gift for getting inside their heads and speaking their language. No mean feat for a woman approaching middle age - and one who did not have teenage children of her own! I feel sure her connection with teenagers was a source of pride to her, I believe she often gave talks to them at schools. It doesn't make sense to me that she would have abandoned this readership. IS reveals his own dismissal of her books for young people, he clearly didn't rate them - though he was happy to enjoy the revenue they produced.
 
  • #640
And if anyone wonders why Helen's fledgling website looks fairly amateurish, and unfathomably has gone live in such a poor state - it was designed by none other than self-styled 'computer expert' IS!
 
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