GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #3

[MillyM]

Sleuths, found a 'Sykic' posting here. Not positive same and can't find actual links. May be interesting from the seeming dates given on search for two posts: April 9 2016 6.15pm and April 13 2016 6.23pm

http://chipkit.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=13

 

[Alyce]

Of course we haven't been told yet the significance of the blue shirt. Could someone have seen him wearing a blue shirt where he denies being?

I thought it might be the Refuse tip evidence. We know - if those timings are correct - that he couldnt have gone back home between the Surgery and the Refuse tip.
So Pros is trying to prove it is definately him at the tip, and Defence may be trying to say it is not him.
If he is wearing the same identifiable shirt, then Pros have a good case.
However, as you have said earlier Tortoise, he may have put a jumper or even a jacket on over his shirt which would help muddy the waters somewhat.

Although having said that, we still come back to those odd timings.
Departs Surgery 3.07
Is seen at the Refuse tip 3.02

 

[MillyM]

Found April 9
http://chipkit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3651

Found April 13
http://chipkit.net/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=3653

 

[L2L]

L2L

http://www.express.co.uk/news/world...th-Africa-prison-Reeva-Steenkamp-family-photo

Yes, Mr Fossil and I had a blog.

Yes! That's it! You and Mr Fossil! Great stuff there and more to come I hope!

 

[ColourPurple]

Sleuths, found a 'Sykic' posting here. Not positive same and can't find actual links. May be interesting from the seeming dates given on search for two posts: April 9 2016 6.15pm and April 13 2016 6.23pm

http://chipkit.net/forum/viewforum.php?f=13

They may as well be written in code lol. No idea what the posts are about but definitely looks like it could be him with it being computer related. Do we have any computer experts who can explain what he's asking about?

Could it be related to anything Helen had posted anywhere that he was trying to remove? Or to anything of his that he wanted to delete ?... or is just some irrelevant subject that he was preoccupied with both before and after Helen's death?

 

[Alyce]

I agree. Can't work out why but were they trying to pin down his visits and possible costume changes back at the house? Got me puzzled.
Come on Alyce - you're good at timeframes!

thank you - my OH calls it obsessive but what does he know !

I've put my thought in a post which should be just above this one.

I think the Defence may be going to argue that it was not IS at the refuse tip - due to the time discrepancy - departing the Surgery at 3.07, seen on CCTV at the Tip at 3.02 ??
If Pros can show he was wearing the same shirt at Surgery and the Tip - and explain the time discrepancy ( clock slow ? clock not changed to summer time ? ) then they might have a case.
However, as Tortoise mentioned earlier, if IS put a jumper over the shirt, then Defence may win out.

 

[Alyce]

No. In fact quite a big deal was made of the fact that the CCTV system was not very good e.g. it was a "still" camera and only came into action when there was movement and the cameras around the site were not co-ordinated timewise. Think they talked about having to update them, but no - http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...en-Bailey-51-Royston-11-April-2016-3/page47it wasn`t mentioned.

that could explain the time puzzle

 

[Tortoise]

I thought it might be the Refuse tip evidence. We know - if those timings are correct - that he couldnt have gone back home between the Surgery and the Refuse tip.
So Pros is trying to prove it is definately him at the tip, and Defence may be trying to say it is not him.
If he is wearing the same identifiable shirt, then Pros have a good case.
However, as you have said earlier Tortoise, he may have put a jumper or even a jacket on over his shirt which would help muddy the waters somewhat.

Although having said that, we still come back to those odd timings.
Departs Surgery 3.07
Is seen at the Refuse tip 3.02

Thing is he doesn't dispute going to the tip. And Michelle said nothing was mentioned about that when they saw the CCTV in court, it was a grainy image I think she said.

I think it's more likely to be that they are going to show he went home from the doctors and then back out to the tip - disproving his version of events. Maybe it's not the colour of the shirt, but that he is wearing a t-shirt or old sweatshirt at the tip, or something different from a shirt. Did nurse say he was wearing a button-up shirt to the doctors maybe?

It may be something to do with being at home when Helen's phone was switched off at 3:18. But then surely they would have raised the question of the CCTV timings with the witness from the tip.

I don't know. I hope it becomes clear.

 

[MillyM]

They may as well be written in code lol. No idea what the posts are about but definitely looks like it could be him with it being computer related. Do we have any computer experts who can explain what he's asking about?

Could it be related to anything Helen had posted anywhere that he was trying to remove? Or to anything of his that he wanted to delete ?... or is just some irrelevant subject that he was preoccupied with both before and after Helen's death?

All beyond me too! I thought may be to do with trying to access her accounts, setting up proxys or something?

 

[Bethan]

I was just thinking.... maybe the real plan was to feed her the drugs until she had a car crash. She wasn't a confident driver and driving on sleeping tablets could easily cause an accident. Maybe it's true when she said she wasn't going to drive again. Albeit she didn't say this on the Monday and he decided he'd have to get rid of her some other way. I still have an inkling something went wrong that Monday that forced him into this botched plan though...


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Absolutely agree snoopydog!

I would also like to know if her jeep has been checked over by a mechanic, as part of the police investigation!

I too think he hoped Helen might have a car accident while under the influence of zopiclone, administered in daytime.

He undoubtedly knew their were risks involved, having been prescribed the drug himself. His GP would have warned him, as well as it being emblazoned on the packet.

It only took me a quick google search to find studies suggesting zopiclone dramatically increases the risk of RTA .

And this, presumably in drivers who have taken the drug the night before!!

We heard no explanation as to why Helen announced she wasn't going to drive again.

Had there been an incident? And could this possibly due to a mechanical problem, brake failure or similar??

Or was this story just another of his lies, to explain why Helen didn't take her jeep, when she disappeared??

I hope the police have considered this possibility & checked the jeep carefully.




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[snoopydog]

Hmmm I've done some google digging and found this ...... http://52.1.219.11/Ian+Stewart.html best viewed on web....


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[snoopydog]

I'd like to know why he owns several domains linked to what looks like very dodgy loan shark stuff. Need to check those are definitely his but it looks like it.


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[Alyce]

They may as well be written in code lol. No idea what the posts are about but definitely looks like it could be him with it being computer related. Do we have any computer experts who can explain what he's asking about?

Could it be related to anything Helen had posted anywhere that he was trying to remove? Or to anything of his that he wanted to delete ?... or is just some irrelevant subject that he was preoccupied with both before and after Helen's death?

that's the one.
I have asked others more knowledgeable that me ( which doesnt take much admittedly ) to look at these posts. Nothing really suspicious with regard to Helen.
The dates are the only thing that are of interest - particularly the second one.
That post is really a nothing kind of query - so is he laying a trail of the unconcerned person going about their business whilst their partner is taking a time out.

 

[Alyce]

Thing is he doesn't dispute going to the tip. And Michelle said nothing was mentioned about that when they saw the CCTV in court, it was a grainy image I think she said.

I think it's more likely to be that they are going to show he went home from the doctors and then back out to the tip - disproving his version of events. Maybe it's not the colour of the shirt, but that he is wearing a t-shirt or old sweatshirt at the tip, or something different from a shirt. Did nurse say he was wearing a button-up shirt to the doctors maybe?

It may be something to do with being at home when Helen's phone was switched off at 3:18. But then surely they would have raised the question of the CCTV timings with the witness from the tip.

I don't know. I hope it becomes clear.

Yes, going home after the Surgery works well, time wise, with switching off the phone at 3.18pm - at the house.
And the police should have been able to track where Helen's phone was, more or less, when it was switched off.

 

[MillyM]

I'd like to know why he owns several domains linked to what looks like very dodgy loan shark stuff. Need to check those are definitely his but it looks like it.


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Wouldn't mind betting he does know some dodgy characters. What if he just orchestrated this crime and got someone else to carry it out?

 

[snoopydog]

Ah ok it seems those sites don't all belong to him. Quite a confusing list there ...


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[snoopydog]

http://52.1.219.11/visit?domain=planecrazy.biz this is definitely a site he made. I'll see if I can verify any of the others...


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[snoopydog]

Was poplar farm his old address?


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[Alyce]

Has anyone know why IS often had the username "sykic " for his various accounts?

Normally that's word play on "psychic".

RSBM

That was the initial thought and the possible explanation given by one of our very smart websleuthers ( who is not posting on this thread unfortunately )

However, I got to thinking of this, since the trial and let's face it, he is anything but psychic !

He is however interested in clock mechanisms ( those strange u tubes you found ) and wave machines ( as Milly said, he'll have plenty of time to build one soon ) laser cutting and the like.
So I am thinking now it could be related to physics / quantum mechanics and be a combination of symbols used in this field.

 

[hunkerdown]

Was poplar farm his old address?


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Yes - it matches photos I've seen on HB's Facebook page.


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