GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #4

[Alyce]

Just bringing this back up from Tuesday's evidence. I had missed the fine detail, in the midst of all the other, headache inducing, stuff about Inheritance Tax and Life Policies.

So it seems IS did have an LPA, it was not limited to mental incapacity only and it had been registered and effective.



Stewart granted power of attorney

Ms King-Jones discussed two versions of granting powers of attorney with Ms Bailey.

She said: “Power of attorney is a document that can be put in place appointing someone to step into your shoes, so if you were poorly... then that person could step into your shoes to sign things.

“There was a lasting power of attorney -property and affairs, that relates to property money, shares assets and then there is a lasting power of attorney - health and welfare.”

Documents were registered with the office of the public guardian on March 6, 2015, and Ms Bailey was notified.

Ms King-Jones confirms that Stewart was the individual being granted power of attorney. She says: “The last power of attorney -property and affairs, the appointment of the attorney was Ian Stewart but if he was unable to act then there was a replacement, but that power of attorney wasn’t limited to mental incapacity.”

John Bailey, Ms Bailey’s brother was Mr Stewart’s replacement.

Power of attorney was registered and effective by April 10, 2015. Ms Bailey’s updated will was signed July 25, 2014.

 

[cottonweaver]

What did it say?

Saw this tweet in response to the person saying their dog had been rushed to vet some kind of allergy bumps all over its head:
Helen Bailey (@HelenEBailey) tweeted at 7:49 PM on Fri, Apr 01, 2016:
@LibertyLndnGirl Boris used to get this when visiting my partner's garden. We moved house and it stopped. Never found the culprit.

he listed it in one of his long list of "stressors" to the police on their first contact, that Boris had been ill, so I was wondering if he had slipped the dog something at some stage, in late winter/early spring 2016.

 

[Alyce]

Daily List for Friday 3 February 2017 at BRICKET ROAD ST ALBANS


Court 1 - sitting at 09:45 AM

HIS HONOUR JUDGE BRIGHT QC
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NOT BEFORE 10:30 am
Trial (Part Heard)

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[DollyDiamond]

my responses in bold

Alyce - my thoughts entirely! I am satisfied that as three other people lived with the victim at her home address (and the scene of the crime), the police will have diligently eliminated everyone but IS from their enquiries.

However, I never felt the accounts given by the sons, specifically of the events of Monday11/Tuesday 12, entirely add up. I suspect they have not been as fulsome with their recollections as they might have been. I do not feel it credible that the subject of Helen and Boris' whereabouts was not raised once with their father on the day of her disappearance. I may be wrong, but I get the feeling the prosecution went easy on them and didn't delve too much into their accounts of their interactions with their father on the Monday and Tuesday. They are not on trial and perhaps the pros felt it was unnecessary.

 

[Tortoise]

Could the white duvet on CCTV in actual fact have been pale green?

 

[badhorsie]

OT But anyone like to do this survey as part of my daughters dissertation?

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The survey is about acting as the jury in a court case

 

[Duchy]

Could the white duvet on CCTV in actual fact have been pale green?

I think so yes. If CCTV was in black and white certainly.
I don't think he murdered Helen on the bed. I think he may have used the bedspread to transport her.

 

[mrjitty]

DO the sons have cast iron alibis though, do we know this for a fact? Have their whereabouts been corroborated by others at work places, by colleagues and/or by having to sign in or out. However much we may want it to be IS as the sole guilty party, in my mind I want to be 100% sure that he is and that he wasn't covering for anyone else or acting with, anyone else.

For the purposes of this trial they have led alibi evidence which was uncontested.

We can assume this is because the police are sure about it, and the defence does not wish to contest it.

So that eliminates them for our purposes.

 

[mrjitty]

Hi all. I just want to thank everyone for the updates, tweets and extra information and comments here,
such 1st class stuff. Also the clear descriptions about the court from LitUp made me feel I was there in person.

I'm just a lurker on this case as I don't have the knowledge of Helen that you have all brought into this thread from her book and blogs. Nevertheless were I on the jury I would be considering a guilty verdict on the cadaver dog's alerts alone. Cadaver scent on trousers in their bedroom and the kitchen bench and cleaning materials is quite damning for me, I like incontrovertible facts. The other evidence we have heard just affirms the crime imo.

Must not forget plumage's interesting post about LPA. Seems IS possibly confused GPA with LPA - quite a difference between the two, another c**k up he made.

I hope to hear from IS, but am expecting some "ill health" preventing him from taking the stand next week.
Again - thanks to you all for the excellent info.

what was this about the cadaver dog hits?

i must have missed that

 

[Joely 123]

What did it say?

Saw this tweet in response to the person saying their dog had been rushed to vet some kind of allergy bumps all over its head:
Helen Bailey (@HelenEBailey) tweeted at 7:49 PM on Fri, Apr 01, 2016:
@LibertyLndnGirl Boris used to get this when visiting my partner's garden. We moved house and it stopped. Never found the culprit.

I remember Boris 'being ill' and thinking, did IS make him ill. But I can't remember where I read this - but do believe I commented on this illness. I wonder if there is a way of a member searching their own thread of comments .. so I may find this.

 

[Tortoise]

OT But anyone like to do this survey as part of my daughters dissertation?

https://rhulpsychology.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe5/form/SV_8GmSMaD4vNkZfyl

The survey is about acting as the jury in a court case

That was interesting. Didn't take long either.

 

[Joely 123]

Could the white duvet on CCTV in actual fact have been pale green?

I thought the same thing Tortoise - because of lack of colour definition on their CCTV. A very good question from you.

 

[mrjitty]

ok - i see now

Well that is the absolute clincher is it not?

Who else cleaned up the crime scene?

In order for a cadaver dog to hit the body must have been around for 30 mins or more

 

[Tortoise]

what was this about the cadaver dog hits?

i must have missed that

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...yston-11-April-2016-3&p=13102979#post13102979

 

[mrjitty]

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...yston-11-April-2016-3&p=13102979#post13102979

So the police knew it was murder from the early days - they were just waiting for him to give them a clue as to where the body was.

In the end the only unusual thing about this case was the police failing to check the cess pit in the original search

A crook got lucky

 

[Joely 123]

That was interesting. Didn't take long either.

I don't feel qualified for this Survey - but wish your daughter and her team a great input.

 

[Tortoise]

So the police knew it was murder from the early days - they were just waiting for him to give them a clue as to where the body was.

In the end the only unusual thing about this case was the police failing to check the cess pit in the original search

A crook got lucky

Yes that was in the very early days, the cadaver dog hit was on Friday 22nd April and the Major Crime Unit took over the case on Tuesday 26th April.

He became an official suspect on 27th June when he emailed police to tell them he had lost his phone.

 

[DollyDiamond]

I worry slightly (I'm a terrible worrier, I couldn't shoplift let alone commit murder!) that certain small but pertinent facts may be slipping through the net, eg that Helen did not weight 12 stone at the moment of her murder, that the duvet described as white seen on CCTV footage could in fact be the green one that's missing, and did the pros mention on opening the case that there was no CCTV found of Helen on Monday 11th April, therefore she could not have left the house that day as IS claimed?

 

[Duchy]

OT But anyone like to do this survey as part of my daughters dissertation?

https://rhulpsychology.eu.qualtrics.com/jfe5/form/SV_8GmSMaD4vNkZfyl

The survey is about acting as the jury in a court case

Done :star1:

 

[Duchy]

I worry slightly (I'm a terrible worrier, I couldn't shoplift let alone commit murder!) that certain small but pertinent facts may be slipping through the net, eg that Helen did not weight 12 stone at the moment of her murder, that the duvet described as white seen on CCTV footage could in fact be the green one that's missing, and did the pros mention on opening the case that there was no CCTV found of Helen on Monday 11th April, therefore she could not have left the house that day as IS claimed?

I don't think these points will be missed. Does anyone know if the jurors discuss amongst themselves like on telly? And if so how often? Sorry if this is a naive question!