GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #4

[Florrie]

cyclops - is this why he has the one big eye on his Twitter account then?)

Literally just spat tea everywhere lol.

Well observed, yes you could be right.




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[pinklilies]

I honestly don't know Duchy. If they'd found even more damaging digital evidence, I just imagine that they would have presented it briefly in the Prosecution's opening on day one.

It would be great if it was but it could just be a security guard from Tesco's as someone posted a while back. He has denied that happened too so may be the guard and some CCTV to underscore - here's another lie. ?
Someone who managed a wedding venue who can testify against his "venues kept falling through?"
We must have had about 30 Prosecution witnesses so far. Can't think of who could be left - the gardener saw him acting strangely on the Tuesday? Erm....someone from Palma, Majorca?

If they were already suspecting him of her disappearance in the June, would they have sent someone to Spain to keep an eye on him? Maybe that's only in tv dramas but I'm hoping they have some footage of him meeting up/chatting with some single middle aged woman while there, who he'd been secretly chatting with on the net. From some group he managed to hide.

I remember the officer searching his bank accounts said wtte of 'the accounts he had managed to find of Stewarts' which made me think there could possibly be more which they couldn't find.

Found it:

11:11
Stewart's accounts

The investigator confirms that the accounts he has managed to find for Stewart totalled around £162,000 in cash. He also had a total monthly net income of £1,933.


And I've been thinking about why he would tell the cleaner not to change the bed. Some reports say he told her twice not to. Maybe there was something on the mattress he didn't want her to see.





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[Moll]

Just read all the interesting posts since I stopped looking yesterday evening, and am reflecting on the fact that while I was in and could have followed closely on Thursday and Friday when nothing happened, today I'm going to be out a lot and will be snatching a look in between (being a PC user and thus not connected when I'm out and about).
But I am on tenterhooks to know what happens and wondering whether anyone from here will be able to attend court today? If anything stops it today we'll all explode...

 

[MillyM]

Daily List for Monday 6 February 2017 at BRICKET ROAD ST ALBANS

Court 1 - sitting at 10:00 AM

HIS HONOUR JUDGE BRIGHT QC

Trial (Part Heard)
T20167121
STEWART Ian
41E12190616

PAPER FILE

Hope there's a full jury today and we can get underway again. And, Tara said she was back on court reporting duties (hurray!) this week.

 

[Squamous]

Hope IS, all jurors, counsel and the judge are in good health today. Was the juror with an ill relative dismissed?

 

[Florrie]

I know Dolly posted about the son's and their lack of apparent affection for Helen. At the time I thought that like a lot of young men in late teens/early twenties they were just so busy with life that it was a case of "Dads new partner, yes we like her and we take life as it is with no major thought" .

What's changed my mind slightly about this is their relating to Helen being missing with the words "the house wasn't the same without Boris". No mention at all of Helen.

Now obviously we are not in court so we don't know the nuances of how things have been said there. It could have come across better in the sharing than in the reporting.

I was taken though with the utter eradication of Helen in that comment.

I know lots of young men will use home as just a base from which they emerge to conduct a social life. They may take no part in the other stuff that goes on there....and thankfully this only lasts a few short years generally. However to miss Helen out completely was very telling.



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[cottonweaver]

While we're waiting might as well paste this up, in case he does take the stand this afternoon.

The next witness is Detective Constable Hollie Danes. She went to see Stewart with her colleague.“The first visit was to attend a video recorded interview with him to obtain details of his last movements.
“We said we needed to conduct an interview with him. Stewart didn’t appear as if he wanted to be interviewed, he said to us he didn’t see the point of doing another interview with the police.“He kept cutting us short when we were trying to ask him to do a witness interview with us. We pressed the issue, but again he didn’t want to do the interview with us.“He said he wasn’t feeling well, he said he couldn’t be bothered. He seemed non-committal with us.“Stewart said he felt officers made him feel uncomfortable, that they were asking questions he should know the answers to but that he didn’t know the answers.“Towards the end we put him at ease slightly, but he didn’t agree to be interviewed on that particular day.”

“We tried to make alternative arrangements [for an interview] so we suggested he got a good night’s sleep and that we could come the next day.“Stewart took me by shock on a couple of occasions, as he snapped at me when I pushed to do the interview with him.“I told him it was really important, that his excuses of being ill weren’t good enough, and we needed to obtain this information to find his fiance who was missing.“He was slouched in the chair. Eye contact was limited, he felt uneasy in our presence.“He appeared anxious, he didn’t want us there.”

“Stewart told us he would see us the following day. So we went to his house, where a search was being carried out of the house.
“He was really anxious, pacing around, quite stressed out, speaking quickly, saying he didn’t know these people were going to be there today.“He said he wouldn’t be able to be interviewed that day due to what was happening in the house. He appeared to be quite upset at the search which was being conducted, with a police dog.“He was restless, packing round the house, asking what they were doing.“He continued to look out onto the back garden whilst officers were searching.“There was conversation about potential sightings of Helen in the media.“DC Lockwood spoke to Stewart and we said we would call him after the search team had left.
“We asked him what his concerns and worries were - he was referring to things being broken in the house.“He said he was worried about ornaments being broken. He was asked if he wanted someone with him so that he could be calmer.”

“We left, but later on there was another suggestion there was a sighting of Helen in Royston, and we returned to the house to speak with him about this. We phoned Stewart, told him we were on our way, and when we arrived he was much calmer.

“We asked him about a CCTV image of a woman in a station, and he said ‘I don’t even need to put my glasses on, I can tell you straight away it’s not her’.“Then he said he was tired and needed to sleep. We asked if we could do a formal interview with him.“He appeared so much calmer then. This was after the search officers had left. He reiterated that he already told police what he knew.

“He’d sigh and tut about the fact we were asking for all this, and said he would have to think about it and needed to get some sleep.“The idea was we’d return at 4pm and take a formal account, he was OK with this.“At 4.15pm on April 22 we attended and set up the recording equipment. When he came into the study and found the cameras all set up he was really not happy. “He said ‘I do not like this at all’ as he studied the equipment. Eventually he was prepared to do it.”

( my bolds just to break up the text)

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/helen-bailey-murder-trial-case-12475974

 

[Duchy]

Just read all the interesting posts since I stopped looking yesterday evening, and am reflecting on the fact that while I was in and could have followed closely on Thursday and Friday when nothing happened, today I'm going to be out a lot and will be snatching a look in between (being a PC user and thus not connected when I'm out and about).
But I am on tenterhooks to know what happens and wondering whether anyone from here will be able to attend court today? If anything stops it today we'll all explode...

I'm kind of in the same boat Moll. I wasn't at work last Thursday and Friday but was on night duty last night and am again tonight. I will probably fall asleep with the corner of my chromebook stuck up my right nostril.

 

[Tortoise]

For Helen and Boris.

 

[cottonweaver]

The interview time is 4.40pm and the date is Friday April 22, 2016.
The video interview is expected to last two hours.in the video interview, Stewart says Helen was last seen on April 11, 2016.

“I remember bits of it. Helen loaded my car with a large duvet and some boxes to be sent to the dump. “Then she was in her office for a while, I went back to bed. She went out in the car to get some milk but came back almost instantly. She was upset with something that had happened and she said she was never going to drive again.“I phoned up and rearranged my doctor’s appointment. Helen said ‘If possible, make it this afternoon and then you can take stuff to the solicitors at the same time’.“I dashed out because I was late. I realised I’d only taken half of the solicitors papers, so I rushed back, saw the other paperwork on the side.
“Then I went back to the solicitors and came home. Helen wasn’t here, then I thought she had gone to Broadstairs.“I remember thinking ‘she really has gone’.“I sent her a text. I woke up and I was in pain. I was sleeping quite a lot at this point. I know there’s a big chunk missing out of that [explanation].”“A note from Helen said ‘I’m going to Broadstairs. Don’t contact me in any way. Love you more, LB’.“The note was written on plain white A4 paper. I don’t remember the handwriting.”

Stewart also explained that on the day of Helen’s disappearance, he disposed of a blood stained duvet which Ms Bailey had loaded into the car.“It had blood on it from this wound”, he said, pointing to his side.
The court has previously heard how ‘LB’ was a nickname Helen Bailey used. Stewart is asked to describe how Helen was at the point. “she came back in the car and said she was never driving again.”“She was frustrated with herself, there were no tears or anything, she was just upset with herself. Something had gone wrong and she wasn’t happy.”
“When I woke up in my chair, in my study, I don’t remember anything different in the house. I’ve got this memory of saying goodbye to her. “I’m trying to remember back. [On April 11] I don’t remember driving anywhere, I don’t remember going to the dump, or the doctors. I do remember going up the stairs to the solicitors.

“I can’t remember the sequence of events at all. I went to the doctors, and I went to the solicitors. Maybe I did [went to] the dump. Maybe I did that the next day.“I honestly don’t remember, I’ve tried.” Stewart is now being asked about the dump.He said: “All I remember is carefully wrapping the duvet up and making sure it didn’t become unwrapped before carrying it up the steps [to the dump].
“Getting rid of boxes and packaging was a regular occurrence. I know the duvet goes in the general waste part of the dump, the one that’s not recyclable. I’ve taken three or four duvets there before.“I know it’s the first one straight in front of you as you pull in [to the dump].”

The court is still hearing tapes of Stewart’s police interview.
“I changed my doctor’s appointment to 3pm. You can check if you want. I do know the solicitors was last [on the day].“When I came back from the solicitors I remember thinking Helen went dog walking with her neighbour, with one of the neighbours. “I think I took all the stuff to the dump the next day, because when I came back I thought ‘Oh Helen’s back, because the gates are open and the gardener’s here.”
Stewart is asked what happened to the note that Helen allegedly left before her disappearance.“I thought I must have put the note in with the boxes and other bits and pieces. I couldn’t think where else it could’ve gone.”

“That evening, I did go watch my son play bowls. I remember coming back and we had a Chinese between us.”When asked if Helen is a private person, he says: “If something goes wrong she’s private.”When asked by police about his clothing on the day of Helen’s alleged disappearance, he said: “I don’t remember what I was wearing. No idea. If you’d asked me nearer the time….” “I remember being frustrated with Helen that she had gone off. I do remember that.“On the way back from bowls I picked a Chinese up, thinking Helen could have some if she was here [home], as well.“It was getting quite late, I did hope Helen would be back. Helen knew I was going to go there, we discussed it.“I don’t remember how I paid for the Chinese takeaway. “I do remember going round the house looking for Helen. I went to bed, thinking Helen hadn’t come back.“I remember being cross with myself for texting Helen, because she’d asked to be left alone. I didn’t get much sleep that night [due to my operation].”*

“The last time I saw Helen, for definite now, was when she asked me to change my doctor’s appointment if possible to the afternoon.“I don’t remember what [room of the house] we were in, that’s the honest answer.”Stewart said he couldn’t remember what Helen was wearing on the day of her disappearance. The note [Helen left] was handwriting, it wasn’t typed. I thought it was Helen’s. And she signed the note, no one else would have signed it like that.“LB is a nickname I had for Helen, my nickname is BB. It’s going back to when we first met. She was little bean and I was big bean.”
Stewart can be seen visibly emotional in the dock as the video of his interview is played to jurors. He can be seen wiping his eyes and looking tearful. “I don’t remember any of those drives [on the day Helen allegedly disappeared] and that worries me.“I haven’t suffered with memory loss before. I’m taking a lot of medication at the moment.“My main GP is in Bassingbourn. Stewart is asked about the text he sent Helen.“When I sent her a text that night [April 11] it was a ‘I’m still here’ kind of thing, I wanted to reassure her.“At 10.10pm, I sent her a text with ‘’ like three kisses.”

“Are we done then? Because it’s getting late and I’m hungry” Stewart asks police half way through the two hour interview.
“Helen could be gone from 8am in the morning until 10pm at night, but I’d know where she was. She hasn’t gone missing before.”

Stewart is now being asked to describe Helen as a person, what makes her tick, what does she like doing.“When she’s into projects, she’s into it and that’s it. In her mind she has it all played out. “She was feeling good about the wedding. It was the venue mainly, we had a photographer. “The venue went wrong. The week before April 11, we looked at a venue hall. It was stunning, we thought it was beyond us in terms of money. It was beautiful, you just had to see it to believe it.“But when we were sat there, we found out that the only date we could get is if someone cancelled. “We planned to get married on September 23 (2016). We’d been engaged for a while but not everyone knew. “My mum and dad didn’t know - they knew we were engaged but they only found out we were getting married through interviews for Helen’s book.”Stewart says Helen was frustrated. “The day after we were told the September 23 was available, we found an article in the paper that the venue was going to take some furniture away.“The venue said they would replace some of it - but the chandeliers, the mirrors and the beds, they were special, you had to see it to believe it. “The venue was for the wedding and the reception.”

Stewart is asked to describe Helen’s usual day. “Her normal day is breakfast, go on Facebook, blogging, taking Boris for a walk, and that’s about it. It’s a fairly relaxed lifestyle at the moment.”
He is asked how Helen copes talking about grief and loss.“She was OK, her blog Planet Grief was just for her. Then she showed it to a couple of friends, who said it was good. “It wasn’t meant to be a blog. Then other people started to contribute.
“She knew she didn’t want to do children’s books anymore, and she didn’t want to do this sort of personal book [When Bad Things Happen in Good Bikinis]. “She was too honest, it [the book] was much, much too personal.”
Stewart is now asked about Helen’s worries in life.“That she couldn’t drive. She liked things planned, if my mum and dad just turned up she would get panicky.“She could talk to anyone at any level. The trouble is everyone ends up thinking they’re her best friend, but these were just people she’s met.”
Stewart is asked to tell police the names of Helen’s close friends. He is asked who out of her friends she would confide in, to which Stewart gives the name of Tracey Stratton.He is then asked about Helen’s family.

Stewart is asked about any confrontations Helen had in the family and so on.“The biggest confrontation we’ve had is with the neighbour soon after we moved in. “Helen has got cross with Oliver a few times, I can’t remember what happened to be honest.“The next day Oliver apologised though.”
He is asked about Helen’s mental and physical health.“She is very very anxious” he says, and goes to pick up a self help type book from the living room shelf, before handing this to police.“The self help book keeps Helen on track. She knows she gets over-anxious over little things.”

What is the trigger for Helen walking out that door? Police ask Stewart. He replies: “Too much has happened this year, we’ve got the wedding we’ve got me being ill, her dad being ill, my mum being ill, the car. “The conservatory is coming down. The planners drew it wrong, now we’ve decided to do it next year.“There’s a lot going on in Helen’s life, without doing any work this is. We are slowly doing the garden and then we want to decorate the upstairs.“She was getting more anxious, I said to her about going to the doctors and she said no.“Nothing like this has happened before.
“[If she went] Helen would take Boris the dog with her, I think she has taken a holdall type bag. One of the sets of keys is missing, it has four keys on.”

Police ask Stewart what places are special to Helen that she might visit. “London, anywhere near the Thames. She loves London. She loves Broadstairs, and also Northumberland, which is where she’s from.”
Police ask Stewart about Helen’s access to cash.“She’s got a savings account, we’ve got a joint account.“She thinks she doesn’t have enough money. She likes to know the money is there.”
Stewart said Helen had ‘at least two iPhones and two iPads’. “She is almost like a teenager, she loves social media”, he said
Stewart said there were no arguments between him and Helen on the day of her alleged disappearance, or in the days beforehand.He said there had never been any physical arguments between the two of them.

Is there anything that makes you suspect there could be a third party involved in Helen’s disappearance? Police ask Stewart. “Someone mentioned kidnapping, she has got enough money to be a target I guess, but not many people would know that.”
Police then ask about another interview.
That’s the end of the video interview.

bolds are only to break up the text.

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/incoming/helen-bailey-murder-trial-case-12475974

there's a 2nd video interview as well on May 4th, will see if I can find a separate link for that one.

Links to sons' testimony about the 11th and the preceding weekend are here

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...yston-11-April-2016-4&p=13111429#post13111429

 

[mrjitty]

I’ve got this memory of saying goodbye to her.

In other words, not an experiential memory.

 

[cottonweaver]

Francis of Assisi quote ( snipped)

For Helen and Boris.

That's so very fitting Tortoise. And moving. Hope her family can hold on to thoughts like that.

 

[Tortoise]

It had blood on it from this wound”, he said, pointing to his side.

The mysterious case of the sliding belly button.

:facepalm:

 

[cottonweaver]

On May 4 was when the second interview took place.” 2hrs long.

He is asked if Helen’s iPhone 6 connected to the BMW car. He said yes, he thinks it did.

Stewart is asked if there are any changes in his life, Helen’s life, or the household at the moment.
“Not that I’ve already told you. I haven’t argued with her, she hasn’t argued with the boys, nor the cleaner or the gardener.
“The only thing that was getting to her was the wedding”, he said

In the video interview, Stewart is asked about what he did on the weekend before Helen went missing.
“It’s very sketchy, on the Saturday or Sunday was the first time I went for a drive after my operation. Jamie came with me and we went in the Jeep.
“I can’t remember where we went, we might have just gone to get some dog food or something.
“[Helen and I] would have got up, had breakfast, then walked the dog.
“Then we would have come home. We would have had lunch together, but I don’t particularly remember what we had.
“I have no recollection of that at all, but we must have had it.”

Daines:He is now asked about Facebook accounts.
He said Helen had her own Facebook account and no-one else would access that. Stewart is first asked about mobile phones - he says Helen has an iPhone 6. He is asked whether they would use each others phones, and answers: “occasionally I would swap”.He said he didn’t swap phones with Helen on April 11, 2016.He said he couldn’t remember when he last saw Helen’s phone, but that he hasn’t seen it since she was missing.

Stewart is then asked about any new visitors to the house he would like to tell police about.
:“No-one springs to mind at all no. We’ve got the new man who’s come to design the conservatory. I’d have to look up his name, I can’t remember it even though I’ve met him three times”, he answers.....

“Because when I asked Helen to marry me which was three and a half years ago, she didn’t want to tell anyone. “She didn’t want to go through another engagement thing, she just wanted another wedding.
“I asked her marry me about a year after she lost her husband.”
He said Helen and one of her former husband’s children were “on very bad terms” because “Helen was the other woman”......He moves away from the camera screen and tells the person on the other side of the phone that he’ll have to move to the dining room as there is ‘poor reception’.....“She talked in the future about us moving back to London. She missed the idea of living in London....“She was stressed about the conservatory, her dad’s health, my mum’s health, my health, her friend who has had lots of problems selling her house, she’s worried about Jamie because he doesn’t have a girlfriend, Oliver because he’s out too much, the car.”

Daines said when Stewart was asked if he would do a third interview, he told officers that he would only be repeating himself. “Me and my colleague both felt he was not mentally or psychically fit to continue to provide an interview at that time,” she said.

 

[Alyce]

is that in Royston ? in which case it looks like she had the utility room ( as was ) for her office ?

 

[Tortoise]

When I came back from the solicitors I remember thinking Helen went dog walking with her neighbour, with one of the neighbours.

If this was a true memory he would have said 'our' neighbour not 'her' neighbour. Mistakes show deception.

 

[cottonweaver]

I'd have to compare the kitchen flooring etc Alyce - I assumed it was at a previous home?


photo is from here, but unclear
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...me-fuelling-theory-vanished-deliberately.html

 

[mrjitty]

Wouldn't you just wash the duvet?

I have young kids and down the years they have puked on just about everything you can think of and especially their duvets and ours.

You don't throw away 100s of quid worth of duvet over a blood stain?

 

[Tortoise]

And she signed the note, no one else would have signed it like that.“LB is a nickname I had for Helen, my nickname is BB. It’s going back to when we first met. She was little bean and I was big bean.”

Quite amazing that he's using past tense for Helen when he doesn't know she's dead.

 

[mrjitty]

It's interesting he does not remember the Sunday.

Why is that?