GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

[hunkerdown]

If this wasn't such a desperately tragic case it would be farcical comedy gold.


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[Alyce]

The day Helen disappeared

Stewart is now asked about April 11, the day Helen disappeared.

At 8.02am, the alarm in the house is disarmed by Jamie Stewart, the defendant’s son.

There are various searches made on Helen’s iPad, including one for Nottingham Trent University.


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so the alarm is deactivated at 8.02 - Jamie's evidence said 7.30am

 

[jessie]

Must have been that bang on the back of the head in prison...


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Do you think he's hoping to plead insanity after all this flipping load of tosh ?

 

[hunkerdown]

Do you think he's hoping to plead insanity after all this flipping load of tosh ?

I think he's told this story to himself so many times over the last 6-8 months he's actually starting to believe it!


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[neteditor]

Joe's friend called Nick'

Stewart: “While we were doing that Joe and another man came round the side of the house and approached us.

“Joe introduced him as a friend called Nick, that was it.

“Nick was about 56, he was slightly taller than me, he had black hair, he was a big man, he had tattoos down his neck.

“He was white. Nick introduced himself and shook hands with us.

“He had an accent.”


got through the still broken gate no doubt

ABOUT 56? Bit specific?

 

[Alyce]

Call from the home landline

Stewart: “Helen was half considering doing a degree course the following year”.

At 9.04am there was a call from the home landline to the solicitors, the jurors are told. Stewart said Helen made this call.

Stewart: “Our mobiles were all on the EE network.”

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[Joely 123]

Weird he's suddenly got his memory back. No mention of a bad memory here...


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Except his lies are tripping him up .. he drove for the first time on Saturday 9th April - and again for the first time on Sunday. Otherwise he is presenting lying detail so 'exactly' - not one of us would remember to the letter everything he has pretended to do today.

 

[Squamous]

Will the prosecution have known that this of unbelievable hogwash was coming? I quite envy Mr Trimmer. It's going to be hard for him to know where to start!

 

[Florrie]

If it wasn't so awful the jury would be pissing themselves with laughter. "The nasty foreigners were the ones wot dun it. Or something like that....and they knew about the cesspit."

To be honest he has no option but to try and lie his way out of this because he's mentioned "Jose and Nico" with their "forrin" accents so he has to give what he thinks is a believable account . The fact that everyone in the court including the defence team will be stifling laughter will completely pass him by.

How can anyone (even his own sons) swallow this? Then again they have probably been manipulated by him for years. He is a master manipulator but as today is showing he is nowhere near as clever as he thinks.


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[hunkerdown]

ABOUT 56? Bit specific?

Same age as himself - easy to remember when you're lying...


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[wolfcub]

Jesus, this might be factual, he really might have asked her to help, possibly while she was drugged and then just pushed her in.

Yes, can't push this thought away either - what the heck - who would open up a cesspit instead of calling out the professionals? And as for 'always with the help of Helen' - ??!! As though this was something they did frequently? What, with her phobia about sewage? If this did happen, it may well have happened just the once, when he pushed her in, or perhaps twice at most- the first time being the practice one. Can't believe he is actually stupid enough to have admitted going anywhere near the cesspit himself - with a crowbar (and Helen) - unless there were witnesses, there was no need to say this and it just makes what happened look more probable. The thought is also quite dreadful, it would be just like him to make Helen participate in her own death - I swear he gets some sort of warped psychopathic joy out of the irony of it.

 

[icemaiden65]

ABOUT 56? Bit specific?

Not really, he handed over his Birth Certificate to IS as proof of identity upon introduction! And those gates are electrically operated from the estate agents details, surely you wouldn't just leave a broken gate for anyone to wander in? I call utter cowpoo!

 

[Alyce]

Did you come downstairs with murderous intent?"

Between 9.10am and 9.28am, there are other searches on Helen’s iPad relating to the dog and Brocket Hall.

Stewart said Boris was usually walked by both him and Helen after breakfast.

“On this particular morning, I’m 99 per cent sure Boris didn’t get a walk.

“I was in bed until a bit later, I came back downstairs.”

Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “Did you come downstairs with murderous intent, intending to kill Helen or cause her serious harm?”

Stewart: “No”.



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[Squamous]

Same age as himself - easy to remember when you're lying...


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I do wonder if he said "about my age" which was clarified to be 56. Still, it's mad.

 

[ZaZara]

Horrible smell coming out of the drains"

Stewart: “The next time I saw Joe was in February/March on the second visit.

“Helen and I checked the cess pit levels just after Christmas.

“We then went down a bit later because there was a horrible smell coming out of the drains.

“We suspected it was blocked, so we looked in the garage.

“We opened up the cess pit and were looking down, the level was fine and there didn’t seem to be a blockage.

“We said we’d see if it clears.”


just cant keep away from the ol cess pit can he - seems to be there every 5 minutes

BBM


Horrible smells do not come out of drains unless the water seal (U-bend trap) located under a sink or a drain in the floor has dried out.
This may happen if the sink (shower, bath etc) has not been in use for quite a while.
The remedy is to let some water in. A pint will do the trick.

 

[Alyce]

Chloe Keedy ‏@ChloeKeedyITV 41s42 seconds ago

Describes Joe as 'about 65, same height as me, olive skin, sunken cheeks, grey hair, smart, had a foreign accent of some sort

 

[Florrie]

Honestly...if you're going to lie then the first rule is to keep it simple. He's given the prosecution masses of detail....bet Mr Trimmer is just itching to get to work on this hogwash. He will be rubbing his hands together with glee and wondering where to start.

Meanwhile the defence team will be crying into their cocoa this evening but reflecting upon the fact that despite everything they will still get paid.


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[Alyce]

Did you creep up behind her on her iPad?"

Between 10.14am and 10.45am, there are more iPad searches, another one on Brocket Hall.

At 10.58am, the last search on Helen’s iPad relates to wedding planners on Twitter, the court is told.

Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “That’s when the internet activity stops, did you kill her at that time?”

Stewart: “No”.

“Did you creep up behind her on her iPad and smother her? Did you put a pillow on top of her, wrap her in a duvet and drag her down to the cess pit?”

Stewart: “No”.

Mr Russell Flint: “Did you do anything to harm her at all?”

Stewart: “No”.



http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-trial-partner-ian-12573132

 

[Alyce]

Royston rubbish tip

Photos of Stewart at the Royston rubbish tip are being shown to him.

In one photo the boot of his car is open, showing some cardboard boxes.

Another photo shows Stewart carrying the boxes.

Stewart: “They were just empty boxes.”


http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-trial-partner-ian-12573132

 

[icemaiden65]

If it wasn't so awful the jury would be pissing themselves with laughter. "The nasty foreigners were the ones wot dun it. Or something like that....and they knew about the cesspit."

To be honest he has no option but to try and lie his way out of this because he's mentioned "Jose and Nico" with their "forrin" accents so he has to give what he thinks is a believable account . The fact that everyone in the court including the defence team will be stifling laughter will completely pass him by.

How can anyone (even his own sons) swallow this? Then again they have probably been manipulated by him for years. He is a master manipulator but as today is showing he is nowhere near as clever as he thinks.


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I'm surprised he isn't frothing at the mouth to be honest!