GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

[snoopydog]

Why does he keep saying this? He didn't have cancer. He had a cancer scare that turned out to be a false alarm. Anyone who's had a similar scare will know that don't diagnose you or tell you you have cancer unless you actually have it.

Exactly and where on earth he got the 3 months to a year to live crap from...... if he had been diagnosed with stage 4 bowel cancer maybe but not this.


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[MillyM]

12:58
"Did you ever open the cess pit?"

Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “Did you ever open up that cess pit on your own?”

Stewart: “Never, no. The first time I saw it open was when the tanker driver came to empty it for the first time a year after we’d been in the house. This was about April 2015.”

 

[neteditor]

Ha, a lovely new mop arrived here just now from Amazon (amazing what you can buy from them!) - she can have it to shove where the sun don't shine - with my love!

So jealous of your exciting and glam life

 

[cottonweaver]

“We had it emptied every year. Helen had a major sewage problem in her house in Highgate.
“There ended up being sewage right outside her back door. Helen had a phobia of sewage.

I can't stomach much more of this horrendous character

 

[snoopydog]

12:18
"There were no arguments"

“When I get home after hospital, me and Helen had no arguments, there were stresses and strains because we were waiting for the biopsy results.

“This didn’t lead to any disputes or anything, it was the exact opposite in fact.”

I believe the doctors could have told him after the operation it was probably not cancer but they would have to wait for results. When using a camera inside someone they'd be able to see it was scar tissue and not cancer. My man died of bowel cancer and this just seems a bit over dramatised for me.


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[Squamous]

Yes, let's not forget that he MADE A PROFIT on that first MG. A key point of his evidence yesterday.

Of course Helen hated sewage, who doesn't?! I can't believe the gall of this man.

And I agree that if Helen was a Mac girl, she was a Mac girl.

 

[MillyM]

12:59
"It was a very heavy and unusual manhole cover"

“I explained to the tanker driver what the situation was.

“He came, saw where it was, and got the lid up.

“He had a crowbar and a screwdriver to do it. He said it was a very heavy and unusual manhole cover.”

 

[jessie]

12:43
"I assume Helen did this [changed the standing order]"

Stewart: “I assume Helen did this [changed the standing order], she was the only person at home.

“I don’t understand why she’d amend a standing order. I can understand the £4,000 amount in some way, the £4,000 she’d allocated on spending on a spare room.

“She was talking about putting this in the joint account.

“I’m not a great user of Barclays bank, but I do have a Barclays account.”

But this wasn't a one-off deposit of £4000 to refurbish a room, this was a Standing Order - Monthly - of £4000. He truley believes his own lies doesn't he, and expects everyone else to believe them also.

I am tearing my hair out here, sorry.

 

[Squamous]

12:59
"It was a very heavy and unusual manhole cover"

“I explained to the tanker driver what the situation was.

“He came, saw where it was, and got the lid up.

“He had a crowbar and a screwdriver to do it. He said it was a very heavy and unusual manhole cover.”

I'm sure he did. I'm sure he spent hours waxing lyrical about how it would be near impossible for anyone else to lift.

The septic tank amnesia seems to have lifted, anyway!

 

[Alyce]

12:54
"A good place to hide a body"

“I remember John Bailey being there [at the house] and showing him round the house, but I don’t remember Helen making the comment about the cess pit being a good place to hide a body.

“A similar comment was made to us about it from the previous owner, that the cess pit was a good place to hide a body, so it does make sense what John said in his evidence.”

He really is working hard on his rewrites isnt he. He's realised that he cant deny all knowledge of the cess pit any more. He could just about wing it with JBs evidence and him not remembering, but realises he's also got the previous owner's evidence and the cess pit cleaner man to contend with .

 

[perfectvirgo]

He's been looking on here I strongly suspect. OR, nipping round to Dolly's for a cup of tea?

A legal clerk from within his defence team may well be reading here. In fact both sides probably are. The jury is a fairly random collection of ages, intelligence and bias and may not pick up on the subtle implications of exam and cross exam. We here are a barrister's delight in that we choose to be here and indeed are attracted here through the opportunity to exercise an inquiring mind and to examine details in the pursuit of truth. Gems unearthed in these pages could definitely be used to inform questioning in court.

 

[ColourPurple]

I can't stomach much more of this horrendous character

He is beyond vile. She had a phobia of sewage so he disposed of her body in it. No words...

 

[jessie]

12:53
"Helen had a phobia of sewage"

“It was £120 a year to get rid of your sewage.

“We had it emptied every year. Helen had a major sewage problem in her house in Highgate.

“There ended up being sewage right outside her back door. Helen had a phobia of sewage.”

Sorry, I think I am now going to be sick. How could he, HOW COULD HE.

 

[cottonweaver]

He sure is Alyce. He's making me feel quite ill. Going to get that brandy!.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Kate Bradbrook ‏@katebradbrook 5m5 minutes ago

#helenbailey Defendant Ian Stewart tells jury he never took sleeping pills prescribed to him as Helen had taken them from him


#helenbailey IS tells court HB googled zopiclone and found not suitable for IS medical condition..said she might take herself


#helenbailey Ian Stewart asked if he administered zopiclone to HB surreptitiously in any way at any time? IS replies "no

Aha, so that's his story. We know Helen didn't like taking prescription medicine yet it was found in her hair samples which proved she'd been ingesting it for months, she couldn't understand why she'd falling asleep all the time, slept for 5 hours after a good night's sleep ... My blood pressure is rising.

 

[MillyM]

13:03
'Helen helped me open the cess pit'

“I opened the cess pit in his absence. He told me to be very careful, I opened it up always with the help of Helen.

“Helen could get one side of it up, and I used a crowbar to kind of flip it.

 

[ColourPurple]

12:59
"It was a very heavy and unusual manhole cover"

“I explained to the tanker driver what the situation was.

“He came, saw where it was, and got the lid up.

“He had a crowbar and a screwdriver to do it. He said it was a very heavy and unusual manhole cover.”

So IS knew exactly what was needed to open it then!

 

[icemaiden65]

So jealous of your exciting and glam life

It gets worse, the old mop broke in two when I was cleaning up a smashed bottle of white wine which leapt out of the fridge door shelf and created one almighty mess! But you'll be delighted to know that the champagne merely wobbled, gave a sheepish grin and stayed put!

 

[MillyM]

13:04
"I last opened it last year around February"

Stewart: “Between us we slid it backwards. “I did this roughly six months after they had been. Helen was concerned about this.

“The previous owner had made a flippant comment about emptying it every three years.

“Helen didn’t wanted the sewage to flood out.

“I last opened it last year around February.”

 

[snoopydog]

12:26
The will: “At one stage it was 70 per cent left to me and 30 per cent left to John Bailey"

“She knew that Tony Hurley (her financial advisor) could do what he likes. She couldn’t understand why she ended up with this sort of will.

“If Tony died, I still don’t know what would have happened [to her will].

“It was her concern that I would be looked after, she couldn’t get it in her head that I didn’t need the money. “At one stage it was 70 per cent left to me and 30 per cent left to John Bailey (Helen’s brother).”

HAHAHAHAHAHA note concern about tony dying there.... also him saying helen was obviously going on about him being skint!


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