GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

[JudgeJudi]

Do you think he's hoping to plead insanity after all this flipping load of tosh ?

That ship has sailed. He's already pleaded not guilty.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Will the prosecution have known that this of unbelievable hogwash was coming? I quite envy Mr Trimmer. It's going to be hard for him to know where to start!

This will be the first time Trimmer hears this. I suspect he's putting in a lot of hours in chambers once he leaves court.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Did you come downstairs with murderous intent?"

Between 9.10am and 9.28am, there are other searches on Helen’s iPad relating to the dog and Brocket Hall.

Stewart said Boris was usually walked by both him and Helen after breakfast.

“On this particular morning, I’m 99 per cent sure Boris didn’t get a walk.

“I was in bed until a bit later, I came back downstairs.”

Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “Did you come downstairs with murderous intent, intending to kill Helen or cause her serious harm?”

Stewart: “No”.



http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-trial-partner-ian-12573132

Psychiatric nurse Gill Currey said she saw Stewart at his house on May 18, adding: “He said he could clearly remember on that day, that Helen walked down the lane with the dog, and he assumed she was going to Broadstairs. He said she didn’t appear to have any bags with her.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/alleged-killer-royston-author-helen-12565481

Oh what a tangled web ...

 

[JudgeJudi]

Royston rubbish tip

Photos of Stewart at the Royston rubbish tip are being shown to him.

In one photo the boot of his car is open, showing some cardboard boxes.

Another photo shows Stewart carrying the boxes.

Stewart: “They were just empty boxes.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-trial-partner-ian-12573132

DC McColl attended in response to the missing person report.

"Stewart said he could have left the note from Helen on the table and could have taken it to the dump as he had recently got rid of a lot of rubbish".

Why would you take empty boxes to the dump when they could have been flattened and placed in the recycling bin?

 

[Milenalee]

Still searching for where I found Helen talking about her aversion to prescription medicine, I re-read this post from her blog others have mentioned on here. So ironic.....according to Ian they were already seeing each other...

"In a funny way, I’m thankful to them both, but particularly Media Man, because he reminded me that however a man might look on the outside, it doesn’t mean that they are as respectful as my husband was, and that however savvy you think you are, however much you think you are in control, often you’re not. Because Media Man stepped over the line in a crowded London bar his behaviour didn’t shock me, it made me laugh with the sheer crassness of it all. But had it happened in a flat or a dark street, I might not be laughing now. I had a lucky escape in my room at college when I was eighteen. It was the first and only time I ever met a seriously sleazy man who forced himself on me. Since then I was not only lucky, but blessed by spending time with wonderful men who I trusted, but Media Man gave me a sharp wake up that sleazebags are out there and that sometimes they are disguised as charming men who look good in a smart jacket.

As we left the bar, Big Bird, a woman I would trust with my life and who has been my Angel in a J Cup for years said to me, “You’re more vulnerable than you think, you know.”

Ladies, if you only remember one rule about dating or even just living this new life on Planet Grief, it is this: Stay safe.

Promise me."






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[Florrie]

Psychiatric nurse Gill Currey said she saw Stewart at his house on May 18, adding: “He said he could clearly remember on that day, that Helen walked down the lane with the dog, and he assumed she was going to Broadstairs. He said she didn’t appear to have any bags with her.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/alleged-killer-royston-author-helen-12565481

Oh what a tangled web ...

What a tangled web indeed, yes he has fallen into the trap of all liars. He's made it waaay too complex.

As Dolly has already said....one BIG hole.

Defence have more or less handed him a spade and said "off you go?"





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[JudgeJudi]

Had to go to work, but what an afternoon!

Have we found out what the GGHW stands for? Did he mean GCHQ? Or wad old Joe or IS a bit of a gamer?!
https://minecraft-statistic.net/en/player/gghw.html

Gorgeous Grey Haired Widower

 

[cottonweaver]

Just noticed his videos are uploaded from an Android phone. He didn't say he had an iphone did he?

here you go chuck

July 11 arrest

"constable Susanne Seagrave:“It appeared to me that Stewart was concerned about the garage door being slightly open.“It was open, yes. He made no other comments about any other insecure parts of the house.”*she seized an iPhone from Stewart."

 

[MillyM]

Quote Originally Posted by Pips
"The police also confirmed that the sons have solid alibis."

Confirmed to who?

Anyone know about this? We have heard nothing in court about the sons 'solid alibis' and doubt police would have relayed this to just anyone. And even if they have 'solid alibis' for April 11 - though we still have JS's unaccounted for extra long period of time from leaving bowls to arriving home - I don't know how they managed to go for all those months around their father without having the remotest suspicion. Was IS really that good an actor?

 

[MillyM]

Gorgeous Grey Haired Widower

Cheers! Got that on previous posts as was just the original reporting that threw me. How she ever thought him 'gorgeous' though...each to their own, I suppose.

 

[MillyM]

What a tangled web indeed, yes he has fallen into the trap of all liars. He's made it waaay too complex.

As Dolly has already said....one BIG hole.

Defence have more or less handed him a spade and said "off you go?"

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Exactly.

And that is how the guilty always get found out in their lies, as instead of employing KISS - Keep it simple, stupid - they start embellishing their story. Prime example was Stuart Hazell who killed Tia Sharp. As soon as he started going into all those minor details about him vacuuming here and there, phones charging etc in his TV appearance, you just knew it sounded all wrong.

 

[neteditor]

If possible, please ask him if he happened to notice the people on the jury's faces while Ian Stewart was testifying? And if anyone here is attending for the rest of his testimony, I understand you might be focussed on him, but can you please bear this question in mind tomorrow, too.

I thought I had posted this last night but I can't find it now... OBF said he thought he saw a couple of the jurors smirking when Is told the story of the punch.

And his own defence QC groaned when he messed up the Monday morning events.

 

[Florrie]

Quote Originally Posted by Pips
"The police also confirmed that the sons have solid alibis."



Anyone know about this? We have heard nothing in court about the sons 'solid alibis' and doubt police would have relayed this to just anyone. And even if they have 'solid alibis' for April 11 - though we still have JS's unaccounted for extra long period of time from leaving bowls to arriving home - I don't know how they managed to go for all those months around their father without having the remotest suspicion. Was IS really that good an actor?

I think this man has been manipulating people all his adult life and that includes manipulation of his sons.

I would say that the police have a pretty good idea of the time frame during which Helen was murdered. They will have gone over what the sons said with a fine toothcomb...it seems both were at work and that can obviously be verified.

It seems IS has been manipulating those around him for years. Just look at the fact that the Press cannot find anyone who has known him before this who has anything bad to say. I think he has been a very good actor indeed.

I am sure that deep down his sons must have wondered...even fleetingly about what had happened. But the thought that their only surviving parent could have done something so awful must have been so scary that they will have put it out of their heads I am sure.


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[snoopydog]

Quote Originally Posted by Pips
"The police also confirmed that the sons have solid alibis."



Anyone know about this? We have heard nothing in court about the sons 'solid alibis' and doubt police would have relayed this to just anyone. And even if they have 'solid alibis' for April 11 - though we still have JS's unaccounted for extra long period of time from leaving bowls to arriving home - I don't know how they managed to go for all those months around their father without having the remotest suspicion. Was IS really that good an actor?

Pips was friends with helen and said she knows stuff that can't be said till after he is convicted. I'm assuming this is part of that.


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[MillyM]

It seems IS has been manipulating those around him for years. Just look at the fact that the Press cannot find anyone who has known him before this who has anything bad to say. I think he has been a very good actor indeed.

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Yes, that is curious. All round nice guy for 50-odd years - then goes to the extreme. Unless there is more we have not been told, of course.

 

[cottonweaver]

Pips was friends with helen and said she knows stuff that can't be said till after he is convicted. I'm assuming this is part of that.


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morning snoopy, yes , I just refreshed my memory with first post.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...yston-11-April-2016-1&p=13059823#post13059823

I do believe that the press will get hold of some people who have actually met IS. There will be some dates that speak to the press.
Is this right he was a member of
-Merry Widows
-Widowed and Young
-and thirdly. a bereavement FB group.

We heard from one widow that he met, although it didn't lead anywhere- maybe week 3 of trial - nothing out of the ordinary.
( Maybe she didn't pass the financial run-down? Seriously, IDK, maybe she was too polite in court to say he had bored her to tears. )

 

[neteditor]

Line of the day for me -

[FONT=&amp]"Stewart breaks down in the witness stand as he said: “It was a way of continuing the love from Diane on to Helen."

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As we say in Scotland... BOAK

:sick:

 

[snoopydog]

morning snoopy, yes , I just refreshed my memory with first post.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/sh...yston-11-April-2016-1&p=13059823#post13059823

I do believe that the press will get hold of some people who have actually met IS. There will be some dates that speak to the press.
Is this right he was a member of
-Merry Widows
-Widowed and Young
-and thirdly. a bereavement FB group.

We heard from one widow that he met, although it didn't lead anywhere- maybe week 3 of trial - nothing out of the ordinary.
( Maybe she didn't pass the financial run-down? Seriously, IDK, maybe she was too polite in court to say he had bored her to tears. )

Morning! Yeah the fb group im in we were all told not to talk about it in the group from the beginning in case anything anyone said affected the trial. Not that it would have mind you.... I used to be in way but they kick you when you stop paying so not been in that group for a good while...


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[cottonweaver]

Morning! Yeah the fb group im in we were all told not to talk about it in the group from the beginning in case anything anyone said affected the trial. Not that it would have mind you.... I used to be in way but they kick you when you stop paying so not been in that group for a good while...


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Maybe then, if he was in 3 groups he will have had a handful of dates in the interim period.

( If his wife died c. October 2010 and he is "seeing" Helen c. August of 2011, or december 2011)

 

[cottonweaver]

I thought I had posted this last night but I can't find it now... OBF said he thought he saw a couple of the jurors smirking when Is told the story of the punch.

And his own defence QC groaned when he messed up the Monday morning events.

BIB. Tx. NetEd, this is music to my ears.