GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

[Alyce]

I'll tell you what he won't like. And that is when the jury comes back in after 30 minutes (all of which they'll have spent queuing for the toilet) with a verdict.

Well we know he's a whizz at physics, so perhaps we should set him a bit of homework.

If it takes one Giant Broad Bean 5 days to expel all its hot air, how long will it take 12 particles to consign this Bean to a permanent Cell state.

 

[neteditor]

BIB. Tx. NetEd, this is music to my ears.

He reckons the jury will take no more than a couple of hours to deliberate.

OT - today is my shopping day and I really want to be here for the X, so I am going to do my morning chores and head out. I'm keeping a list of questions for OBF when I catch up with him hopefully tonight.

 

[MillyM]

The jury in the Royston murder trial heard on Tuesday that suspect Ian Stewart sent a string of text messages to his partner Helen Bailey’s phone after reporting her missing.*

Mr Stewart denies drugging and killing his 51-year-old partner and dumping her body in a cesspit beneath their Baldock Road home.

Intelligence analyst Kirsty McGowan gave evidence regarding phone activity on the final day of the prosecution case.

On the evening of April 18, a week after the alleged killing, phone records show messages were sent from 56-year-old Mr Stewart’s phone to Ms Bailey’s.

The text that evening read ‘please call’ then another seconds later read: ‘’.*

He then sent another text saying ‘love you more’ and then a fourth – ‘I’ve respected your wishes long enough. You’ve had enough space, let me know you’re OK’.

The court heard how the next day he called her and texted her – asking her to call and that he wouldn’t tell anyone. On April 20, he wrote: ‘I need you back’.

There were then daily calls or texts between April 23 to May 5.

Ms McGowan told the court that records show that from a point during April 11, no further inward or outward calls or texts were received on Ms Bailey’s phone. When asked how that would happen, Ms McGowan confirmed it would be if the phone is switched off, the sim card is removed or if the phone is in airplane mode.

Simon Russell Flint QC, defending, said that when police checked Ms Bailey’s phone activity from April 4 and April 8 there were periods of inactivity, so it was not ‘uncommon’.

The court also heard statements from Ms Bailey’s friends Janice Rochester and Margaret Mason. Ms Rochester’s statement read that she had known Helen for 43 years – and that the author was ‘a very upbeat and chipper person, was confident and always knew her own mind’.

The court heard how Ms Bailey had communicated concerns about Mr Stewart’s health to Ms Mason, and that she was ‘concerned about being widowed again’.

The trial, expected to last at least another week, continues.*

http://www.royston-crow.co.uk/news/...xts_to_missing_partner_helen_bailey_1_4882799

 

[Alyce]

To be generous to Jamie, it could be a mistake from nerves, and he meant to say that the snooker final was in a few weeks, but the tickets were for his upcoming birthday.

However, what day did IS call Jamie at work to tell him about the gift? It was referenced on an earlier thread. Was it the 13th? Even if it was, why not tell him in person?

Could be indeed or as Tortoise says, could have meant 30th not 13th.

It is very odd to me that IS would not tell his son in person, having to phone him at work. The event was not for a few more weeks, plenty of time to announce the surprise present when they were together.

If the birthday is on the 13th it somehow makes that week even more horrific.

Am imagining the diary entries

Monday Kill fiancee

Wednesday Elder son's birthday

 

[cottonweaver]

Well we know he's a whizz at physics, so perhaps we should set him a bit of homework.

If it takes one Giant Broad Bean 5 days to expel all its hot air, how long will it take 12 particles to consign this Bean to a permanent Cell state.

Alyce, I wonder how much this is costing IS in legal fees. I do hope this case is eating away at his cash reserves.

In cases like this, I wish there was some kind of forfeiture, all these hours talking bollocks is still taking £££ out of the public purse. Makes me mad when eg. NHS is in crisis.

 

[cottonweaver]

He reckons the jury will take no more than a couple of hours to deliberate.

OT - today is my shopping day and I really want to be here for the X, so I am going to do my morning chores and head out. I'm keeping a list of questions for OBF when I catch up with him hopefully tonight.

Enjoy your shopping. I have to miss some of this morning too, must get back for the cross.

 

[icemaiden65]

Could be indeed or as Tortoise says, could have meant 30th not 13th.

It is very odd to me that IS would not tell his son in person, having to phone him at work. The event was not for a few more weeks, plenty of time to announce the surprise present when they were together.

If the birthday is on the 13th it somehow makes that week even more horrific.

Am imagining the diary entries

Monday Kill fiancee

Wednesday Elder son's birthday

From FB it seems that the birthday is 30th. I posted on here just before collapsing into bed early this morning. X

 

[MillyM]

Alyce, I wonder how much this is costing IS in legal fees. I do hope this case is eating away at his cash reserves.

In cases like this, I wish there was some kind of forfeiture, all these hours talking bollocks is still taking £££ out of the public purse. Makes me mad when eg. NHS is in crisis.

Would he be legally aided?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/criminal-legal-aid-means-testing

 

[Florrie]

He reckons the jury will take no more than a couple of hours to deliberate.

OT - today is my shopping day and I really want to be here for the X, so I am going to do my morning chores and head out. I'm keeping a list of questions for OBF when I catch up with him hopefully tonight.

That's my reckoning too....just long enough to be able to say they have considered the evidence.


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[Alyce]

No words! What a tragicomic farce. I know there's not much point picking holes, because as Dolly pointed out the story's one giant hole, but I can't help another one - so according to his earlier evidence (the phone call to report), IS arrived home just before 5pm on the Monday, then (I think) Oliver gets home around 5.30pm? So somehow, nasty Nick managed to grab the one half hour window in poor sick IS's packed afternoon to pay him a visit??

ok, ok, this is pointless. thank god he took the stand

Very likely OS gets home earlier than that, with a 7.15 departure from home to work ( 25 min drive at tops ) he is likely working 8 - 4pm. Even stopping to collect his gps from g/f, gets him home well before 5pm

But IS forgot to keep OS in his fantasy story yesterday. As I said somewhere earlier, that's the problem with these amateur fiction writers, they keep forgetting their minor characters and drop them out of the fable on a whim.

IS at the solicitors must have been just after 4.30pm (1.5 hrs after the tip according to his own Defence Counsel )
So, gets home 4.45pm approx - has encounter with Nico , lies on floor with tears in his eyes.
Goes into Helen's study and calls parents - must be 5pm at the very least now
But then, in the space of half an hour or less, he chats with OS - who presumably doesnt get home until after the big fight ? and then IS gets himself tidied up and off he goes to bowls at 5.30pm - setting the alarm on his way out, depsite OS still being in the house.

 

[JudgeJudi]

Tara Cox ‏@TaraCoxCN 4h4 hours ago

XXXXXX Hello, there wasn't a seat free in the court room today or yesterday, with extra seats put out for press. Probs same tomorrow

They should have an overflow room for the media as they did in the OP trial.

 

[Duchy]

Would he be legally aided?

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/criminal-legal-aid-means-testing

He'd better not be!

 

[Moll]

Alyce, I wonder how much this is costing IS in legal fees. I do hope this case is eating away at his cash reserves.

In cases like this, I wish there was some kind of forfeiture, all these hours talking bollocks is still taking £££ out of the public purse. Makes me mad when eg. NHS is in crisis.

I do so agree, and hope Mr Trimmer will point out to the jury at some stage that having wasted months of police time with one lot of fairy-tales, he has now wasted days of court time and money with another lot. I assume that in cross-examination he can go back to all the compelling evidence of IS's guilt - but he has to take IS's current evidence as the starting point and drag it back to reality?

 

[Alyce]

From FB it seems that the birthday is 30th. I posted on here just before collapsing into bed early this morning. X

Which ties in exactly with the week end of the Snooker

It ran from April 16 to May 2 but the only free week end IS had, was April 30/May 1

still would like to know when he bought those tickets though, being as Helen only made the suggestion on Sunday April 10.

 

[Really?]

When does the show begin ?

 

[cottonweaver]

I do so agree, and hope Mr Trimmer will point out to the jury at some stage that having wasted months of police time with one lot of fairy-tales, he has now wasted days of court time and money with another lot. I assume that in cross-examination he can go back to all the compelling evidence of IS's guilt - but he has to take IS's current evidence as the starting point and drag it back to reality?

absolutely, all those "missing" weeks of Cambs police investigations, appeals and runaround due to his "perverting the court of justice". It has to have cost hundreds of thousands and here he is again , using up weeks of valuable resources in court .

A fraction of the "man" hours on the case ^ , plus thousands of hours work CCTV viewing etc etc

 

[cottonweaver]

When does the show begin ?

morning really, think it's 10 am. which usually ends up running little late

 

[neteditor]

When does the show begin ?

10am start in Court 1 today, no other cases being heard, so should start promptly and run all day.

 

[MillyM]

He'd better not be!

He's a poor sick man - did he say something yesterday about now having a hernia too? That man is a martyr to his ills! - on benefits...

 

[cottonweaver]

He's a poor sick man - did he say something yesterday about now having a hernia too? That man is a martyr to his ills! - on benefits...

he sure did Milly

“By July my wound was still not comfortable, it’s always ached and still does.
“That’s where this hernia has recently diagnosed, right on my belly button.”
Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “Could you have picked up a dead body of the weight of Helen Bailey and carried a body over your shoulder?”
Stewart: “No.”
Mr Russell Flint: “It was going to be suggested you might have dragged her, from in the house or wherever, on the duvet?”
Stewart: “No, any pushing or pulling was intensely painful. I also felt weak as well. If we wanted anything moved, like furniture, I waited for Jamie and Oliver to get home.”*

doubtless his sons cringing again in their seats BIB