GUILTY UK - Helen Bailey, 51, Royston, 11 April 2016 #5

[BlueMosaic]

"My husband and I" (he's no 2 and certainly not gorgeous but generally good and kind ) think my daughter (beautiful, sharp, witty and sociable) has had rose-tinted spectacles on for years with her boyfriend, now husband. She chose him freely, but even his friends at the wedding referred to her being "out of his league" and she wasn't recently widowed after a long (ish) and happy marriage and still vulnerable as Helen was.

 

[Squamous]

It's such an insult to Helen to say she couldn't understand why she ended up with that kind of will. She's no idiot, she clearly discussed the whole thing in depth with the solicitor.

 

[ColourPurple]

He's a poor sick man - did he say something yesterday about now having a hernia too? That man is a martyr to his ills! - on benefits...

he sure did Milly
By July my wound was still not comfortable, it’s always ached and still does.
“That’s where this hernia has recently diagnosed, right on my belly button.”
Defence barrister Simon Russell Flint: “Could you have picked up a dead body of the weight of Helen Bailey and carried a body over your shoulder?”
Stewart: “No.”
Mr Russell Flint: “It was going to be suggested you might have dragged her, from in the house or wherever, on the duvet?”
Stewart: “No, any pushing or pulling was intensely painful. I also felt weak as well. If we wanted anything moved, like furniture, I waited for Jamie and Oliver to get home.”*


doubtless his sons cringing again in their seats BIB

That hernia could be something he should have kept to himelf. Sure it could be to do with his op but...

In adults, factors that can contribute to developing an umbilical hernia include:
being overweight or obese
straining while moving or lifting heavy objects
having a persistent heavy cough
having a multiple pregnancy (such as twins or triplets)

http://www.nhs.uk/conditions/Umbilicalhernia/Pages/Whatisitpage.aspx

 

[MillyM]

Kate Bradbrook (@katebradbrook) tweeted at 10:18 AM on Thu, Feb 09, 2017:
#helenbailey Ian Stewart tells court "Nick" hit him in side & threatened him. Told not to call police until 3pm that day 15/4 @BBCLookEast

 

[MillyM]

10:20
'Nick told me to go to the cliff top in Broadstairs and if I told the police I wouldn't see Helen again'

“Nick was furious and he hit me in the side again, I ended up on all fours on the ground.

“I was trying to get my breath.

“He went outside the bedroom and made a phonecall.

“He was telling them I hadn’t found the phone and that Helen’s brother had been to Broadstairs and wanted to phone the police. “He then came back in and said: ‘You’ve got to find that phone if you can, we need it and Helen needs it’.

“He then said we want you to bring it to Broadstairs tomorrow (April 16).

“He said go to Broadstairs regardless whether I found the phone or not.

“He then told me that after lunch at 1.30pm to walk along the cliff top in Broadstairs.

“He spun me round put his arm round my neck and said: ‘You don’t seem to understand how serious it is, this is really serious, if you don’t do what we say or tell the police or anyone, you won’t see Helen again’.

“He said: ‘This is what happened to Helen’ and I fell to the floor trying to get my breath back.

“He said ‘make sure I see you in Broadstairs tomorrow. Don’t tell anyone or you won’t see Helen again.’

 

[Squamous]

I hate him. What a ridiculous chuffing joke. He's stripping every last bit of decency or peace out of Helen's last days and turning it into a comedy farce. He brother must be absolutely raging.

 

[ColourPurple]

I don't think he was on benefits? I'm pretty sure the draconian assessments for PIP would have declared him well enough to work.

I'm still in shock that he has gone for this mad story. He's a complete lunatic to invent a story which means telling the jury he was lying the whole time to the police, to his family, in his cheesy public appeal etc..

Exactly my thoughts. he's now basically admitted to lying through his teeth and fooling everyone he spoke to over a prolonged period,including close friends, family and professionals. And the jury are supposed to believe him now?

 

[MillyM]

What is all this importance about the phone?

 

[MillyM]

10:22
Nick left and I found Helen's phone

“He said if you really must call police, then do so, but not until after 3pm this afternoon unless we contact you.

“On Monday, April 11 he told me he had my phone number.

“On the Friday he left, this was early in the day. I was getting up and getting myself together.

“I found Helen’s phone in the study. I pressed it and it didn’t turn on so the battery must have been dead.

“I hadn’t charged it at all. I didn’t even know it was there.”

 

[BlueMosaic]

I'd like it if the DWP found out he had not declared cohabitation or savings-depends what he was claiming, I know.

 

[Alyce]

I read something the other day that suggested that juries are generally sent out for a minimum of two hours but I'm not sure how accurate that is.

trying to remember how long it was for Becky Watts - I think it was 2 hours including lunch !

 

[MillyM]

10:24
'When I called police I said a note had been left by Helen'

“On my phone call to police I said a note had been left by Helen. I was stuck with that lie wasn’t I?

“I did have that thought to tell the police Helen had been taken, but it always was the case that I never did tell anyone.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906

 

[Squamous]

What is all this importance about the phone?

It's the basis of one of the counts of perverting the course of justice (that he lied about having it/disposed of it).

If I was being violently abducted I'm not sure I'd hide my phone in the study where neither my abductors nor partner could find it. Did Helen nip off and hide it while N&J were busy patting Boris?

 

[ColourPurple]

He's a poor sick man - did he say something yesterday about now having a hernia too? That man is a martyr to his ills! - on benefits...

Victoria Wade (@skyfieldeditor) tweeted at 10:05 AM on Thu, Feb 09, 2017:
Ian Stewart, accused of murdering author Helen Bailey is continuing his defence at St Albans Cown Court.

Victoria Wade (@skyfieldeditor) tweeted at 10:08 AM on Thu, Feb 09, 2017:
IS describing when Nick, who he claims abducted Helen, handed him his phone and he spoke to Helen Bailey telling her he loved her.

OH big mistake IS.

He could have said they hid her body that day but nope by speaking to her on the phone and confirming she was still alive he's got to write in an extra chapter about how they got back into the property at a later date to put her in the cess pit.

 

[MillyM]

10:25
Stewart said he tried to access Helen's Barclay's account

“I thought maybe Joe had taken money from Helen so I tried to get into her Barclays account, but I couldn’t.

“I could get into the joint account no problem.

“I couldn’t log into the Barclays account, I realised you needed Helen’s bank card to do that and the pin entry thing.

“The first thing police asked me when I arrived was to check the bank accounts, so I did. I tried to check Helen’s bank account again.

“I wasn’t able to log in to her Barclay’s account. I’ve never ever logged into Helen’s Barclays account.”

 

[Squamous]

I'm in crying rather than laughing mode today. I have no words for this man.

 

[Alyce]

He spun me round put his arm round my neck


ah, similar to the choke hold that the pathologist described re Helen

 

[MillyM]

10:28
'I text Helen's phone even though I had it in my posession'

“During this time Helen’s Jeep was at the front of the house. On the day I called the police and when police arrived, there was nothing covering up the view of the manhole cover to the cesspit in the garage.

“Police were looking around, I showed them indoors, in the garden, just showing them around.

“Just after 11.30pm I sent Helen a text to her mobile: ‘You didn’t go to Broadstairs, I contacted the police. I had no choice. They want to publicise this [that you are missing]. Please let us know you’re OK’.

“I was texting Helen and Joe, that’s just what I decided to do.

“But I had the phone at the house at this stage to take to Broadstairs. I was texting it when I had it in my possession, knowing someone would have it tomorrow.

“I thought I would give the phone to Helen the next day.”

http://www.cambridge-news.co.uk/news/cambridge-news/helen-bailey-murder-trial-ian-12578906

 

[KarenUK]

Just when I think his version of events couldn't get any more insane another quote appears on the feed. What on earth is going on in his mind (apart from not much), he cant genuinely think that anyone believes this nonsense, surely?!?!

 

[ColourPurple]

He's a poor sick man - did he say something yesterday about now having a hernia too? That man is a martyr to his ills! - on benefits...

10:17
'I told Nick Helen's brother was looking for her'

“Nick took the phone back from me. He said: ‘Go and find the phone’ so we looked everywhere in the house.

“Nick was getting agitated. I didn’t actually find Helen’s phone.

“Nick asked had anyone asked for Helen?

“I said her brother John and her friends, I said John had gone down to Broadstairs to see if Helen was there. And that he wanted to phone the police.”

*whispers* you had her phone with you down in Broadstairs IS