UK - Holly Wells, 10, & Jessica Chapman, 10, murdered, Soham, 4 Aug 2002

[mushyb]

Asphyxia 'likely cause' of Soham deaths

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/3249887.stm

 

[AussieSim]

Asphyxia?? Didn't think of that.

This has raised all sorts of questions in my mind now as to how he did it. How on earth would he asphyxiate one and keep the other one detained and quiet??? There were no drugs in their systems, so the girls hadn't been doped or anything.

Obviously the police believe he did it on his own. I just don't understand HOW.

Thanks for all the links guys!!

Aussie

 

[Casshew]

Originally posted by AussieSim
Asphyxia?? Didn't think of that.

This has raised all sorts of questions in my mind now as to how he did it. How on earth would he asphyxiate one and keep the other one detained and quiet??? There were no drugs in their systems, so the girls hadn't been doped or anything.

Obviously the police believe he did it on his own. I just don't understand HOW.

Hi Aussie... I have to agree it is very odd.

I have a 10 year old daughter and sometimes we play fight and I try to tickle her ... he is a little tiger, all over the place and impossible to hold still... and we are only playing.

I don't know how this guy managed to murder both girls unless they were restrained somehow

Cass...

 

[Toth]

Its not too hard to intimidate them into being quiet long enough to be tied and gagged.

Apparently he had invited them in since one of them had a nosebleed. I don't know if thats what happened or not, but that is the claim.

It seems that during the investigation his girl friend repeatedly gave police a series of very detailed but greatly fabricated statements.

 

[mushyb]

Jurors to visit tragic site
http://www.itv.com/news/1931655.html

HUNTLEY BURNED SCHOOLGIRLS' BODIES
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...LEY-BURNED-SCHOOLGIRLS--BODIES-name_page.html

CARR'S CRIB CARD
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...TRIAL--DAY-5--CARR-S-CRIB-CARD-name_page.html

GIRLS ASKED TO CLEAN UP NOSE BLEED
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...o-house-to-clean-up-nose-bleed-name_page.html

49 SHIRT FIBRES IN HUNTLEY HOUSE
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/allnew...-shirt-fibres-in-Huntley-house-name_page.html

 

[AussieSim]

How do you restrain one, and stop the other from fleeing or screaming???

This has really got me puzzled.

I just don't get it.

Aussie

 

[mushyb]

Soham jury visits Huntley's house
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3257725.stm

 

[AussieSim]

Huntley said one of the girls had a nosebleed. He took her to the bathroom upstairs, and the other girl also went upstairs and sat on the end of Huntley and Carr's double bed.

Huh?? What innocent male would invite or allow a young girl to sit on his bed???!!!

Also, Police noticed that the bath was cracked. How it was cracked will be something that will be asked later in the trial.

I feel so sick when I think about what those girls might have been through with Huntley.

Aussie

 

[mushyb]

me to aussie, it's heartbreaking

Soham becomes an Old Bailey court
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3257805.stm

 

[AussieSim]

Thanks for all the links mushy!!

Is there a link for a timeline?

I'm interested to know what time the girls went past Huntley's house, and how long after they think he dumped them. He was already changing his car tyres by that evening wasn't he??

Aussie

 

[mushyb]

here you go aussie


Timeline: Girls' last movements
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/cambridgeshire/3244403.stm

 

[AussieSim]

thanks mushy!

Did you see the BBC article about how Huntley comforted Holly's father after the girls went missing?

What a sick creep. I still think Huntley and Carr are both a card short of the pack.

Aussie

 

[mushyb]

Huntley admits 'I'm responsible'
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3254102.stm

his lies make me sick :sick:

 

[Doyle]

Ian Huntley reacted angrily in court when he was accused of deliberately drowning Holly Wells in his bathroom.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3257470.stm

 

[Doyle]

The jury in the Soham murders trial was told yesterday that it was about to hear the final evidence in the case and that Maxine Carr would be centre stage
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/mai...04.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/04/ixnewstop.html

MAXINE Carr yesterday admitted lying to protect her lover Ian Huntley - but insisted she would have gone straight to the police if she had thought he had anything to do with the deaths of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman.
http://www.news.scotsman.com/index.cfm?id=1331092003

Maxine Carr wanted to marry and have a daughter like Holly Wells, she told the Old Bailey.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?

Carr: 'I didn't believe Huntley did it'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/cr...04.xml&sSheet=/news/2003/12/04/ixnewstop.html

Huntley is accused of 'weaving a clever, false story'
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=469870

 

[Doyle]

"I'm not going to be blamed for what that thing in the box [Mr Huntley] has done to me and those children," she told the Old Bailey.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3290307.stm

Maxine Carr has insisted she did not know Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman were dead when she lied to police
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3291503.stm

Carr turns on 'abusive and controlling' Huntley
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=470209

I had no choice with Huntley, says Carr
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=470217

Huntley: I put myself 'beyond point of return' by not calling police
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1099326,00.html

 

[Doyle]

Ian Huntley murdered schoolgirls Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman after something went wrong when he initiated a sexual encounter with one or both girls, the Old Bailey has heard.
http://www.reuters.co.uk/newsPackageArticle.jhtml?type=topNews&storyID=419720&section=news

Ian Huntley's defence says there is evidence he is guilty of Holly Wells and Jessica Chapman's manslaughter
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/3307285.stm

Killer Huntley's 'Nerves of Steel'
http://www.news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2281513

 

[Hugh]

Judge will conclude summing up today, jury is expected to retire lunchtime. I was talking to a Police friend of mine yesterday who reckons that if the jury actually went on evidence alone Huntley would get manslaughter and Carr would be cleared !!! Luckily as he said the jury will probably return guilty on both, though Carr may be lucky, I just hope it's over soon and they go away for a long time.

 

[Doyle]

The Soham trial judge has warned jurors that Maxine Carr's anger with Ian Huntley may have coloured any evidence against her former boyfriend
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3310313.stm

Maxine Carr has been "vilified" and cast alongside Moors murderer Myra Hindley, the Soham trial has heard.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3309375.stm

The jury in the Soham murder trial is expected to be sent out today to consider its verdicts, after the judge warned them not to let emotion influence them in this "tragic case".
http://news.independent.co.uk/uk/crime/story.jsp?story=472464

The lies and deceit of Ian Huntley and Maxine Carr do not prove their guilt, the Soham trial judge warned today.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/soham/story/0,14010,1104981,00.html

 

[Doyle]

The jury in the Soham murder trial has been sent home after failing to reach a verdict by the end of Monday
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/3319483.stm