Just a quick comment regarding internet search browsing history. He was arrested or at least kept behind bars 4-5 days after the event (i think please correct me if wrong). This would tell me that he wouldn't have had the time to process it and start searching for how a body might react in water. JmoHaving followed lots of cases these are exactly the type of things presented that do tip the balance...knowing a river is there is not the same as a murderer desperate to know how a body will react in water etc
Blood has often been found on clothes despite washing..especially shoes
These are things seen many times in trials ..tipping the balance..I really struggle with an opinion that they wouldn't..but I accept its your opinion
She didn't stay at home when the taxi driver left her there. She may not have stayed at home if Pawel had left her there.
Do you remember when a witness saw Pawel cleaning the inside of his car after Libby's last sighting? If he was washing mud from inside of his car and the ground was frozen solid, where did the mud come from?
He was wearing trainers.If he's just cleaning dried dirt out of his car, you can just pick it up off the streets in winter. I've said before: I clean my car in cold weather, inside and out, because it gets filthy from the roads and gritting, and wearing shoes/boots with sturdier soles means I carry all sorts of gravel and muck into the footwells. And I've been nowhere near a park!
I am curious about how he will react to any guilty verdict. We know he had a temper when he was sentenced for his previous crimes. MOO
I think the point is that mud and dirt accrues in a car, especially in winter.He was wearing trainers.
How did he react previously? Sorry, I might have missed it and really interested to know.
Yes exactly. The point of that witness was the timingI think the point is that mud and dirt accrues in a car, especially in winter.
I still don't remember any specific mention of mud in his car, but if he is forensically aware, he would know that any kind of soil traces might be matched to a particular site, so it would be another reason to clean the car thoroughly.
That said, he has been in ORPF for legitimate reasons so it wouldn't have proved anything.
He was wearing trainers.
Just a quick comment regarding internet search browsing history. He was arrested or at least kept behind bars 4-5 days after the event (i think please correct me if wrong). This would tell me that he wouldn't have had the time to process it and start searching for how a body might react in water. Jmo
He had just over 5 full days before the police picked him up ...the case was all over media because obviously she was still missing at that point.. the temptation to Google her would have been massive and a lot of people have succumbed to that mistake...even been caught out on using work or friends computers
None of this matters, any car will get dirty inside especially in the winter and especially if young children are involved.The ground was mainly frozen too, so why wash the mats if that was what he was doing?
He said: “I saw him cleaning his car mats on the pavements with a brush or washing mats."
Why not just use the hoover for dried debris?
Mr Thornton said he recognised Relowicz as a neighbour. He says: “He had a vacuum cleaner.
Why use the 'brush' unless you need to scrub something off with water?
Pawel Relowicz told police he 'wanted Libby to be found' - trial
None of this matters, any car will get dirty inside especially in the winter and especially if young children are involved.
As C Greek has said, the significance was in the timing.
I respectfully disagree. The lack of internet search which would conveniently prove his guilt just days after the event does not prove he is not guilty. He was so arrogant that he just didn't care imo. 5 days is not a lot of time as well. Especially as he was supposedly back to work the day afterHe had just over 5 full days before the police picked him up ...the case was all over media because obviously she was still missing at that point.. the temptation to Google her would have been massive and a lot of people have succumbed to that mistake...even been caught out on using work or friends computers
Libby had cut knees so there was probably blood in his car. JMOThe ground was mainly frozen too, so why wash the mats if that was what he was doing?
He said: “I saw him cleaning his car mats on the pavements with a brush or washing mats."
Why not just use the hoover for dried debris?
Mr Thornton said he recognised Relowicz as a neighbour. He says: “He had a vacuum cleaner.
Why use the 'brush' unless you need to scrub something off with water?
Pawel Relowicz told police he 'wanted Libby to be found' - trial
Just out of curiosity.
Any evidence he googled his previous crimes, searching for reports of numerous victims?