Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest* #2

[Spender]

Can’t really say if it’s Lindsay’s jacket or not but the video is very eery indeed.

I’d say judging how it is reflective it’s possibly a high viz vest or jacket . MOO . Also I’m not sure if we are allowed to discuss the contents of the vid on here ?

 

[CharlestonGal]

ALL discussion related to a random youtube video has been removed. The video was not from an approved source.

Please do not continue to discuss it.

Thanks.

Bump

 

[Angleterre]

I nor anyone in my circle of friends know him so can’t say on that.

I don’t think it helps a lot either with some of the terms LE have used imo

Calling the body an object....could that have meant it’s was wrapped and they were unable to verify a body, but they had a good idea and considering there was a missing woman they err’d on caution and forensically tested it before taking off what ever it was wrapped in.

Concealed...shallow grave, under undergrowth or the fact it may have been wrapped?

I think the body was still intact, based purely on no charges were made for dismembering it.

Compression of the neck...did he strangle her?

Lindsay was 5 11. Not your average height for a woman around here, I wonder how tall he is.

If he is a lot smaller than her he wouldn’t he have the disadvantage? He would have had to knock her off her feet

Throwing ideas out :
Could it be someone that she was in a relationship with whom she was going to meet to discuss the relationship and the discussion got heated and things became violent and ultimately resulted in her being strangled ? The perpetrator/s panic and rope in an unsuspecting youth to remove her body as the penalty for a youth will be much less severe than an adult offender?
Hence why she was just what appeared to be ‘quickly popping out ‘ before returning home to have dinner ( tea) with her daughter???
All MOO and just throwing out ideas . Maybe there will be more arrests .
Either way, LB should not have been attacked period , and especially in such a violent way resulting in her horrific death and violation of her body.

 

[Dcflag]

i don't think it was a sexual motive at all

Lindsay was a 47 year old woman, not an obvious person to develop an obsession or attraction to really. would a 16 year old really be attracted to this quite conservative looking lady? more likely, given his background, he would be more interested in glammed up younger girls, but then i could be wrong....

Sexual assault and rape is often about control and not really about sexual attractiveness.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Sexual assault and rape is often about control and not really about sexual attractiveness.

"Like" x10,000.

 

[CharlestonGal]

i don't think it was a sexual motive at all

Lindsay was a 47 year old woman, not an obvious person to develop an obsession or attraction to really. would a 16 year old really be attracted to this quite conservative looking lady? more likely, given his background, he would be more interested in glammed up younger girls, but then i could be wrong....

What's his background?

 

[Dcflag]

What's his background?

I assume it's a reference to a traveller lifestyle.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I assume it's a reference to a traveller lifestyle.

Ah. So we're back to rumors again, eh?

 

[Dcflag]

Ah. So we're back to rumors again, eh?

That old merry go round

 

[Rosegold68]

Sexual assault and rape is often about control and not really about sexual attractiveness.

Yes, yes I KNOW this ( I did say anger/respect all those things also) but we are looking for a less obvious reason for this crime as nothing seems to make sense ... hence thinking a bit outside the box

Also I have 3 boys, my middle is 16. So I’m looking through his eyes also and it makes even less sense. I just can’t fathom why this might have happened. Why a 16 yr old would do this

 

[Rosegold68]

With most 16 year olds I know it truly IS about looks. Looks,brands, latest gadgets etc ...

 

[CharlestonGal]

With most 16 year olds I know it truly IS about looks. Looks,brands, latest gadgets etc ...

This boy is obviously not "most 16 year olds". Most 16 y/o kids don't go around murdering people. This is an incredibly violent and dangerous person we're talking about, not our own benevolent sons. It is completely reasonable, IMO, for this to have been a simple case of sexual assault and murder, wild theories aside.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

i don't think it was a sexual motive at all

Lindsay was a 47 year old woman, not an obvious person to develop an obsession or attraction to really. would a 16 year old really be attracted to this quite conservative looking lady? more likely, given his background, he would be more interested in glammed up younger girls, but then i could be wrong....

I believe I saw you mention elsewhere that you are exLE so your knowledge would be far more well informed than mine...but surely, sex attack has far more to do with power and acting on urges rather than physical attraction? Other than those who for instance deliberately target a "type" for specific reasons.

I'm not assuming in saying this that it was a sex predator attack by the way.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

This boy is obviously not "most 16 year olds". Most 16 y/o kids don't go around murdering people. This is an incredibly violent and dangerous person we're talking about, not our own benevolent sons. It is completely reasonable, IMO, for this to have been a simple case of sexual assault and murder, wild theories aside.

Exactly. That's quite some leap....into gadgets and looks, to sexual predator!

 

[Joolz1975]

i don't think it was a sexual motive at all

Lindsay was a 47 year old woman, not an obvious person to develop an obsession or attraction to really. would a 16 year old really be attracted to this quite conservative looking lady? more likely, given his background, he would be more interested in glammed up younger girls, but then i could be wrong....

Words fail me.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Words fail me.

@CharlestonGal sits on fingers.

 

[Rosegold68]

I believe I saw you mention elsewhere that you are exLE so your knowledge would be far more well informed than mine...but surely, sex attack has far more to do with power and acting on urges rather than physical attraction? Other than those who for instance deliberately target a "type" for specific reasons.

I'm not assuming in saying this that it was a sex predator attack by the way.

Who knows? Nobody here does that’s for sure

Just looking at it from different perspectives rather than the same old ‘power’ Etc.

I’m not sure why people are still referring to the things we’ve been told to not discuss either, seems some want the thread closed down again

 

[CoverMeCagney]

I believe I saw you mention elsewhere that you are exLE

Are you ex police @Rosegold68 ? I didn't realise.

 

[CharlestonGal]

I believe I saw you mention elsewhere that you are exLE so your knowledge would be far more well informed than mine...but surely, sex attack has far more to do with power and acting on urges rather than physical attraction? Other than those who for instance deliberately target a "type" for specific reasons.

I'm not assuming in saying this that it was a sex predator attack by the way.

I agree. And I think some people (and maybe the 16 y/o in question here) have those urges and then act on them when a victim/opportunity presents itself. The victim could be 2, or 40 or 90 years old. No one is immune.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

Who knows? Nobody here does that’s for sure

Just looking at it from different perspectives rather than the same old ‘power’ Etc.

I’m not sure why people are still referring to the things we’ve been told to not discuss either, seems some want the thread closed down again

Confused by this as it responds to my post but thinking that's just coincidental.