Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest* #2

[CharlestonGal]

Who knows? Nobody here does that’s for sure

Just looking at it from different perspectives rather than the same old ‘power’ Etc.

I’m not sure why people are still referring to the things we’ve been told to not discuss either, seems some want the thread closed down again

I don't see anyone discussing things outside the TOS...?

 

[Rosegold68]

I don't see anyone discussing things outside the TOS...?

Well I do. So does admin .... there’s a warning post few posts back

 

[CharlestonGal]

Well I do. So does admin .... there’s a warning post few posts back

That warning was old. Admin did not post it. I bumped it myself because people were asking if certain things were okay to be discussed.

I don't see anything currently that violates TOS, so we're all good here I think.

 

[Rosegold68]

That warning was old. Admin did not post it. I bumped it myself because people were asking if certain things were okay to be discussed.

I don't see anything currently that violates TOS, so we're all good here I think.

Lol it was 3 hours ago discussing rumours again. All good here? Page 21

 

[CharlestonGal]

Lol it was 3 hours ago discussing rumours again. All good here? Page 21

3 hours is a lifetime ago on WS. I said nothing is currently being discussed that is in violation.

 

[CharlestonGal]

Throwing ideas out :
Could it be someone that she was in a relationship with whom she was going to meet to discuss the relationship and the discussion got heated and things became violent and ultimately resulted in her being strangled ? The perpetrator/s panic and rope in an unsuspecting youth to remove her body as the penalty for a youth will be much less severe than an adult offender?
Hence why she was just what appeared to be ‘quickly popping out ‘ before returning home to have dinner ( tea) with her daughter???
All MOO and just throwing out ideas . Maybe there will be more arrests .
Either way, LB should not have been attacked period , and especially in such a violent way resulting in her horrific death and violation of her body.

So thinking an older relative, perhaps, dragging the 16 y/o in on it? That is certainly possible in this world we currently live in, unfortunately.

 

[Spender]

Throwing ideas out :
Could it be someone that she was in a relationship with whom she was going to meet to discuss the relationship and the discussion got heated and things became violent and ultimately resulted in her being strangled ? The perpetrator/s panic and rope in an unsuspecting youth to remove her body as the penalty for a youth will be much less severe than an adult offender?
Hence why she was just what appeared to be ‘quickly popping out ‘ before returning home to have dinner ( tea) with her daughter???
All MOO and just throwing out ideas . Maybe there will be more arrests .
Either way, LB should not have been attacked period , and especially in such a violent way resulting in her horrific death and violation of her body.

I’m with you on this one as a possibility.

 

[CharlestonGal]

@Whitehall 1212 - If you'd be so kind....

If another arrest is made, the police will announce it won't they? LE has not made a peep since the day they arrested the lad. Surely they will tell us if they arrest anyone else...?

 

[Bampot]

I have faith in the police and I think if there were more people involved they would of been arrested by now.
We dont know what evidence they have which is enough for charge. It obviously must be very compelling for the charge ie not just the cctv which we have seen. They have much more evidence he has committed this crime.
As people have touched on the police have not tried to reassure the public about a murderer being out on the loose, they seem sure they have got their man .
I don't know what happened but think he is solely responsible for this murder.

 

[Skigh]

Have there been any other cases where some one else has been arrested as an accomplice after any length of time?

 

[CharlestonGal]

Have there been any other cases where some one else has been arrested as an accomplice after any length of time?

I would imagine so. Here in the US some suspects ultimately turn on their partners in crime when looking down the barrel of a life sentence. Sometimes, things suddenly become real and perpetrators will turn on each other before trial in order to get a lesser sentence.

Oh, how I wish I knew what the boy said to police under questioning.

 

[Rosegold68]

he quite possibly said nothing more than "no comment'...frustrating as that is

 

[Whitehall 1212]

@Whitehall 1212 - If you'd be so kind....

If another arrest is made, the police will announce it won't they? LE has not made a peep since the day they arrested the lad. Surely they will tell us if they arrest anyone else...?

It would be unlikely for LE to announce further arrests, unless it advances their objectives.

The previous arrest, was on the back of a CCTV release from LE. LE announced the arrest in that instance as they would have been aware of the public mood concerning safety, following LB's tragic death, as well as the possible risk to incorrectly identified persons.

In some instances, authorisation may be given to hold someone 'incommunicado'. This is when no one is informed of the arrest for a period of time, when to do so may obstruct the investigation or put others at risk of physical harm, e.g. evidence may be hidden, destroyed or other possible suspects may move elsewhere.

 

[GoldenFlower]

So thinking an older relative, perhaps, dragging the 16 y/o in on it? That is certainly possible in this world we currently live in, unfortunately.

I agree it’s possible, but boy that is some trust in a boy of his age..

If that is the case and he claims he only moved the body let’s hope he comes to his senses and realises this other person doesn’t give 2 hoots about him or him possibly spending the rest of his life behind bars.

 

[CharlestonGal]

It would be unlikely for LE to announce further arrests, unless it advances their objectives.

The previous arrest, was on the back of a CCTV release from LE. LE announced the arrest in that instance as they would have been aware of the public mood concerning safety, following LB's tragic death, as well as the possible risk to incorrectly identified persons.

In some instances, authorisation may be given to hold someone 'incommunicado'. This is when no one is informed of the arrest for a period of time, when to do so may obstruct the investigation, e.g. evidence may be hidden, destroyed or other possible suspects may move elsewhere.

hmmmm....so there could be others in jail right now without us knowing about it? Very interesting.

I hope you're not offended by me calling you out like that, but you are my go-to person for all things UK legal.

 

[Whitehall 1212]

hmmmm....so there could be others in jail right now without us knowing about it? Very interesting.

I hope you're not offended by me calling you out like that, but you are my go-to person to all things UK legal.

There need to be very good ongoing grounds to deny an arrested person, in police custody, the right to have someone informed. It is a power that is used very sparingly and subject to authorisation and regular review by a senior officer, as those arrested have rights whilst in police custody (England and Wales).

 

[CharlestonGal]

There needs to be very good ongoing grounds to deny an arrested person, in police custody, the right to have someone informed. It is a power that is used very sparingly and subject to authorisation and regular review by a senior officer, as those arrested have rights whilst in police custody (England and Wales).

It's so odd how different our two countries can be. Here in the US, LE shouts it to the rooftops when they make an arrest (or two or three). Then the press descends and we know the whole life story of said people within a day or two.

In the UK, it seems, we just get....crickets.

 

[HongKongPhooey]

It's so odd how different our two countries can be. Here in the US, LE shouts it to the rooftops when they make an arrest (or two or three). Then the press descends and we know the whole life story of said people within a day or two.

In the UK, it seems, we just get....crickets.

What's crickets?

 

[CharlestonGal]

What's crickets?

American slang for "silence". It's when things suddenly go so quiet all one can hear is the chirping of crickets.

 

[Whitehall 1212]

What's crickets?

I think @CharlestonGal meant "cricket" or the noble art of "how to bowl a maiden over"