Found Deceased UK - Lindsay Birbeck, 47, Accrington, 12 Aug 2019 *Arrest* #2

[Ann Blyth]

Could someone give us some info about pathology evidence as this is what we are expecting tomorrow ?

Most likely to be cause of death, and in relation to any other injuries, such as defence wounds, estimate as to time of death, and how the pathologist came to those conclusions. The defence may also have their own pathologist in court at the pertinent time, if they wish to challenge any of the prosecution’s pathologists findings. I am not sure in this case, if there were two post-mortems carried out, one for each for the prosecution and the defence.

 

[LancashireLad]

Most likely to be cause of death, and in relation to any other injuries, such as defence wounds, estimate as to time of death, and how the pathologist came to those conclusions. The defence may also have their own pathologist in court at the pertinent time, if they wish to challenge any of the prosecution’s pathologists findings. I am not sure in this case, if there were two post-mortems carried out, one for each for the prosecution and the defence.

If I remember correctly the defence got a second post mortem

 

[Mommysleuth11]

Mike Stevens

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His police dog, Danny, was trained to smell blood and flesh but after examining the bin and surrounding bushes “gave no indication at all”.

Wow.

 

[Dcflag]

What evidence is there so far, that Lindsey was ever on the coppice? CCTV puts him there, two hours prior. But she isn't seen going there? So what is her there? Just the fact that he was there and they think he killed her? And the statement she often walked there?

 

[Coveting]

Hi everyone, been following this case since Lindsay was reported missing.

Can’t find the quote to copy it now, but a few pages back there was a quote from the court proceedings that said Lindsay was classed as ‘high risk’ when she went missing, why was this? Anyone know?

 

[Smccat]

Strangers don’t ask strangers to move bodies - if this was the case he’d surely give them up ? Or it simply didn’t happen

 

[Smccat]

Hi everyone - I’d say it’s good to be back but that’s a bit wierd. Been watching the trial but had a super busy few days. Sorry if it’s been discussed but does anyone feel stamping or kneeling on the neck goes above and beyond what was probably necessary and may symbolise some pure and maybe prior hatred for something ? Just a little wonder of my own here is all

 

[SpursGyal]

Hi everyone, been following this case since Lindsay was reported missing.

Can’t find the quote to copy it now, but a few pages back there was a quote from the court proceedings that said Lindsay was classed as ‘high risk’ when she went missing, why was this? Anyone know?

No, they have indicated why as far as I am aware.

 

[Alyce]

What evidence is there so far, that Lindsey was ever on the coppice? CCTV puts him there, two hours prior. But she isn't seen going there? So what is her there? Just the fact that he was there and they think he killed her? And the statement she often walked there?

I think it was the fact that there was no further sighting after the bungalow cctv. She didnt turn back, otherwise the cctv would have shown her again and if she had carried on further down Burnley Road, she would have been seen again at some point. So the conclusion was that she must have turned up towards the Coppice.

 

[MusicalMonkey]

Strangers don’t ask strangers to move bodies - if this was the case he’d surely give them up ? Or it simply didn’t happen

My thoughts exactly. I can't believe the defence has come up with such an obvious and bull story. They have to say something I suppose, but the cynic in me thinks it's something to do with earning their corn as much as anything else.

If it was a stranger you simply would not take the blame, when you found yourself in the dock for murder. Though I don't know the exact meaning of 'moderate learning difficulties', the fact the defendant went to such lengths to hide the body and also (per the CCTV evidence), "went on a dry run" shows that he is a quite calculated individual in some ways.

For those of you that think there is another person involved (perhaps even The Mysterious Hooded Man). Where exactly did this other person appear and disappear, seemingly without trace?
And do you think he is known to the defendant? Which is at least slightly more plausible than a mysterious stranger.

 

[SpursGyal]

Lindsay Birbeck murder trial day two - live updates from Preston Crown Court


The soil found with her body indicate she was in the coppice at some point....




‘12:41pm

Mr McLachlan is explaining to the jury how Dr Mark Spencer, a forensic botanist, concluded that plants found under Lindsay's body were not from Accrington Cemetery but from The Coppice.’

 

[Smccat]

The defendants barrister is mega top brass - what is all that about. Either something majorly sinister is coming our way or money is talking. One thing I feel is that if I was his barrister with such a cv and record this would probably be the last case I’d take.

 

[Kaykedi]

The defendants barrister is mega top brass - what is all that about. Either something majorly sinister is coming our way or money is talking. One thing I feel is that if I was his barrister with such a cv and record this would probably be the last case I’d take.

Crikey, could there be anything more sinister coming out? Agree with you about the barrister, wonder why they decided to take this case

 

[Kaykedi]

Hi everyone, been following this case since Lindsay was reported missing.

Can’t find the quote to copy it now, but a few pages back there was a quote from the court proceedings that said Lindsay was classed as ‘high risk’ when she went missing, why was this? Anyone know?

Lindsay was classed as a high risk missing person as they knew it was out of character for her to go off the radar (the police know these things). Hope I'm making some sense as tired!

 

[Smccat]

Crikey, could there be anything more sinister coming out? Agree with you about the barrister, wonder why they decided to take this case

I really don’t know but I’ve tried to weigh up the masked stranger thing and I just can’t get on it at all. The only way that could be true is if he knows them somehow and they knew and trusted him - so why with his head on the block doesn’t he just say who asked him and why?

The barrister appointment I’m massively intrigued by ...

 

[Kaykedi]

I really don’t know but I’ve tried to weigh up the masked stranger thing and I just can’t get on it at all. The only way that could be true is if he knows them somehow and they knew and trusted him - so why with his head on the block doesn’t he just say who asked him and why?

The barrister appointment I’m massively intrigued by ...

If this man does exist, I wonder if the defendant isn't prepared to name him as he really believes he's going to get the money he was promised 'when all this is over'?

 

[Bluetooth]

Is it feasible that 1 personal alone could get a body into a bin without any help?

Its unfortunate that the police missed the significance of bin early in the investigation.

It seems that the prosecution case is mostly circumstantial - cctv pictures etc. But nothing linking him to the murder.

 

[Smccat]

If this man does exist, I wonder if the defendant isn't prepared to name him as he really believes he's going to get the money he was promised 'when all this is over'?

Or he’s already had it ?

 

[Kaykedi]

Is it feasible that 1 personal alone could get a body into a bin without any help?

Its unfortunate that the police missed the significance of bin early in the investigation.

It seems that the prosecution case is mostly circumstantial - cctv pictures etc. But nothing linking him to the murder.

I believe it's possible for one person to place a victim in a wheelie bin, not easy to do, I imagine, but when something is this pressing, you find a strength you maybe didn't know you had

 

[Kaykedi]

Or he’s already had it ?

Yes!