GUILTY UK- Major incident declared in Southport after multiple stabbings, 29 July 2024

[Dotta]

"The Prince and Princess of Wales
met privately this morning with the grieving parents of tragic stabbing victim Elsie Dot Stancombe
during a visit to her former school in Southport.



The Princess of Wales meets children from Farnborough Road Infant and Junior School,
where Elsie Dot Stancombe was a pupil.



The Princess told pupils today:

'I’m very impressed with all of you and all the hard work you’re doing.
What a fantastic thing to learn to raise money to help other people.
Keep up your hard work'."

Kate joins William to visit primary school in Southport

The Prince and Princess of Wales have sat down for an emotional conversation with the parents of two of the girls brutally murdered in the Southport attack.

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[Lucy6226]

Southport killer's taxi driver 'waited 50 minutes' to call 999

Gary Poland, who picked Rudakubana up from his home in Banks, Lancashire, on July 29 last year, took nearly an hour to call 999 despite hearing children scream.

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The taxi driver who drove Axel Rudakubana to the children's dance class where he carried out the Southport knife attack waited 50 minutes before calling the police, an inquiry has heard.

Gary Poland, who picked Rudakubana up from his home in Banks, Lancashire, took nearly an hour to call 999 despite hearing children scream and seeing them fleeing the massacre in his rearview mirror as he drove away.

When the taxi driver did eventually call 999, he was heard telling the operator: 'I heard screaming, proper screaming.'

Honestly, I think the poor man was in shock and probably needed to process what he saw, because why would you think that a random dude would go in and stab a load of children. It's unthinkable. I'm trying no to judge his actions.

The enquiry stated it made no difference to the police response as they were called straight away by the teacher.

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1970890181440938225

 

[worldwatcher]

DBM (double post)

 

[worldwatcher]

Axel Rudakubana: Southport killer asked crossbow sellers about age verification when he was 15, inquiry told

(stolen ID??)
"Axel Rudakubana went on to buy three machetes using stolen ID and two kitchen knives, one of which he used in the attack."

"In the end, Rudakubana, who is now aged 19, did not place any orders for crossbows and two of the three machetes were intercepted by his parents, the inquiry was told."

SBM

Axel Rudakubana: Southport killer asked crossbow sellers about age verification when he was 15, inquiry told

" The inquiry heard that, when purchasing the machete, the killer used a driving licence which belonged to a man who was in his 60s and living in Uxbridge as age verification."
Southport attacker bought 'ferocious' machete online inquiry told

 

[Dotta]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1975979419857481776

"Assistant Chief Constable Mark Winstanley of Lancashire police
told the inquiry into the killings:
'Sadly,
there are other children out there with similar interests and behaviours that Axel Rudakubana displayed.'

The officer said there was a
'real challenge in managing children's mental health'
and children's mental health services, were 'working extremely hard,
doing their best, but are overburdened'.

He warned of a group of children who
have 'got what appears to be completely unregulated access to the internet,
where at the click of a button,
they can see the most horrific and horrendous incidents'.

'They can go online and purchase things, which, frankly, I see no legitimate purpose for - crossbows and machetes',
the officer added."

 

[dotr]

Oct. 9, 2025 rbbm.

Southport killer referral ‘would have continued if officer saw internet history’ - Yahoo News Canada

Ps Carmen Thompson of Counter Terrorism Policing North West gave evidence to the Southport Inquiry at Liverpool Town Hall on Thursday.

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''A police sergeant has told an inquiry that she would not have closed the Southport killer’s first referral to the government’s anti-terror programme if she had seen his internet search history.''

''The referral included details that he had brought a knife to his previous school on 10 occasions; that he was found searching school shootings in America during an ICT lesson; and that he questioned why he could colour in Call of Duty images during an art lesson but could not look at guns on the internet before requesting a “picture of a severed head”.

''She told Liverpool Town Hall that she had not been aware that the investigation into Rudakubana’s school browsing history found he had searched for images of degloving injuries and glue guns.''

 

[Skigh]

Southport killer Axel Rudakubana assessed as posing no risk to others six days before attack

Elsie Dot Stancombe, Alice da Silva Aguiar and Bebe King were killed at a Taylor Swift-themed dance class in July last year by Axel Rudakubana, who was later jailed for a minimum of 52 years.

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The form, filled in by CAMHS case manager Kathryn Morris on 23 July last year, noted that Rudakubana could be verbally abusive to his father, Alphonse Rudakubana, and had thrown his phone during a video call.

Another document from the same date, called a Child Young Person (CYP) current view, recorded: "Poses risk to others: None."

Mr Moss asked CAMHS clinical lead Dr Vicky Killen: "How far short of acceptable was this assessment of risk, six days before the attack?"

She replied: "Yes, it is unacceptable. There was risk on the record and it should have been recorded in this form."

 

[Skigh]

Southport killer was most sinister pupil, teacher says

Joanne Hodson worked at The Acorns School, in Ormskirk, where Axel Rudakubana was enrolled aged 13 after being expelled from mainstream education for taking a knife into classes.

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A headteacher today described the Southport killer as ‘sinister, unpredictable and the most unusual’ pupil she had ever encountered in her career.

Axel Rudakubana was enrolled at The Acorns School, in Ormskirk, Lancashire, aged 13, after being expelled from mainstream education for taking a knife into classes.

Headteacher Joanne Hodson told the public inquiry investigating his crimes that, from his first day, she realised the teenager was ‘very high risk'.
Ms Hodson described a ‘memorable’ first meeting when she asked Rudakubana why he had taken a knife into his previous comprehensive.

'He looked me in the eyes and said "to use it",' she said. 'This is the only time in my career that a pupil has said this to me or behaved in a manner so devoid of any remorse.'

She said she was surprised that his parents, who were also at the meeting, 'didn’t flinch' at that comment and simply accepted his explanation.

They believed their son was a 'good boy' whose bad behaviour was a consequence of him being previously bullied and his actions were 'someone else’s fault', Ms Hodson said.
.........
However later, Ms Hodson said, she agreed to remove the word ‘sinister’ and comments referring to Rudakubana as ‘cold and calculating’ from an education plan after mental health workers accused her of racially profiling ‘a black boy with a knife.’

 

[Yellowbelly]

Southport killer was most sinister pupil, teacher says

Joanne Hodson worked at The Acorns School, in Ormskirk, where Axel Rudakubana was enrolled aged 13 after being expelled from mainstream education for taking a knife into classes.

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A headteacher today described the Southport killer as ‘sinister, unpredictable and the most unusual’ pupil she had ever encountered in her career.

Axel Rudakubana was enrolled at The Acorns School, in Ormskirk, Lancashire, aged 13, after being expelled from mainstream education for taking a knife into classes.

Headteacher Joanne Hodson told the public inquiry investigating his crimes that, from his first day, she realised the teenager was ‘very high risk'.
Ms Hodson described a ‘memorable’ first meeting when she asked Rudakubana why he had taken a knife into his previous comprehensive.

'He looked me in the eyes and said "to use it",' she said. 'This is the only time in my career that a pupil has said this to me or behaved in a manner so devoid of any remorse.'

She said she was surprised that his parents, who were also at the meeting, 'didn’t flinch' at that comment and simply accepted his explanation.

They believed their son was a 'good boy' whose bad behaviour was a consequence of him being previously bullied and his actions were 'someone else’s fault', Ms Hodson said.
.........
However later, Ms Hodson said, she agreed to remove the word ‘sinister’ and comments referring to Rudakubana as ‘cold and calculating’ from an education plan after mental health workers accused her of racially profiling ‘a black boy with a knife.’

So his parents were in denial, and the headteacher had her arm twisted by the mental health workers into downgrading how dangerous he actually was.

 

[dotr]

• Southport killer made repeated online searches for 'horrific' content, inquiry hears
• ''A range of concerns had been raised about him, including that he made antisemitic comments and referred to the 2017 London Bridge terror attack
• The inquiry heard the killer had called Childline to say he was being bullied and had carried a knife into school 10 times
• Childline then referred the matter to police
• One of the killer's former head teachers told how she 'dreaded' what he might do
• A PE teacher recalled how the perpetrator attacked a boy with a hockey stick and also took a knife into school''

''The inquiry is told by Mrs Hodson that the teenager’s father would endorse his son’s behaviour and “openly criticise” the school in front of his son, undermining teachers’ authority.''

 

[Skigh]

The parents should be facing charges.

 

[astheworldfallsdown]

The parents should be facing charges.

I agree. IMO the little girls AR slaughtered were let down by so many people determined to keep a ticking time bomb out in society. Anyone who covered for him should be facing charges. JMO

 

[Skigh]

Plan for Southport killer removed references to his anger, inquiry told

The Southport killer's care plan was "watered down" after discussions with his parents, the inquiry into the murders has heard.

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A care plan for the Southport killer that warned he could be "cold and calculating" and was "angry" when things went wrong was watered down, the inquiry into the murders has heard.

Repeated references to Axel Rudakubana's "perceived sense of injustice" were removed and replaced after discussions with his parents, the hearing was told.

The inquiry also heard that Rudakubana did not attend school for two years, but when the school attempted to remove him from the roll, his family objected saying it would affect their benefits.

 

[Skigh]

Southport killer's father asked social services not to share info

Alphonse Rudakubana, 49, said his family expected a 'high degree of confidentiality' and did not want those 'in charge of punishing Axel' knowing their personal information.

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The father of the Southport attacker asked social workers not to share information with colleagues from the criminal justice system in case it 'turned his family upside down,' it emerged today.

Axel Rudakubana first came onto the radar of police and social services aged just 13, in December 2019, when he went into his old school and attacked a pupil with a hockey stick.

The teenager, who had previously been expelled from The Range High School, in Formby, Merseyside, for taking knives into lessons, was also caught on his return with another blade in his bag.


Magistrates ordered him to complete several courses as part of his punishment, which were supposed to be overseen by Lancashire Council's youth offending team (YOT).

But the public inquiry today heard that, in November 2020, Rudakubana's father, Alphonse Rudakubana, 49, sent a WhatsApp message to a social worker, employed by the council's Child and Family Wellbeing Service, raising concerns about the sharing of his family's personal information with social worker colleagues from the YOT.

The taxi driver said his family expected a 'high degree of confidentiality and sensitivity' and did not want those 'in charge of punishing Axel' knowing their private details.

Mr Rudakubana wrote: 'Not to say that there is something sinister, but because it is not necessary.'

He added: 'Axel can trust you and say stuff as a child but we don't expect you to record or share some information with others that can turn our family upside down.'

 

[Dotta]

Quote from above post

"....that can turn our family upside down."

But the result was
that many other families' lives were turned upside down.

Leaving havoc, trauma and tragedy in its wake.

It seems that authorities and appropriate services were being ...ummm... persuaded?..,intimidated?

It just couldn't end well
Not at all.

And
in the end
it "turned the murderer's family upside down" as well.

SMH

JMO

 

[Lucy6226]

Southport killer's father asked social services not to share info

Alphonse Rudakubana, 49, said his family expected a 'high degree of confidentiality' and did not want those 'in charge of punishing Axel' knowing their personal information.

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The father of the Southport attacker asked social workers not to share information with colleagues from the criminal justice system in case it 'turned his family upside down,' it emerged today.

Axel Rudakubana first came onto the radar of police and social services aged just 13, in December 2019, when he went into his old school and attacked a pupil with a hockey stick.

The teenager, who had previously been expelled from The Range High School, in Formby, Merseyside, for taking knives into lessons, was also caught on his return with another blade in his bag.


Magistrates ordered him to complete several courses as part of his punishment, which were supposed to be overseen by Lancashire Council's youth offending team (YOT).

But the public inquiry today heard that, in November 2020, Rudakubana's father, Alphonse Rudakubana, 49, sent a WhatsApp message to a social worker, employed by the council's Child and Family Wellbeing Service, raising concerns about the sharing of his family's personal information with social worker colleagues from the YOT.

The taxi driver said his family expected a 'high degree of confidentiality and sensitivity' and did not want those 'in charge of punishing Axel' knowing their private details.

Mr Rudakubana wrote: 'Not to say that there is something sinister, but because it is not necessary.'

He added: 'Axel can trust you and say stuff as a child but we don't expect you to record or share some information with others that can turn our family upside down.'

They would have access to the same system, so would have seen all the information regardless if shared directly in my experience. Hopefully the main SW shut that down and stated it would be shared regardless

 

[Skigh]

INQUIRY: Southport killer Axel Rudakubana showed sympathy to Taliban

Southport killer Axel Rudakubana questioned whether the public's view of the Taliban was unfair with social workers who failed to tell police, an inquiry into the attack has heard.

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Southport killer Axel Rudakubana questioned whether the public's view of the Taliban was unfair with social workers who then failed to tell police, an inquiry into the attack has heard.


Nicholas Moss KC, counsel to the inquiry, asked: 'He was showing no criticism of the Taliban and comparing them to the situation of the US and saying it was unfair?'

To which Ms Barrett said she believed it to be 'more questioning at that point.'

Previously it was heard that the killer was referred to the Government's anti-terror programme Prevent on three occasions, but each case had closed.

However following the discussion about the Taliban, Rudakubana was not referred to the programme by social workers.

The inquest was shown an email sent by Ms Barrett to Ms Lewis on October 12, 2021, with an updated list of proscribed terror organisations alongside the comment: 'Think we need to look at this with Axel's parents.'

Ms Barrett was queried if this had emerged following the home visit, however she maintained it was due to the killer's history.

 

[Skigh]

Southport killer's brother compares him to 'sociopath' serial killer

Dion Rudakubana, 21, told the inquiry his younger brother's behaviour deteriorated and became more and more violent after he was expelled from mainstream education aged 13.

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Dion, 21, told the inquiry his younger brother's behaviour deteriorated and became more and more violent after he was expelled from mainstream education aged 13.

He said that, from 2022, when Axel was 15, he started to fear that he might kill someone in the household.

He would smash plates and confronted his father, Alphonse, 49, prompting police to be called, Dion said. Although he said he could not remember whether Axel was armed with a knife or a bottle at the time.

The inquiry was shown messages Dion had sent to a friend describing how he was fearful his brother would hit him and become violent because he was talking late at night, which Axel didn't like.

Dion said his younger brother reminded him of the fictional sociopathic murderer in the 2007 Hollywood film No Country for Old Men.

 

[Skigh]

We couldn't cope with violent son, says Southport killer's dad

The father of the Southport killer today admitted he played down his son's violent outbursts because he feared he would be taken into care.

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Asked why neither he or his parents called police or went to look for Axel after they realised he had left the house on the day of the attack armed with a knife, Dion said: 'The sentiment was that this was a positive step, this was him battling a fear.

'I didn't believe he intended to harm anyone and thought that, if he was carrying a knife, it was to protect himself, not to harm others.'

Dion said he went into Southport with friends but when he heard that a number of people had been stabbed he immediately began to fear his brother was involved.

However, he insisted his suspicions were just a 'what if' and he was much more worried about his parents, who had been struggling with Axel's violent outbursts and hiding knives from him for five years.

He said he believed the 'threat' from Axel was 'consistently' within the family home and insisted there was 'no indication' he would stab strangers.

But Mr Boyle pointed out that he had previously told police that Axel thought it 'logical' to stab someone when he was caught with a knife on a bus, in March 2022, and the risk to the general public was real.