Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #11

[Haveyoufedthecat]

Is it just me (it may well be), or has the media coverage/progression dramatically reduced today?

Concerns me that there may be some development that is subject to embargo.

User1111 yes I think you are right. No doubt some social media areas are still going nuts BUT in view of the interview with Mr Ansell last night I'm more and more convinced that interview was family driven and I'm wondering if things are now starting to be wound down. Did I notice somewhere on this thread that Peter Faulding is no longer involved? I could be wrong on that.

 

[Woodburnbay]

The lady in this picture is wearing what was originally described as what NB was wearing...ankle length black gilet or coat

Same colour hair and pony tail. But then these items are fashionable and would be amongst friends.

 

[Firstsnow4]

Was the interview with DW inside the family home?

Looked like the local pub imo.

 

[Mr X]

Was the interview with DW inside the family home?

I really hope not. That would be horrible for the children.

I seem to recall some suggestions that the PF sonar bloke was being put up by PA but I'm sure I imagined it.
IMO needed and mods delete if not appropriate.

If it's true it looks more and more like a Netflix story but could anyone do that to their children? I can't see it but I also can't see how you could invade someone's privacy like that. It's just wrong.

There is a lot wrong with this whole story.

 

[Mexx]

While I recognise the plausibility of 'walking away' , after all no one knows what goes on in another persons head, it would have been much easier for her to drive to nearest mainline station and disappear that way rather than a secretive exit from a field within her home village.
I have no doubt her body will appear somewhere downstream within the next few months.

Mainline station? If I wanted to walk away, I'd drive to the nearest airport

 

[alena_b83]

But is this not on the opposite side of the river to where NB walked and was last seen?

This is on the opposite side on Hill Lane

 

[abcd123]

Yes but they were originally shared by a family friend and then the police put them on after I believe. IMO.

https://www.itv.com/news/2023-02-05/new-ccctv-images-show-missing-nicola-bulley-on-day-she-disappeared

How and why would Emma White have access to their ring doorbell footage?

Surely it would be the husband doing this?

Odd

 

[Deleted member 113679]

It was originally reported as 4 ft deep- but PB reported it as about 3ft deep- either depth when you are a little over 5ft is going to be deep, hitting a lot of your core body reducing the temp quickly. There is also a rocky bottom- if you fell in toppling forward you may hit your head, but also the possibility you twist your foot between rocks or bend your knees and hit your knee. When I visualise people falling I always think of younger children and how and what they hit as they fall either forwards or backwards and where there injuries are (they fall far more than we do as adults). In water you will automatically try and save yourself, like a child, with your hands- but there will be no resistance to stop your momentum.

Yep so this is what I'm trying to clarify, lots of misinformation about the depth reports but I'm now almost certain it is very deep at the location from the depth gauges upstream and @Mr X info from the diving club.

From at least 13ft to 15ft (4-5 metres) deep from news articles I've found and probably more importantly the local anglers reinforcing the depth and danger at that location. And a sign saying "Deepwater" near the bench according to another news article.

Confusingly some of the news articles focus on the 2ft depth near the banks which is common for many rivers, shallow at the edge and deeper in the middle but seems to lead the reader into thinking it isn't deep across the whole river.

So I'd agree, a combination of shallow rocks near the edge being hazardous if falling and hitting them, deep in the middle and very cold that day, then if somebody was to fall in the river it is dangerous.

 

[Woodburnbay]

This is a screenshot from the St Michael's angling club map of the area. It's from the website. The deep hole is exactly where the phone and dog and dog harness were found...

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Anglers know a lot about their local areas even apparently including the name of the person who owns the old house. They know what they are doing. If they say there is a deep hole there then there is a deep hole there.

But why search the river down to estuary and not check out the deep hole???

 

[Mr X]

But why search the river down to estuary and not check out the deep hole???

Would someone with a 50 grand sonar on a small boat want to admit that sometimes it can't see everything?

 

[Deleted member 113679]

How and why would Emma White have access to their ring doorbell footage?

Surely it would be the husband doing this?

Odd

Probably previously been shared by PA with all friends/family, just takes a couple of clicks on the Ring app to do it.

If one of my loved ones disappeared, I'd share the last video footage of them leaving the house so that people could all see exactly what they were wearing etc.

 

[Normal Norm]

Would someone with a 50 grand sonar on a small boat want to admit that sometimes it can't see everything?

PF did admit that the sonar couldn't see everything.

 

[EvaP]

How and why would Emma White have access to their ring doorbell footage?

Surely it would be the husband doing this?

Odd

I think she said she was helping him didn’t she? I guess they’ve all rallied round.

 

[CriLondon]

User1111 yes I think you are right. No doubt some social media areas are still going nuts BUT in view of the interview with Mr Ansell last night I'm more and more convinced that interview was family driven and I'm wondering if things are now starting to be wound down. Did I notice somewhere on this thread that Peter Faulding is no longer involved? I could be wrong on that.

Mr.Faulding is not officially involved since the day his and his team stopped searching afaik .
Whether he chooses to talk and disclose things about the case to the press is another issue .

 

[CSIAngus]

I thought it was only the dogs that interacted in the field afaik.

Lancashire Constabulary - Latest update in search for Nicola Bulley

The latest news and information for Lancashire Constabulary

www.lancashire.police.uk

According to this she did speak to someone at the school though.

That was my initial thought that the last face to face encounter NB had was at the school and only the dogs interacted in the field.

 

[Firstsnow4]

Been following for a while, first time posting….

It seems the interview with PA was filmed here at Marsh Farm Hall on Garstang Rd. The fireplace photos look very similar. The hotel is also managed (possibly owned) by an Emma. Can’t find her surname though. I wonder if it’s EW?

Marsh Farm Hall | Lancashire

Yes that looks like it - didn’t someone post a still of last nights show and a red van could be seen out of the window? Does look more like a pickup truck to me! IMO.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1624061189595561984

 

[keef]

He said on channel 5 the days he doesn’t take the girls to school he enjoys an hour to himself before work ( so starts work 9.30ish). I’m guessing the gym is during his lunch break. He will have work to do around being available with others online so won’t do the exact hours that the US office is open.

No, PA stated "When Nikki takes the girls to school I then know that I have like an hour to myself" until she returns home, "usually back by 09.45 ... 10.00 at a push", he never said he has an hour to himself before starting work. Further, he stated that he started work that day at 10.00 and that his American colleagues work in the US Central Time Zone (UTC−06:00). And finally, he specifically said that "I go to the gym on a Friday lunchtime".

 

[Mr X]

PF did admit that the sonar couldn't see everything.

He also said he is 100% sure the MP is not in the River.

There are only two ways of viewing these two statements when put side by side.

 

[crazychris]

I still have my doubts this was Nicola on the Ring Doorbell footage
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Me too.

 

[Beginnersleuth]

Been following for a while, first time posting….

It seems the interview with PA was filmed here at Marsh Farm Hall on Garstang Rd. The fireplace photos look very similar. The hotel is also managed (possibly owned) by an Emma. Can’t find her surname though. I wonder if it’s EW?

Marsh Farm Hall | Lancashire

Good spot and it is Emma White she’s in a video for it on FB - apologies for SM but is on the Marsh Hall Farm FB advertising page