Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #5

[Cazb78]

Description of that outfit in the Telegraph today is markedly different and looks far nearer the mark (JMO):
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I expect her family didn’t really know exactly what she was wearing. If my husband went missing I might have an idea what he’d been wearing but if I’m honest I don’t usually mentally take note everyday. JMO

 

[ayrshireguy]

I think peo

Surely LE need to release some pictures of her from the walk, because this description is clearly different from the one they asked people to look out for.

Do they actually have as much info/footage as they were making it sound like they had?

Dont think they have footage of her on the walk.

 

[JimmyBets]

Great point and something I only just realised today, I am still confused by the timeline and timings myself, the police time line goes from 9:35 to 10:50 …that’s over an hour. what exactly was happening in that time. Was Paul down there soon after 9:35 and searching himself? We’re the police called and it took them until 10:50 to send an officer or team out? Or did it take the dog walkers from 9:30 to 10:50 to finally get the call across to Paul that the dog was alone and Nikkis phone was left there.

The fact the woman who first tied up willow has been omitted from the official time has really confused me also. It does not make sense why she is not included and at what time she found the dog and tied her up, she was the first person to realise something was amiss. The police are focused on a ‘10 minute window’ between the last sighting in the field and the phone+dog being found at the bench. but very little to explain what was happening at the bench/river between 9:35 and 10:50.

Exactly this. The period between 09:35 and 10:50 is horribly confusing and yet so crucial.

 

[ShireChe]

Dont think they have footage of her on the walk.

Didn't they say they had footage from all possible entrances/exits apart from a small section and that was part of the reason they were confident of no 3rd party involvement

 

[daisychain01]

Description of that outfit in the Telegraph today is markedly different and looks far nearer the mark (JMO):
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It's completely mad that we are questioning what NB was wearing 9 days after she went missing. The LE should have confirmed this much much sooner with the CCTV evidence

 

[3point5]

If you look on NB's own facebook page, there are photos of her in the gilet and it's clear she's wearing the same one in the CCTV images, there's also photos of her wearing the wellies with green socks and jeans/leggings tucked in. They are the sort of wellies that are short and look a bit like chelsea boots, but definitely welly material.

I just loaded the images up on my pc rather than phone as the screens better. 100% agree. It's clear she's got a coat on with a logo on the arm (IMO the engelbert strauss coat), then the gilet over the top. IMO the side shot of her makes it clear to see. This matches the police description to a tee.

 

[Lilbitcurious]

Dont think they have footage of her on the walk.

Yeah a bit strange considering seeing the images of witnesses? Maybe IMO there is no surveillance on the route NB took?

 

[ayrshireguy]

Didn't they said they had footage from all possible entrances/exits apart from a small section and that was part of the reason they were confident of no 3rd party involvement

They did say that but did they specifically mention NB was on it? If she was then how did they get the clothing description wrong?

 

[Blamhappy]

I agree with all you’ve said and despite a few weak reservations I believe the police are right in that Nikki fell into the river. However, as she was listening in to a Teams work meeting whilst sitting on the bench, whatever made her rush to the edge of the bank must have been something urgent. I can’t see anyone dropping everything, leaving listening in to her works meeting on account of, say, a bird or small wild animal floating in the river. It isn’t as though she could have saved it, so whatever made her rush down there must have been something more significant than just a bird or a ball.

Why not? I often connect to Teams meetings and then barely listen. Once, i managed to do all my laundry and washing up during a Teams meeting!

 

[JimmyBets]

Anyone, please?

I’ve never seen it mentioned which direction she was moving in and it’s a very good question

 

[Agatha3]

Description of that outfit in the Telegraph today is markedly different and looks far nearer the mark (JMO):
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Yes. The Telegraph description of the coat differs from police one which said waist-length coat under anklegilet. To me waist-length is like jogging jacket length, not even down to hips.

 

[ShireChe]

They did say that but did they specifically mention NB was on it? If she was then how did they get the clothing description wrong?

But then if they didn't see NB on it, how could they possibly use that same reasoning to rule out a 3rd party?

Either they didn't see her, in which case they also might not have seen a 3rd party or they did see her, in which case it's a bit strange they haven't released any images.

ETA: I still feel the river theory is likely, but there does appear to be a lack of getting proper information out there. Especially when they first said they were treating it as a missing person case

 

[Lilbitcurious]

I’ve never seen it mentioned which direction she was moving in and it’s a very good question

Maybe that’s why they are trying to get data from her Fitbit? As I mentioned yesterday was the route NB took that day different from her usual route(time/distance?)

 

[Deberysejd]

This is so utterly bizarre.

 

[Agatha3]

If you look on NB's own facebook page, there are photos of her in the gilet and it's clear she's wearing the same one in the CCTV images, there's also photos of her wearing the wellies with green socks and jeans/leggings tucked in. They are the sort of wellies that are short and look a bit like chelsea boots, but definitely welly material.

But gilet means sleeveless. This photo is a below-knee parka coat, not waist-length as police said. An ankle-length gilet would be far more noticeable description for potential witnesses imo.

 

[justicepeace]

The very reason the police may have held back on sharing those images earlier could be because of the discrepancies in the colour of the clothing to the reality due to poor picture quality etc. I really don’t know but for me it’s accurate JMO

Much easier would be a red outfit, yellow outfit etc. black/navy are so close in colour when not loooking at them with the naked eye. I’m sure there is some science/trick of the eye reasoning behind.

 

[ayrshireguy]

But then if they didn't see NB on it, how could they possibly use that same reasoning to rule out a 3rd party?

Either they didn't see her, in which case they also might not have seen a 3rd party or they did see her, in which case it's a bit strange they haven't released any images.

ETA: I still feel the river theory is likely, but there does appear to be a lack of getting proper information out there. Especially when they first said they were treating it as a missing person case

Yea, good point.

 

[SpursGyal]

But gilet means sleeveless. This photo is a below-knee parka coat, not waist-length as police said. An ankle-length gilet would be far more noticeable description for potential witnesses imo.

She is wearing a gilet over the coat. As per LE Description.

 

[Tanzanite]

I'm really confused why people are so focused on the gilet.

For my part, because it was instrumental in constructing my thinking of how likely it was that NB had entered the water, and why.

An 'ankle-length gilet' could have caused NB to fall into the water (standing on the hem, as previously mentioned)
It could be the difference between being able to scramble out of the water or not
It could make a difference to how concealed NB would be in the water

And of course, witnesses and describing NB as wearing an ankle length garment. It's quite specific. I see mums wearing them at the kid's football matches every weekend. They look quite different - IME - to a 'normal' hip/knee length garment.

It obviously doesn't change a jot about what has actually happened to NB, but there are several reasons that people might focus on this particular aspect. The other clothing details, not so much.

 

[Beginnersleuth]

Hi, does anyone know how to find a Tv news segment? I think (tho not 100% sure) it was live on sky news on Friday, was a male interviewer, I think white skinned with dark hair, quite tall, and he was interviewing members of the public who were around on Friday, holding placards and helping the search. <modsnip> I think it was Friday afternoon either not long before or not long after the press conference,
Did anyone else see it?