Found Deceased UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #7

[crazychris]

Excellent point.

If I'm following this correctly, if NB fell in the river she could now possibly be in the estuary or even out to sea?

Not according to the expert who says it's impossible that she'd reach the sea. Surely she'd be trapped on top of the weir?

 

[Night Shift]

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He says that the river beyond the weir is shallow and rocky and it would be difficult for a body to pass that area. He’s seen it, we haven’t.

I'm familiar with that area. It's tidal downstream of the weir. The depth varies a lot because of that.

 

[SpursGyal]

Kitty said images in MSM

This is a post from Facebook.

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This is a post from the missing persons SM account, which is allowed as per TOS.

 

[cottonweaver]

If NB is not found in the river then I wonder what the police will do? Go back to the beginning and start again or double down.

I wonder why so many were told it would be such a fast process?

from the presser today:

'We'll stop searching the river when all the national expert advice and our own staff confirm to us that there is nothing further to be gained by doing that. However, that does not mean that other enquiries might not continue. So I've mentioned already that the search has extended as far as the sea, Morecambe Bay, for those who know it, is a very wide bay and the area from Knott End towards Morecambe is particularly rural, so there will be other elements that will remain being searched. People might not see the river itself being searched, but the enquiry team continues to work really diligently far into the evening every single day to try and close anything else off


Our work around the search of the river and the riverbank continues and this includes many pieces of different technical equipment, including sonar, pole cameras, drones, underwater drones, and so on, as well as specialist dogs. As I said on Friday, the river is a complex area to search it's not a still water, it's a fast flowing, moving water that is tidal in parts and, as acknowledged by some of the many national search advisors and experts that we've been consulting throughout, this makes it particularly complex.

We have already discounted particular areas of the river but as they are tidal, we have re- searched them to ensure that nothing has been washed back into those search areas. This is why you may see some areas already searched being re-searched, for no other reason than it is tidal.
We have 6 people searching the riverbanks every day. These are specially trained search officers who are very experienced, both in missing people enquiries and in other enquiries, who are systematically and methodically searching the riverbank and the open ground. We also have a number of divers from the regional underwater search unit and they are working with SGI and the other partners that I have mentioned to search the river itself.

It is 12 days since Nicola's been missing, and clearly a 15 kilometre stretch of the river is a complex, difficult and moving body of water to search. I do believe that we will find Nicola, but nature is a powerful force, changes our parameters constantly

if Nicola's entered the water and got into distress and ended up on the riverbank, struggling to cope with the fast moving water, then clearly the riverbank, the immediate riverbanks, have been our main area of search, but as I think I said last Friday, we've searched within a mile radius of the point that she last went missing and the publicity has been such now that I think local anglers, wildfowlers, people enjoying the countryside, dog walkers, local residents, people who work in the local area, will be very, very aware of Nicola's description, of this case, of all the publicity that's been generated and will be looking out in those wider areas.'

Found Deceased - UK - Nicola Bulley Last Seen Walking Dog Near River - St Michaels on Wyre (Lancashire) #7

No. I should apologise here. I am new to this forum and I failed to add IMO after the statement. I have no knowledge about this whatsoever and my suggestion the dog harness may have been in the River was speculation. Sorry if it appeared to be factual. I did not intend this and will be more...

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[Kassanddra]

So if she is in the water and materialises maybe by chance (rather than an active search) it will be shocking for member of public who discovers this.
It could be that she comes to surface at some point in the following weeks.
I feel for person who discovers NB

Edited for spell check

 

[tedtink]

That’s right re fishing/anglers, the water right beside the bench is called ‘The Deep Hole’.

4 meters deep at that point according to PF on GB News this evening @6mins

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623016479984693253

 

[kittythehare]

Kitty said images in MSM

This is a post from Facebook.

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MSM use her facebook photos. Her fB profile is permitted here.
I'm not sure what you are saying here but there are many photos of Nicola's dog wet in the park having enjoyed a swim.
Here's one . Nicola Bulley’s friends beg cops to explore ‘other avenues’ if they don’t find missing mum in river
Here's another Nicola Bulley's dog could crack mystery and lead cops to missing mum using scent

Why did Nicola Bulley take her dog's harness off?

The mother of two was last seen walking her springer spaniel Willow near the River Wyre in St Michael's on Wyre, Lancashire, last Friday morning.

www.dailymail.co.uk

If you google you will find many.

Edited to add links.

 

[Truthfinder01]

I’m one of few , it seems, that don’t believe she had a tragic accident falling in the river. I believe foul play occurred.
One of my key reasons is because I’m a spaniel walker, springers and cockers for many years by a river. Our dogs are in and out of water. Regular dog walkers don’t venture near the riverside .. we just walk and the dogs know what they’re doing. If she’d only had the dog a week or two and watched it’s every move then yes.. possibly an accident.
Also, I think there was stuff going on in her life what with new business. Anyway, time will tell. One things for sure, I hope she’s found soon. If she’s in the river then there’s nothing more can be done for her except to locate her. If she isn’t, then there’s a lot to be worked on.

I am with you on this, hopeful the police are working on other possible scenarios in the background.

 

[PS8800]

Yes, but while it’s called Deep Hole, that doesn’t give any information about the depth.

These aren’t all named on a factual description…

The “danger deep water” sign pinned to the tree by the bench says enough for me, along with the anglers description. I think its safe to say it is deep.

Yes, but while it’s called Deep Hole, that doesn’t give any information about the depth.

These aren’t all named on a factual description…

 

[russeverton]

I’m still on the fence between foul play and accident. If it’s foul play, the time window seems very small, unless the witness(es) are unreliable/fabricating the times to suit their purpose (if they were involved somehow). JMO.

I was convinced she did not enter the water there is no proof or reason but that can be said for all other alternatives. Just bizarre I really hope shes alive and well somewhere for kids sake

 

[karakuchi]

This is a post from the missing persons SM account, which is allowed as per TOS.

Great!
In that case, let's all take a look at this recent set posted 29 November 2022.
Nicola walks the exact route where she was last seen missing, all the way to the weir
Oh and what's that... Willow is wearing her harness...

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[SpursGyal]

4 meters deep at that point according to PF on GB News this evening.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1623016479984693253

Thanks Ted! That’s what I couldn’t find.

 

[SuzyQ70]

Yes, I have my suspicions too but I won't allude them.

Me too, hopefully we will find out soon enough.

 

[MusicalMonkey]

Yes, but while it’s called Deep Hole, that doesn’t give any information about the depth.

These aren’t all named on a factual description…

Yep. Just like Toad in the Hole.

 

[Willowy]

I really hope the SGI team get a chance to search the body of water at Rowanwater (picture attached)
The last time a real person saw Nicola, she was in the top field by this body of water.


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Does this body of water connect to the river? I cant see that it does.

 

[wackyw]

I've just been searching for the water temp in the River Wyre, to no avail. Has this been mentioned on this thread?

Don't know but I was up there for a while and say a week beforehand the temps got down to -6 overnight near Garstang, and the higher fells in the catchment area were covered in snow for maybe a week.

 

[cottonweaver]

Not according to the expert who says it's impossible that she'd reach the sea. Surely she'd be trapped on top of the weir?

at the presser, the Super said ' that the search has extended as far as the sea' so maybe they've got the wrong experts?
( Have just linked to the transcript a minute ago)

 

[Fishwick]

Not according to the expert who says it's impossible that she'd reach the sea. Surely she'd be trapped on top of the weir?

He also said he’d search the river in a day, that she is in the river and not in the river, that bodies don’t move much (many examples where they do). Think we can stop taking his word as gospel (but credit for searching).

 

[Beginnersleuth]

If there is no evidence of NB leaving the area near the bench on foot, and her dog certainly stayed there when it would surely have followed, then I can see only two scenarios. Either she left the scene in the water or on the water. Asking those with local knowledge if people use small boats on this stretch. I've seen a few search boats on various stretches of the river, but how well used by boats of any description, if at all, is the stretch near the bench?

What evidence would prove she left the area on foot? I’m asking because I genuinely don’t know rather than being sarcastic!
If no struggle and walking normally I don’t think would leave any exciting foot prints but I guess sniffer dogs would be able to follow - if they were brought in soon enough? If NB not struggling would there be evidence of leaving on foot? Except cctv or eye witness accounts?

 

[Maclane]

My theory is she had a medical episode such as low blood pressure and fainted, put her phone down before passing out, rolled down the bank and quickly into deep trouble. Its plausible to me that a water loving dog would still not jump into a cold river from a steep bank. The summer photos are a different scenario entirely.
And rivers are just very difficult to search.