GUILTY UK - Nicole Smallman, 27 & Bibaa Henry 46, Archdeacon's daughters, murdered London park, 7 June 2020

[Alyce]

Is this the Valley Drive entrance ?

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[dotr]

Many articles repeat the information that a 36 yr old man was arrested and then released, is this a hint that he is a suspect but LE have no further evidence? Would he not have obvious wounds if he was in fact involved? speculation, imo.

June 15 2020 rbbm.
Evidence that could help catch killer of two sisters 'may have been thrown away'
''Police used DNA to rule out anyone who knew the pair and the suspect’s blood does not appear to match any on the national database.

Asked if he was worried the killer might strike again, Det Chief Insp Simon Harding said: “We always have a fear of what might happen but we are working around the clock.”

"I want to reassure them that officers have been carrying out extra patrols in the area since last Friday and local residents can expect to see this continue over coming days, but of course it's timely to remind people to be vigilant, particularly after dark in parks and opens areas and report anything suspicious to us immediately."

''A 36-year-old man arrested in south London on suspicion of murder has been released with no further action.''

 

[Alyce]

15min drone footage of Fryent Park.

A bit random.but cert gives a good sense of scale and also wider setting.

No detail on individual locations or direction within the Park, but I did wonder if the area at @5.20 could be the crime site? It appears elevated and the trees look similar layout to the MSM crime tent shots? What do you think?

Very helpful footage. That elevated area is about 370 metres from Valley Drive entrance ( if I've got the entrance correct ) which would match with the report about the spot being a 5 minute walk from the entrance.

 

[Tortoise]

Is this the Valley Drive entrance ?

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I hope so. I've counted up about 4 or 5 houses with cctv cameras whichever direction they went.

 

[Alyce]

Just "jumping" in here, as a happy walker in parks and the like, always felt safe, this case is concerning to me.....I'm still confused about the pictures of the tents, taken from different angles....(it looks like they were not found together, even saddening the case more) There is an obvious building I don't seem to find/see on the drone flight. Not knowing the area at all I find it hard to get a "feel" where they were found. Maybe it's not that important at all, its just a thing that bothers me.

The tents do seem to indicate that - but I thought the report from the passer by said that they were lying with the backpack between them. Which makes me think close together, not a wide space between them.



Neighbour quote, regarding passer by

It was not clear they were injured or anything. She said she just saw the two girls lying on the floor and there was a backpack next to them.

Woman saw bodies of murdered sisters before police found them - 247 News Around The World

 

[RobinCAL]

I do find it odd the space between the sisters and the passer-by stating she thought they were sleeping; I mean I guess people can sleep apart but she must've been a distance away to not notice the blood?

I really hope that is the entrance because those CCTV seem hopeful.

 

[dotr]

I do find it odd the space between the sisters and the passer-by stating she thought they were sleeping; I mean I guess people can sleep apart but she must've been a distance away to not notice the blood?

I really hope that is the entrance because those CCTV seem hopeful.

Maybe a blanket or something was thrown on top of the women? speculation, imo.

 

[RobinCAL]

I could see that being the case as well @dotr

 

[Alyce]

Forensics coming out of the park, does look like Valley Drive - comparing it to the googlemap link above

 

[Alyce]

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Salmon St/Slough Lane was the entrance used by the group.

 

[RobinCAL]

Tributes paid to Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman murdered in Fryent Country Park

 

[RobinCAL]

'We are there with you': Prayers for loving mum as police hunt daughters’ killer

 

[Bit of hope]

'We are there with you': Prayers for loving mum as police hunt daughters’ killer

"Nicole Smallman, 27, and Bibaa Henry, 46, died after being attacked by a stranger in a Wembley park on June 12.

Two days earlier, they had been celebrating Bibaa’s birthday with a group of friends and family."

Two days? Is this accurate? I don't think so. I thought they were celebrating in the park on saturday night until approx. 00:30 am (last friends/familymembers left) and found on sunday, the next day.

Two women found dead in north-west London park

"Police were called to Fryent Country Park on Slough Lane in Wembley shortly after 1 pm on Sunday to reports that two women had been found unresponsive"

Also it was on Sunday June 7. June 12 was a Friday

What a messy news article. I know....The message is of course that people are trying to comfort the women's mom what is a good thing considering the horrendous circumstances, but still.

Edited to add......I'm very confused right now reading some stuff back. They were celebrating on Friday??? And found on Sunday???? Jawdropping!!! And nobody saw their bodies, a whole Saturday??!! They must have been covered in blood. I can immagine if you see somebody lying somewhere and it's dark, you could think they were sleeping and you wouldn't see the blood, but during daylight?

 

[RobinCAL]

@Bit of hope The party started at about 7pm on Friday and with everyone leaving by midnight or a little after. Then it has been reported that the sisters died in between half 12 - 3am. The sisters were reported missing on Saturday. They were seen by a passer-by on Saturday who thought they were sleeping and then they were found a little after 1pm on Sunday.

I hope that clears it up, but yes I've always found it odd about how long it took for the sisters to be found.

 

[Bit of hope]

@Bit of hope The party started at about 7pm on Friday and with everyone leaving by midnight or a little after. Then it has been reported that the sisters died in between half 12 - 3am. The sisters were reported missing on Saturday. They were seen by a passer-by on Saturday who thought they were sleeping and then they were found a little after 1pm on Sunday.

I hope that clears it up, but yes I've always found it odd about how long it took for the sisters to be found.

Thank you very much for explaining. I think this says al lot about in what kind of world we are living nowadays...how sad.

 

[Bit of hope]

I still wonder why the tents were so far apart...Somebody upthread gave a good possible explenation for that....one of the sisters ran for her live...but that would mean there were two seperate women "so called sleeping" alone in a park and people consider that "normal"? ....speculation off course.

 

[Alyce]

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Salmon St/Slough Lane was the entrance used by the group.

Just adding an update here.
I am not sure, now, whether or not this was the entrance used by the group. It was definitely the entrance used by the police, as seen from the photos in msm.
But all references to where the group were gathered give a location based on a 5 minute walk from the Valley Drive entrance. ( about 400 metres ).

 

[RobinCAL]

Just MOO, but what if one sister was sleeping and attacked - the other sister woke up and ran and that's why she's so far away. But this passerby story has always left a bitter taste in my mouth. Surely there was blood but maybe the woman just minded her own business, unfortunately.

 

[Alyce]

I still wonder why the tents where so far apart...Somebody upthread gave a good possible explenation for that....one of the sisters ran for her live...but that would mean there were two woman "so called sleeping" alone in a park and people consider that "normal"? ....speculation off course.

I am not sure that the tents mark the places where the two sisters were found. The passer by, who thought they were sleeping, says that she saw them both - with a backpack beside them. If they were that far apart, I think she would have worded it differently.

 

[Bit of hope]

I am not sure that the tents mark the places where the two sisters were found. The passer by, who thought they were sleeping, says that she saw them both - with a backpack beside them. If they were that far apart, I think she would have worded it differently.

Yes, I know supposedly somebody saw them, if this story is true. I don't know the motions in the UK, could they have put up a tent for "other evidence", instead of a body?