GUILTY UK - Nicole Smallman, 27 & Bibaa Henry 46, Archdeacon's daughters, murdered London park, 7 June 2020

[Alyce]

Yes, I know supposedly somebody saw them, if this story is true. I don't know the motions in the UK, could they have put up a tent for "other evidence", instead of a body?

Yes, I think that is very possible, the second tent could have been covering other evidence that had been found a short distance away from the sisters. Or it could have been the back up tent - a place to store evidence found at the primary site.

 

[Cryptic]

I think the phraseology is what is causing problems, as it states 'unknown' to the Sisters, rather than 'someone who was at the party'. If the Police wanted to say they had excluded all at the Party, why wouldnt they just say that? )

Maybe the terms "people at the party" and "people known to the victims" are broad.

For example, the party could have started out some what small, then grew as friends of friends and some others just wandered in from the neighborhood.

Likewise, the degree of familiarity the victims had with the the guests could start out very high and dwindle to "might have seen him before" as the night went on.

Anecdotally, weddings in some rural Wisconsin counties can balloon from a number of officially invited guests to a far larger number of people who come and go in varying degrees of sobriety.

Though murders are unheard of, fights are not. If there were to be a serious crime at such a wedding, the definition of "guest" and the question of "familiarity" could get complex.

 

[dotr]

Do they keep washroom facilities open at the park?
Wondering if one sister slipped off for a little visit in the bushes and was ambushed.
Maybe her screams caused her sister to run towards her, but it was too late and the other sister was then attacked too?
Complete speculation, imo.

 

[Wowno17]

Do they keep washroom facilities open at the park?
Wondering if one sister slipped off for a little visit in the bushes and was ambushed.
Maybe her screams caused her sister to run towards her, but it was too late and the other sister was then attacked too?
Complete speculation, imo.

No there wouldn't have been washrooms / toilets open at that time in a park in London.

 

[LadyL]

15min drone footage of Fryent Park.

A bit random.but cert gives a good sense of scale and also wider setting.

No detail on individual locations or direction within the Park, but I did wonder if the area at @5.20 could be the crime site? It appears elevated and the trees look similar layout to the MSM crime tent shots? What do you think?

wow it looks vast and nothing there ... no benches, no portapotties - just grass & trees ... unless the drone operator did not get close enough where there might have been benches or bathrooms

 

[asmi106082]

I thought in earlier articles I read that the park has been used more recently for people who were homeless or “rough sleeping”?? I think there are tents scattered throughout the park. Or am I mixing this case up with another?
MOO.

 

[Kitkat28]

Most public loos in the U.K. are still closed due to COVID-19 anyway so that would probably be a moot point.

Was this area of the park well known by the locals as an area where homeless people slept? If so, it could be a reason that no one paid too much attention.

 

[Alyce]

Do they keep washroom facilities open at the park?
Wondering if one sister slipped off for a little visit in the bushes and was ambushed.
Maybe her screams caused her sister to run towards her, but it was too late and the other sister was then attacked too?
Complete speculation, imo.

Good point and could explain how one person ( possibly ) was able to attack both sisters, if they were separated.

 

[Alyce]

Most public loos in the U.K. are still closed due to COVID-19 anyway so that would probably be a moot point.

Was this area of the park well known by the locals as an area where homeless people slept? If so, it could be a reason that no one paid too much attention.

It was mentioned by the lady who saw the sisters on the Saturday that she thought they might be rough sleepers. Also there was a comment in MSM, I will find and link it, about the park being used for gatherings of groups and some staying overnight.

 

[Alyce]

My neighbour saw the two girls on Saturday, but she thought they were rough sleepers.

There used to be a couple of people sleeping in the bushes and there used to be tents.

Every night when the weather is okay there are always groups of young men and women up there drinking and smoking, especially since the lockdown.

"Other times you see groups up there even at 11pm or at midnight.

Bodies of sisters spotted in Wembley park but passersby thought they were asleep




There used to be a couple of people sleeping in the bushes and there used to be tents.

"Eastern Europeans tend to sleep there, but now it is much less since they cleared it up last year."

Walker saw bodies of 'murdered' sisters in park but thought they were asleep

 

[Alyce]

Wider view of the park and tents

 

[RobinCAL]

I just would like to know 100% if the tents are where the two bodies were found. Or if there was significant evidence in one of them for a tent to be placed and if so, what evidence? Or if it's like someone mentioned, a secondary tent for evidence from the first tent; however, you would think they would be closer together if it was just a secondary tent.

 

[RobinCAL]

"When I was there on Sunday, I heard another person waiting to speak to the police and they said they had a knife.
"I have found a couple of knives there myself, but that was more towards the woods."

I wonder if the knife that was used was just at the scene of the attack - either from the party or like people have mentioned; just around the place. If we think the attacker was unknown to them, maybe it was an argument that got out of hand and then the knife was there compared to somebody coming into the park with a knife with the intent on attacking someone.

Just my personal ramblings after having no new news for days.

 

[Alyce]

I just would like to know 100% if the tents are where the two bodies were found. Or if there was significant evidence in one of them for a tent to be placed and if so, what evidence? Or if it's like someone mentioned, a secondary tent for evidence from the first tent; however, you would think they would be closer together if it was just a secondary tent.

Just my assumptions here -
If the tent on the right was where the two sisters were found, this could fit with the passer by thinking they were sleeping. It wouldn't look too odd, two people lying under a tree.
Whereas, if they were located where the tent on the left is, they would stand out and every person walking along the adjacent path would walk within feet of them and surely someone would have raised the alarm before Sunday.
So, assuming the left side tent was the back up tent to hold evidence and SOCO kit, then it makes sense that it is next to the path. Easy for SOCO to access by following the pathway route, rather than across the grass and potentially destroying evidence. But, if this is the case,then why not put it closer to Salmon St exit - which would be further down the pathway ( on the right side of the pic ).

So I am back to thinking that both tents are significant as evidence locations.

 

[RobinCAL]

UK news in brief

Nothing new as such - just wanted to highlight this

"An initial post-mortem revealed that they had both suffered multiple stab wounds."

 

[Mrs Marple]

There's so much not being said here.

 

[Mellowmelly]

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Devastated family pay tribute to sisters fatally stabbed in London park

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Police believe Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry were killed by a stranger during a birthday celebration in Fryent Country Park in Wembley on June 5.

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The family of two sisters stabbed to death in a London park have spoken of the “devastating impact” of their loss as police continue to hunt for their killer.

Police investigating the “incredibly unusual” deaths of Nicole Smallman, 27, and Bibaa Henry, 46, have received more than 100 calls from the public following an appeal for information.

Detectives believe the sisters were killed by a stranger in Fryent Country Park, off Slough Lane, in Wembley, north-west London, after meeting friends there on June 5 to celebrate Ms Henry’s birthday.

The grief we feel is palpable, our beautiful and talented daughters gone

Family of Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman

In a statement released by the Metropolitan Police, the parents of the two sisters said: “The greatest fear of any parent is that they will outlive their children.

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“What makes our situation unique is that two adored sisters were murdered together on the same night.

“The grief we feel is palpable, our beautiful and talented daughters gone.”

They said that, despite a large age gap, the sisters shared many of the same interests, including the arts.

Ms Henry, from Brent in north-west London, was an “exceptional” senior social worker and “a passionate advocate for safeguarding vulnerable children and families”.

Her family said that before she qualified she would drive disabled children to their activities, “singing as they drove along”.

She loved her family, including her father, a former amateur boxing champion and building contracting company owner, and mother, who trained as a teacher and to become a priest.

“Bibaa was just barely five foot but she had the heart of a lion and a smile that would put Blackpool Illuminations to shame,” her family said.

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Flowers at an entrance to Fryent Country Park, in Wembley, north-west London, where sisters Bibaa Henry and Nicole Smallman were murdered (Dominic Lipinski/PA)

Ms Smallman, from Harrow in north-west London, was the youngest of three sisters, described as someone who “saw beauty in everything” and had a “very calm and positive attitude towards most things in life”.

Her family said she was “a strong advocate for humanitarian causes and saving our planet” as well as an “amazing photographer, actor and singer” with a “silky smooth” voice.

“Friends and family all agree she was beautiful both inside and out,” her family said.

They added: “Bibaa and Nicole were sisters whose untimely deaths we will spend the rest of our lives trying to come to terms with.

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“The tributes for our girls keep flooding in; it has been comforting, heartbreaking and at times overwhelming. Faith and prayer is keeping us going. I’m not sure how we’d get through this without it.”

Their statement continued: “The pain we feel as a family is so deep no words can express how we are feeling.

“This has had a devastating impact on our lives and each day gets worse to think our daughters, Bibaa and Nicole, are not with us and that they have been brutally killed by someone.”

Police have released two photos of the victims taken prior to the murders to help with their appeal for information to track down their attacker – now confirmed to be male.

The suspect is thought to have suffered a “significant injury” during the incident and anyone who knows someone in the area with an unexplained injury, particularly to their hands, has been asked to inform police.

It is believed the suspect left the park via its Valley Drive entrance, with the public also being asked if they saw someone acting suspiciously in that area on the evening of June 5 and in the early hours of June 6.

Searches of the scene are continuing, but police have found items belonging to the sisters, including recovering their mobile phones from a pond.

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Police said the pair were in “good spirits” and “taking selfie pictures, listening to music and dancing with fairy lights” until at least 1.13am on June 6.

People had left their celebration throughout the evening, with the sisters ending up alone in the park by around 12.30am.

Their last contact with friends and family was about 1.05am, police said.

The bodies of the two women were found next to each other shortly after 1pm on June 7, with a post-mortem examination later revealing that they both died from multiple stab wounds.

Appealing for information, Detective Chief Inspector Simon Harding, who is leading the double murder investigation, said the “much-loved sisters” were “surrounded by friends and family and it’s unimaginable what they are going through”.

“For their sake and the sake of the wider community we need to identify and apprehend the suspect as soon as possible. And we need help from the public to do that.”

He previously said detectives “always have a fear” that the murderer could strike again.

North West Borough commander Roy Smith, said extra resources have been brought in to help from across the Metropolitan Police, including additional detectives to help “leave no stone unturned”.

A 36-year-old man arrested in south London on suspicion of murder was released with no further action.

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[MissUnderstood]

How are they so sure it was a stranger? They started saying this quite early on. What did they find to make that statement so soon? I can’t recall reading a case where that has been stated so so early into the investigation.
MOO

 

[RobinCAL]

Sisters' murders 'have had devastating impact'

"A 36-year-old man arrested in south London on suspicion of murder was released with no further action."

This man is always mentioned.

 

[Alyce]

snipped from Mellowmelly post above


Police said the pair were in “good spirits” and “taking selfie pictures, listening to music and dancing with fairy lights” until at least 1.13am on June 6.

People had left their celebration throughout the evening, with the sisters ending up alone in the park by around 12.30am.

Their last contact with friends and family was about 1.05am, police said.