GUILTY UK - Nicole Smallman, 27 & Bibaa Henry 46, Archdeacon's daughters, murdered London park, 7 June 2020

[dotr]

They might want to check where the Reading stabber was that weekend.

Posted link on this thread too..
UK - Mass stabbing in Reading 20 June 2020

UK security concerns mount after Reading attack | DW | 22.06.2020
''British Interior Minister Priti Patel on Monday warned that the threat from lone attackers was on the rise in the UK.

Her comments came two days after a man stabbed three people to death at a park in the southern English city of Reading. Authorities labeled the incident as a terror attack.

"The terrorist threat that we face is complex, diverse, and rapidly changing. It is clear that the threat posed by lone actors is growing," Patel told lawmakers in parliament.''

 

[jiminy]

Are there extra police patrols in the area and stuff?

I'm having trouble with the ' random stranger' aspect of this. I don't understand how this was stated as certainty so soon after the bodies were discovered. As we're often reminded, it's not CSI and both sisters are likely to have had wide social circles.

 

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[Sarahlou]

It puzzles me why the attacker tried to get rid of any evidence. His DNA was all over the scene anyway from his blood. This is a strange case.

 

[Mrs Marple]

It puzzles me why the attacker tried to get rid of any evidence. His DNA was all over the scene anyway from his blood. This is a strange case.

Well, they might be below average intelligence, or they may have been high, or not on their anti psychotic meds.

 

[dotr]

It puzzles me why the attacker tried to get rid of any evidence. His DNA was all over the scene anyway from his blood. This is a strange case.

Thoughts for now.. speculation, imo.
-Maybe trying to hide things to give himself enough time to get away before the ghastly scene comes to light, plus does not care about his dna because he knows he is not in the system and he possibly lives outside the UK?

-Very young person, underage? knows to hide stuff, but ignorant about dna?

-Crazy, crazy person doing random things that only make sense to himself?

 

[Skigh]

The houses around the exit to the park had, I think ,cctv. The street appeared to have quite affluent houses which could also have had surveillance technology.So if the murderer went that way the police must have images of him.

 

[Cocovenus]

Some interesting local information on this open Facebook group What's Happening in Kingsbury, Queensbury, Edgware & Surrounding Areas especially in relation to helicopter/police activity at the site

 

[RobinCAL]

Some interesting local information on this open Facebook group What's Happening in Kingsbury, Queensbury, Edgware & Surrounding Areas especially in relation to helicopter/police activity at the site

The rumours were squashed and a police statement was released. But it seems like they are still actively searching, which I'm so glad to see.

 

[Al Ka]

Some interesting local information on this open Facebook group What's Happening in Kingsbury, Queensbury, Edgware & Surrounding Areas especially in relation to helicopter/police activity at the site

Thank you for the link, quite interesting helicopter flying on top and around that park for quite some time at midnight and also police presence.

Hopefully there will be some update very soon on this case.

Edit to add: Scrolling farther on that FB page it seems helicopters were there around the park also on Friday 19 June.

 

[dotr]

Pictured: Father, 25, blasted to death with a shotgun in leafy London suburb | Daily Mail Online
23 June 2020
rbbm.
WHERE THE 54 MURDERS IN LONDON DURING 2020 HAVE BEEN COMMITTED
# NAME AGE DATE INCIDENT TIME STREET LOCATION
1 William Algar 53 Jan-03 4.57pm Nowell Road Barnes
2 Takieddine Boudhane 30 Jan-03 6.50pm Charteris Road Finsbury Park
3 Krasimir Kartikov 60 Jan-13 8.50am Whitehorse Road Croydon
4 Harinder Kumar 22 Jan-19 7.38pm Elmstead Road Seven Kings
5 Narinder Singh 26 Jan-19 7.38pm Elmstead Road Seven Kings
6 Baljit Singh 34 Jan-19 7.38pm Elmstead Road Seven Kings
7 Tahereh Pirali-Dashti 40 Jan-20 11.50am Henlys Corner Barnet
8 Beverley Denahy 61 Jan-22 11.35pm Waverley Avenue Chingford
9 Unnamed man 60s Jan-24 11.29pm Mount Pleasant Lane Clapton
10 Louis Johnson 16 Jan-27 4.45pm East Croydon station Croydon
11 Eraj Seifi 46 Jan-29 2.44pm Bravington Road Queens Park
12 Unnamed man 33 Feb-12 3.20pm High Road North Finchley
13 James Dowdell 54 Feb-17 6.50pm St Marks Grove Chelsea
14 Sundeep Ghuman 36 Feb-18 8.00pm HMP Belmarsh Thamesmead
15 Lennox Nigel Alcendor 42 Feb-21 6.45am Anson Road Cricklewood
16 Li-Qing Wang 35 Feb-25 11.52am Magnolia Close Waltham Forest
17 Tyler Roye 24 Feb-26 0.15am Stroud Green Way Croydon
18 Archie Beston 19 Feb-29 3.40am Wood Street Kingston
19 Asante Campbell 24 Feb-29 9.00pm Parson Street Hendon
20 Shanur Ahmed 16 Mar-03 8.38am Atlantis Avenue Newham
21 Ricardo Fuller 24 Mar-07 5.05am Ilford High Road Ilford
22 Vanita Nowell 68 Mar-08 6.30am Blakes Road Southwark
23 Damani Mauge 17 Mar-08 8.30pm Whitehorse Lane Croydon
24 Cameron Murfitt 18 Mar-15 3.30pm Woolwich Common Greenwich
25 Tracey Kidd 57 Mar-17 4.45pm Charnwood Street Hackney
26 Shadika Mohsin Patel 40 Mar-19 12.45am Barking Road Newham
27 Abdullahi Mahmoud 29 Mar-19 4.35pm Hertford Road Enfield
28 Stefan Melnyk 54 Mar-22 12.50pm Salisbury Street Acton
29 Kelly Stewart 41 Mar-26 3.09pm Barking Road Barking
30 Tomas Macionis 35 Mar-31 10.55pm Alexandra Road Walthamstow
31 Sonia Teresa Burton Calvi 56 Apr-01 4.00pm Dorset Road Stockwell
32 Edgar Aguilera Daza 59 Apr-01 4.00pm Dorset Road Stockwell
33 Maryan Ismail 57 Apr-06 6.04pm Plevna Road Edmonton
34 Ralph Gibson 42 Apr-15 5.35pm Huntingfield Road Putney
35 Denise Michelle Keane-Barnett-Simmons 26 Apr-16 2.15am Alric Avenue Brent
36 Mark Baker 62 Apr-19 11.57pm Peacock Close Walthamstow
37 Jay John 27 Apr-25 12.25pm Trinity Close Hackney
38 Baljit Singh 37 Apr-25 10.56pm Station Road Hayes
39 Pavinya Nithiyakumar 1 Apr-26 5.30pm Aldborough Road North Ilford
40 Nigish Nithiyakumar 3 Apr-26 5.30pm Aldborough Road North Ilford
41 David Gomoh 24 Apr-26 10.25pm Freemasons Road Newham
42 Anthony Rooks 79 May-04 7.20pm Dalmeny Road Holloway
43 Yonas Haile 32 May-05 7.50pm Fulham Palace Road Hammersmith
44 Francois Kablan 19 May-13 5.28pm Great Dover Street Southwark
45 Jemal Ebrahim 23 May-13 8.13pm Russell Road Haringey
46 Chad Gordon 27 May-18 8.22pm Wiltshire Gardens Haringey
47 Oluwamayowa Adeymi 21 Jun-05 11.30pm Brackenfield Close Hackney
48 Nicole Smallman 27 Jun-07 1.08pm Slough Lane Wembley
49 Bibaa Henry 46 Jun-07 1.08pm Slough Lane Wembley
50 Alexander Kareem 20 Jun-08 0.40am Askew Road Shepherd's Bush
51 Unnamed woman 50s Jun-10 9.00pm Lewisham Way Lewisham
52 Unnamed man 48 Jun-13 11.58pm Waldegrave Road Hornsey
53 Kyle Kelson 25 Jun-19 1.12am Brocks Drive North Cheam
54 Unnamed man 41 Jun-19 4.18pm The Parade Bexley

Where the 54 murders across the capital this year have happened

 

[Bit of hope]

Looking at the map...I tried to find something what looks like a pattern. Starting with murders "around" the area where the sisters were killed. (I don't know London, so I have no idea how far this places are from each other). I used the numbers from the map Dotr posted.

11. Eraj Seifi was found shot on Bravington Road near Queen's Park Tube . A 46-year-old man died in hospital over a week after being shot in the head. (Male/shot)
15. Lennox Nigel Alcendor, 42, was found in Anson Road, with a knife wound to his neck (Male/fatally stabbed in the neck)
35. Denise Michelle Keane-Barnett-Simmons, 36, was found seriously injured after emergency services were called to a house fire in Alric Avenue, Stonebridge, Brent (Female, burns and inhalation of fumes)
7. Tahereh Pirali-Dashti, 40, died in hospital on 10 April after suffering serious injuries in a road traffic collision (Male/accident)
19. Asante Campbell, 24, was found stabbed in a silver VW Polo after it collided with another vehicle in Parson Street, Hendon, at around 9pm on 29 February. He died in hospital later that evening. Detectives believe he was attacked in a car park in Stratford Road. (Male/knife attack)

Nicole and Bibaa, females, both fatally stabbed.

Homicide Victims in London in 2020 • murdermap

So far I don't see a "real" pattern in the knife killings.

 

[Spyder84]

There isn't a pattern, some of those incidents have happened locally to me and what I know is that something had been brewing locally and it's more to do with gang violence then anything else and is seemingly still on going.
I'm inclined to agree that the person who did this may be mentally ill, and if the police have his DNA then they would know by now if he was known to them or not and if he is not known to the police then this is a pretty huge escalation in someone who does not have mental health issues.

 

[Legally Bland]

Eugh.

Two Metropolitan police officers have been arrested after a photograph was allegedly taken of the bodies of murdered sisters in a London park, the Guardian has learned.

[...]

A criminal inquiry is under way into an “inappropriate” photo taken at the murder scene, and allegedly sent to a group of people who included members of the public.

Two Met police officers arrested over photo of murdered sisters

 

[dotr]

Eugh.

Two Metropolitan police officers have been arrested after a photograph was allegedly taken of the bodies of murdered sisters in a London park, the Guardian has learned.

[...]

A criminal inquiry is under way into an “inappropriate” photo taken at the murder scene, and allegedly sent to a group of people who included members of the public.

Two Met police officers arrested over photo of murdered sisters

How strange, if this is not a usual problem (LE allegedly taking and sending these type of pics) why would they do it in this particular murder investigation?

 

[RobinCAL]

That's a very good question @dotr , a disturbing one but yes, that raises a good point. Horrible people!

 

[RobinCAL]

"The IOPC is also separately investigating how the Met handled calls from worried family and friends of the sisters after they went missing."

PCs suspended over photos of double murder scene

 

[RobinCAL]

Police officers arrested over 'inappropriate' murder victim photos | Daily Mail Online

"Allegations pictures had been taken at the scene and shared with a 'small number' of others emerged last week. It was later claimed the officers took a selfie with the bodies of the women and shared it on WhatsApp."

 

[Sarahlou]

Police officers arrested over 'inappropriate' murder victim photos | Daily Mail Online

"Allegations pictures had been taken at the scene and shared with a 'small number' of others emerged last week. It was later claimed the officers took a selfie with the bodies of the women and shared it on WhatsApp."

Disgusting. They should be ashamed.

 

[Mellowmelly]

Police officers arrested over 'inappropriate' murder victim photos | Daily Mail Online

"Allegations pictures had been taken at the scene and shared with a 'small number' of others emerged last week. It was later claimed the officers took a selfie with the bodies of the women and shared it on WhatsApp."

How disrespectful, especially coming from people within a position of trust. So the sisters didnt get to keep their dignity even after they were found.