UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #15

[katydid23]

Dan O'Donoghue
@MrDanDonoghue
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1m

The medic says the bruising found 'could' be the result of CPR - asked whether it could be another impact injury, he says 'I don’t have enough to say that'

So he disagrees with the other 2 experts?

 

[Kemug]

If guilty, her preferred victims appear to be those who cannot speak out, and attacks are usually carried out when she is alone with them, so I'm not convinced we will hear anything, even if she's found guilty.

All IMO , if guilty.

If guilty, I wonder if she ever considered a career in care homes? - "untoward things" can happen there too. If guilty.

 

[LadyEdgeworth]

So he disagrees with the other 2 experts?

This is Child P, I don't think we were prev. told about his liver also having bruising. He agrees that Child O's bruising couldn't have been caused by CPR but it seems like P had smaller bruising so he's saying it's possible it could be from CPR for him.

Lucy Letby: Baby suffered liver injury akin to road traffic collision

A TRIPLET baby boy allegedly murdered by nurse Lucy Letby suffered a liver injury akin to a road traffic collision, her trial has heard.

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

Yesterday he said O's bruises were similar to one's seen in RTA

 

[Dotta]

If guilty, her preferred victims appear to be those who cannot speak out, and attacks are usually carried out when she is alone with them, so I'm not convinced we will hear anything, even if she's found guilty.

All IMO , if guilty.

If guilty

Maybe earlier red flags in behaviour were considered to be her general weirdness, geekeness or whatever it is called in English

JMO

 

[marynnu]

This is Child P, I don't think we were prev. told about his liver also having bruising. He agrees that Child O's bruising couldn't have been caused by CPR but it seems like P had smaller bruising so he's saying it's possible it could be from CPR for him.

Lucy Letby: Baby suffered liver injury akin to road traffic collision

A TRIPLET baby boy allegedly murdered by nurse Lucy Letby suffered a liver injury akin to a road traffic collision, her trial has heard.

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

Yesterday he said O's bruises were similar to one's seen in RTA

I think this helps strengthen his testimony re. Baby O, as he can't be accused of just agreeing with the other experts or going along with an assumption of deliberate harm.

 

[Dotta]

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I don't think my post was understood.

I meant she was not considered "lethal" as her quirks might have been seen as just weird.

Because I am certain that IF GUILTY there were red flags in abundance.

JMO

 

[Tortoise]

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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46s

Mr Myers is now taking the medic back over the cases he has reviewed, starting with Child A. Mr Myers quotes his review, in which Dr Marnerides said the cause of death was 'unascertained' and that there was no 'convincing indication the death was due to an unnatural cause'

Dan O'Donoghue

@MrDanDonoghue
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1m

Mr Myers asks the medic if he agrees, he responds: 'Yes, I wrote it'

 

[Tortoise]

C'mon Dan, it's not the time to leave us on a cliff edge.

 

[ColourPurple]

If guilty, I wonder if she ever considered a career in care homes? - "untoward things" can happen there too. If guilty.

If guilty, I think there's more of a risk of those potential victims fighting back or talking. IMO

 

[Dotta]

C'mon Dan, it's not the time to leave us on a cliff edge.

Mr Dan is always on post/at the front line
But is he appreciated?

 

[ColourPurple]

Mr Dan is always on post/at the front line
But is he appreciated?

The reporting has been so scarce at times I think I'd even appreciate an update from the court cleaner TBH

 

[marynnu]

If guilty, I wonder if she ever considered a career in care homes? - "untoward things" can happen there too. If guilty.

Well, she trained as a children's nurse so I'm guessing not!

 

[Dotta]

The reporting has been so scarce at times I think I'd even appreciate an update from the court cleaner TBH

And yet, all here are hanging on every word of Mr Dan haha

He is the only one there to tweet.
I worry about him

 

[marynnu]

So he disagrees with the other 2 experts?

I don't think so. The way I read it is that he feels the minor bruising with Baby P's liver could possibly have been caused by CPR, but that in his view it wouldn't cause the catastrophic level of injury seen with Baby O.

 

[magikarpmagikarp]

So he disagrees with the other 2 experts?

I think that he is saying that the other injury was so extensive it could not be from CPR, but this one is smaller and so he cannot rule it out?

 

[marynnu]

"The defence lawyer is focusing his questioning on the fact he has had to rely on Dr Dewi Evans and other medics for his review.
Dr.Marnerides earlier said to discount the clinical evidence in forming his reports was akin asking someone to explain physics without using mathematics.". Brilliant. I think Mr. Myers might have met his match.

 

[Dotta]

Brilliant. I think Mr. Myers might have met his match.

I love it

First - "I wrote it"
And now THIS!

Karma haha

 

[Sweeper2000]

I can’t believe he did leave it on a cliff edge as well, oh well we will endure the suspense until around 5 pm, again.

 

[marynnu]

Dan is back!

 

[JosieJo]

We're back after lunch and have moved to Child O. Yesterday the court heard that the boy allegedly suffered a liver injury akin to a road traffic collision - Mr Myers has been asking Dr Marnerides about the minimum force needed to cause such an injury

Dr Marnerides says there is 'no way of measuring the force in a baby because we cannot conduct such experiments on babies'. He says from his experience, the minimum force required 'would be of the magnitude of forces generated from a baby jumping on a trampoline and falling'

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