UK - Nurse Lucy Letby Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #17

[Parker Knoll]

It’s a morally neutral word.

You have completely lost me now !

 

[Sweeper2000]

Well good heavens, Talk about coincidences. Found this today at my new home. I’m almost convinced it’s the same one in her garage and isn’t actually a commode, it’s just a seat.

 

[Sweeper2000]

You have completely lost me now !

It’s not necessarily wrong to kill. to murder is to do wrong but to kill not necessarily. It does not imply guilt or responsibility.

 

[Dotta]

It’s a morally neutral word.

Im dead tired so I cannot argue any more.

Good night
Sweet dreams!

By the way, I had this terrible nightmare the other night - a strange nurse was chasing me with a huge syringe in a kind of tunnel.

Geez!
I couldn't sleep a wink after that!!!

 

[notsure]

Im dead tired so I cannot argue any more.

Good night
Sweet dreams!

By the way, I had this terrible nightmare the other night - a strange nurse was chasing me with a huge syringe in a kind of tunnel.

Geez!
I couldn't sleep a wink after that!!!

Sleep well, Dotta, and wishing you better dreams!

 

[Sweeper2000]

Im dead tired so I cannot argue any more.

Good night
Sweet dreams!

By the way, I had this terrible nightmare the other night - a strange nurse was chasing me with a huge syringe in a kind of tunnel.

Geez!
I couldn't sleep a wink after that!!!

Til the morrow Dotta, may you dream of soft furry things instead. Let not the old hag bother you.

 

[DinerMite]

"Today is your birthday but you aren't here and I am so sorry for that. I'm sorry that you couldn't have the chance at life you should have and for the pain that your parents experience everyday. We tried our best and it wasn't enough. I don't know if many people will think of you today or anyday but I do and I hope will always remember"

Strange how in the first half she acknowledges the pain the parents feel every day then writes she doesn't know if many will think of the baby (but she will - of course)

It feels self-righteous almost, or as if there is a bond if that makes sense. It's just strange to act like you are the only one who will ever give thought to the baby - ego?

 

[Parker Knoll]

I hear you Dotta !
Sleep tight !

 

[Sundial]

It’s a morally neutral word.

How so?
Example; killed the bird (intention)
I’m gunna kill you! (Anger/frustration)

How can kill be neutral?

EBM

 

[Sundial]

Well good heavens, Talk about coincidences. Found this today at my new home. I’m almost convinced it’s the same one in her garage and isn’t actually a commode, it’s just a seat.View attachment 415821

In my post I said it was either a commode OR seat. Here is the seat.

Just wondered, is there a crutch in your bedroom? Lol

ETA that’s actually a perching stool, it appears slightly higher than the seat in her garage.

 

[Marantz4250b]

She seemed to be quite sociable, though.

Yes, she was definitely sociable and clearly had a good circle of friends. This, for me, is one of the things which makes this whole case so unusual.

 

[Parker Knoll]

Do you mean neutral term not word ?

 

[Sundial]

It’s not necessarily wrong to kill. to murder is to do wrong but to kill not necessarily. It does not imply guilt or responsibility.

Sorry but seriously?
“It’s not necessarily wrong to kill?”

 

[notsure]

Do you mean neutral term not word ?

Hope Sweeper doesn't mind my answering, but I think he means kill does not necessarily mean murder.

 

[Sundial]

Hope Sweeper doesn't mind my answering, but I think he means kill does not necessarily mean murder.

Reasonable point; however it can’t be viewed as a neutral word.
It has an emotive point (eg I’m guna kill that squawking bird)
Or an act/intention/anger (eg I’m guna kill you if you come near me)

 

[notsure]

Yes, she was definitely sociable and clearly had a good circle of friends. This, for me, is one of the things which makes this whole case so unusual.

Not just casual friends, either. Friends that thought very highly of her, at least before everything kicked off.

 

[Marantz4250b]

Not just casual friends, either. Friends that thought very highly of her, at least before everything kicked off.

Indeed. Most of the pictures we see of her were snaffled from Facebook. They show her in the company of others in social settings and, it would appear in many cases, were posted publicly by other people who were happy enough to be associated with her.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Hope Sweeper doesn't mind my answering, but I think he means kill does not necessarily mean murder.

Exactly that. I don’t really want to go on a tangent about the way words are used I just think she has used that word repetitively for a reason

 

[katydid23]

here’s a long shot and Im trying to figure something out. I’m genuinely wondering about her use of the word “killed”. For some reason it jumps out at me and features in plenty of the notes.

for instance if someone is confessing to the crime of murder do they use the word “killed” or ”murdered”? I don’t know if I’m just getting caught up on the neutrality of the word.

Neutrality? Is the word 'killed' neutral? When talking about dead babies who experts say were physically attacked, I don't think using 'killed' is really that neutral of a word.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Neutrality? Is the word 'killed' neutral? When talking about dead babies who experts say were physically attacked, I don't think using 'killed' is really that neutral of a word.

Not in that context no. But the word by itself is neutral. It doesn’t refer to any social construct. For instance “right and wrong”.it simply means to inflict death upon Without attaching human emotion to it or thought.