Why would I assume? Because I only had that one comment to go on and I have plenty of experience that it does happen and no one is particularly concerned about it and I'd assume if you were a nurse, you'd have encountered it even more than someone who just knows a few medical professionals and sick people.
"...seniors have also made this clear; you can be a good nurse with empathy and compassion, you get to the know the families. However, this is not healthy..." - I'm a little unclear what you'r saying here? Are you saying seniors say you *can* do this but *you* think it's unhealthy, or do you need to rephrase?
Then could you imagine,
- if you had that one nurse that became overly so invested in the practice of memory boxes, - I got the impression the prosecution was trying to push that idea, but I never really heard evidence to put LL's investment into context in comparison to other nurses on the team (a common theme), so couldn't say...
- persistent various searches on social media of patients and families like an obsession - Looking at the actual volume and significance of the searches, it feels like we're talking about someone remembering a previous patient, perhaps after weeks or months of not thinking about them, searching to see where they're at these days, and then perhaps searching other patients that were brought to mind at the same time - we KNOW we're not talking about daily searches or even weekly searches for the patients involved as the numbers are too low.
- or found to have DOZENS of handover sheets in their home. - I think this is a sign that they sometimes bring sheets home and they don't get around to disposing of them securely, a bit of a leap to say it indicates any kind of obsession. Hoarding behaviour, possibly.
So yeah, doesn't seem like anything more than what I've encountered several times through friends and relatives, and there doesn't seem to be much sign that she had any struggles with her job, a few acute periods immediately following deaths as you might expect, but nothing major until the accusations started flying.
I can appreciate your input, although I have been on the thread for a while and that is not my only comment re my job/experience.
Regarding my point;
"...seniors have also made this clear; you can be a good nurse with empathy and compassion, you get to the know the families. However, this is not healthy..." - I'm a little unclear what you'r saying here? Are you saying seniors say you *can* do this but *you* think it's unhealthy, or do you need to rephrase?
I’m sorry if you felt this wasn’t clear, I’ll rephrase it;
I’m saying, senior members of staff will make clear you can be a good nurse with empathy and compassion, getting to know the family etc.
BUT when I say however *this* is not healthy; I am referring to that in which we have heard in evidence; the defendants professional conduct.
There is a big difference in being a good nurse and caring for your patient (and building good rapport with their family); and crossing that professional boundary. That is not ok. They teach you this as part of the ethical obligation as a nurse.
First and foremost you are their nurse.
Secondly, even if building rapport and have been given chocolates you are still the nurse. When it crosses outside of this to the point you are investing yourself to someone who is not your patient or you are not actually that involved in their care and don’t actually know the patient that well- but keep going against your senior, won’t step back or take time off to rest from grief or anything else; then it becomes a problem.
If you ask any senior member of nursing staff (or even her colleagues witness testimonies), when you are unable to do this, it then concerning. Hoarding confidential patient information demonstrates that IS a struggle with her job. Confidentiality is the very essence of her working as a nurse. Consider how you might feel if you found out your babies confidential information (whether they had died or not) was found amongst all the other 250 found at her home? Does that fit the norm of a nurse?
It is the basic principles of nursing where if they are not upheld by those within the profession; it becomes a conflict of interest and causes all sorts of messy internal investigations. As we are seeing. This is exactly why.
IMO and in my experience.
