VERDICT WATCH UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #28

[Diddly1]

“we’re gonna need a bigger room”

Or if you were a ‘Calendar Girl’ a considerably bigger room…

 

[katydid23]

Dan O'Donoghue
@MrDanDonoghue
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24m

Judge Goss is nearing the conclusion of his summing up now. He tells the jury they must 'reach a decision on all the evidence' and determine in relation to each alleged offence whether they can be 'sure of the defendants guilt or not'

Judge Goss says many of the children in this case suffered unexpected life threatening collapses, many of which medics says they had not witnessed the like of before. He says the Crown argue 'this is not a series of unconnected events'

He says the Crown argue that the collapses 'when put in context' with expert evidence, post mortem findings and all the other evidence (notes, handover sheets messages etc) the jury 'can be sure the defendant committed all the offences on which you are trying her'

He says the Crown argue that the collapses 'when put in context' with expert evidence, post mortem findings and all the other evidence (notes, handover sheets messages etc) the jury 'can be sure the defendant committed all the offences on which you are trying her'

Judge Goss says the defence Ms Letby denies harming any children. Her case is that was a hardworking, dedicated nurse. She never falsified notes and there was 'no sinister purpose' for her Facebook searches for parents of children in this case



The handover sheets, she says, where taken from the hospital in error and the notes - upon which she wrote 'I am evil' - were 'a product of despair'
Jury are currently out on a break, when they return there'll be a few administrative tasks and soon after they will retire to consider their verdicts

I have to say, I've grown to really appreciate, our pal, Mr. Dan....

He was almost always present and accounted for---often the ONLY reporter tweeting in real time. I applaud him for that.

I did use to complain sometimes, that his reporting was sometimes 'thin' on details compared to the Standard, for example. However, I have grown to appreciate that as time went on.

Sometimes I learned more from reading through his tweets, because he left out some of the extraneous details, but set forth the core of the testimony and the shape of each day came through. I didnt get lost in the details but came away with the big picture.

I want to thank you , @MrDanDonoghue, for all the effort and hard work you put forth for us all. It was quite a task and probably overwhelming at times. THANK YOU!

 

[Parker Knoll]

Yes, I can’t imagine how the jury must be feeling right now.
[/QUOTE]

Emotional/stressed/exhausted/relieved +++

 

[Parker Knoll]

It’s said a great deal in my house Dotta !

 

[Tortoise]

Length of Deliberations Predictions

6h - @NeverPersonal
8h 30m - @Phoenix Lazarus
8h 45m - @Sundial
9h - @SusanDonim
9h 30m - @Tortoise
10h 15m - @Diddly1
10h 45m - @Bethan
11h 30m - @Becci
12h 41m - @marynnu
13h 13m - @Luwin
14h 20m - @Becky53
14h 46m - @Marantz4250b
15h 20m - @JosieJo
15h 45m - @katydid23
16h - @Jazmania
17h 30m - @May72031
17h 40m - @Penny68
18h - @GoodDayToYouSir
19h 30m - @MissMarbles
19h 45m - @ScotAng
20h - @Moll
21h 30m - @Kasmeer
22h 22m - @abovethestorm
23h 12m - @Dcflag
24h 10m - @Blondiexoxo
25h - @Sarahlou
28h - @squish
28h 28m - @DianaWW
30h 10m - @WaxLyrical
31h 30m - @Sweeper2000
32h 14m - @Kittybunny
34h - @bbsaz
35h 25m - @Dotta
41h 15m - @Observant-ADHD-ENFP-BSc
45h 10m - @esther43
58h - @Jw192
70h - @bobbymkii
75h - @CS2C
80h - @V347


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Thurs 13th July 2pm to 4pm - @Parker Knoll
Thurs 13th July 2.30pm - @Kemug
Thurs 13th July 3.37pm - @Legal
Fri 14th July 12.45pm - @ColourPurple

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[JosieJo]

Yes, I can’t imagine how the jury must be feeling right now.

Emotional/stressed/exhausted/relieved +++
[/QUOTE]

Yes I bet they are

 

[bbsaz]

This is a very long 20min break...

 

[katydid23]

I have to say, I've grown to really appreciate, our pal, Mr. Dan....

He was almost always present and accounted for---often the ONLY reporter tweeting in real time. I applaud him for that.

I did use to complain sometimes, that his reporting was sometimes 'thin' on details compared to the Standard, for example. However, I have grown to appreciate that as time went on.

Sometimes I learned more from reading through his tweets, because he left out some of the extraneous details, but set forth the core of the testimony and the shape of each day came through. I didnt get lost in the details but came away with the big picture.

I want to thank you , @MrDanDonoghue, for all the effort and hard work you put forth for us all. It was quite a task and probably overwhelming at times. THANK YOU!

OHHHHH----I sent Dan a small portion of this ^^^ post, thanking him---and he thanked it! ...

 

[Tortoise]

This is a very long 20min break...

I'm thinking the same. I can't get on Twitter anymore. Is Dan tweeting anything?

 

[Blondiexoxo]

No. Here's the original reporting where it specifies "at home":

She is asked about 'a large quantity of handover sheets' at Letby's home address. She replies there was "no specific reason" why she had taken them home.

She said she would have been aware she still had the handover sheets when she got home, and put them in a folder in the spare room.

She said she "didn't know how to dispose of them" and no-one else had seen them.

She said she would have seen those handover sheets at home "hardly ever".

She said she did not have a shredder and those sheets were at home 'inadvertently'.

Recap: Lucy Letby trial, Thursday, April 27

The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

So she did look at them. Despite saying they were just bits of paper that were ‘insignificant’ to her, and she had forgotten she even had them. Now we discover she ‘hardly ever’ looked at them. I take that to mean at some point she may have looked at them, which raises the question of whether she took out her little collection from time to time (‘hardly ever’) looked through them and then instead of disposing of them as she should have done in the first place, she put them safely back where she continued to keep them.

IMO that does not sound like ‘insignificant’ bits of paper. But the decision isn’t mine to make. It’s up to the jury now I just hope they get this right…

MOO

 

[DianaWW]

Mark's next post will be to tell us when they've returned from their deliberations if lunch breaks are anything to go by....

 

[Dotta]

OHHHHH----I sent Dan a small portion of this ^^^ post, thanking him---and he thanked it! ...

Que emocion!!!!
Can you make a screenshot??

 

[ColourPurple]

I have to say, I've grown to really appreciate, our pal, Mr. Dan....

He was almost always present and accounted for---often the ONLY reporter tweeting in real time. I applaud him for that.

I did use to complain sometimes, that his reporting was sometimes 'thin' on details compared to the Standard, for example. However, I have grown to appreciate that as time went on.

Sometimes I learned more from reading through his tweets, because he left out some of the extraneous details, but set forth the core of the testimony and the shape of each day came through. I didnt get lost in the details but came away with the big picture.

I want to thank you , @MrDanDonoghue, for all the effort and hard work you put forth for us all. It was quite a task and probably overwhelming at times. THANK YOU!

I preferred Mark from Chester Standard tbh lol.

At least he'd tend to tell us when they'd gone for a lunch break or finished for the day. But I suppose attendance-wise Dan would win the award.

 

[katydid23]

I'm thinking the same. I can't get on Twitter anymore. Is Dan tweeting anything?

This was his last post:


Jury are currently out on a break, when they return there'll be a few administrative tasks and soon after they will retire to consider their verdicts


But I sent him a reply:
I want to thank you ,
@MrDanDonoghue
for all the consistent effort and hard work you put forth for us all. It was quite a task and probably overwhelming at times. THANK YOU for a job well done!


[and he immediately liked it----so he is around, but nothing to post yet?]

 

[bbsaz]

I'm thinking the same. I can't get on Twitter anymore. Is Dan tweeting anything?

Nope

 

[Blondiexoxo]

I suppose there is a chance we could be waiting a long time for a verdict, the jury could possibly spend a day discussing each case which could mean a 4 week deliberation! Maybe the ones with a clear IMO link such as babies F and L, O & P plus others could take less time to decide. But with a ‘day’ only being around 4.5 hours, it might take a very long time, especially given these 12 jurors have been unable to air their opinions for 9 long months. Now is their chance to finally speak up. 4.5 hours will fly by for them with all 12 wanting their turn to share their thoughts. Oh to be a fly on the wall in that room!

MOO

 

[Tortoise]

Perhaps legal discussion going on then

 

[Tortoise]

12:49pm

The trial will resume shortly - trial judge Mr Justice James Goss has returned to the courtroom.

12:50pm

The 12 members of the jury have now returned to the courtroom.

Recap: Lucy Letby trial, July 10 - judge's summing up, jury out

The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…

www.chesterstandard.co.uk

 

[katydid23]

Perhaps legal discussion going on then

If Meyers has any requests, this is it, last chance to bring it up....

 

[Dotta]

If Meyers has any requests, this is it, last chance to bring it up....

A pay rise for the plumber?