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They can’t bring anything else up.
VERDICT WATCH UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, Faces 22 Charges - 7 Murder/15 Attempted Murder of Babies #28
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The judge apologises for the delay, saying the process took longer than anticipated.
He says in relation to the lists the prosecution submitted, that the defence say they did not establish patterns, and there were dissimilarities.
He says there will be two additions to the evidence bundle for the jurors - they had already been heard in evidence.
Benjamin Myers KC says the two additions to the bundle are photographs of Letby's house, and a schedule of social media material which had been served.
The judge says an iPad has been linked to a large screen in the room, so evidence for group discussion can be presented on a big screen, for convenience. There will be spare iPads [which contain the evidence stored electronically in the case].
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The judge apologises for the delay, saying the process took longer than anticipated.
He says in relation to the lists the prosecution submitted, that the defence say they did not establish patterns, and there were dissimilarities.
He says there will be two additions to the evidence bundle for the jurors - they had already been heard in evidence.
Benjamin Myers KC says the two additions to the bundle are photographs of Letby's house, and a schedule of social media material which had been served.
The judge says an iPad has been linked to a large screen in the room, so evidence for group discussion can be presented on a big screen, for convenience. There will be spare iPads [which contain the evidence stored electronically in the case].
Recap: Lucy Letby trial, July 10 - judge's summing up, jury out
The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…
1:00pm
He says the deliberations are confidential to the jury, and there is no disclosure of them to anyone, including any court bailiffs when they are present in the deliberation room.
He says the jurors should respect each others' opinions, everyone should be listened to, and no-one should feel pressured, including on time.
Deliberation times will be between 10.30am-4pm. At 4pm, the jury will be brought back each day and then sent home. When they are not deliberating, the deliberation room will remain locked.
The judge urges jurors to not, under any circumstances, discuss the case with anyone outside of all 12 jurors in the deliberation. They are not allowed to discuss the case with each other in the absence of any juror.
Two five-minute 'smoke breaks' will take place during each day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon. For each of those breaks, a bailiff will escort the juror or jurors outside and remain with them. Another bailiff will remain with the jurors inside the deliberation room.
A man or woman will be selected as the jury foreman. That person can be changed in advance of a verdict for any reason, the judge advises.
Any questions on the case are to be written on a note, not communicated verbally to the court bailiff, for presentation to the court.
www.chesterstandard.co.uk
He says the deliberations are confidential to the jury, and there is no disclosure of them to anyone, including any court bailiffs when they are present in the deliberation room.
He says the jurors should respect each others' opinions, everyone should be listened to, and no-one should feel pressured, including on time.
Deliberation times will be between 10.30am-4pm. At 4pm, the jury will be brought back each day and then sent home. When they are not deliberating, the deliberation room will remain locked.
The judge urges jurors to not, under any circumstances, discuss the case with anyone outside of all 12 jurors in the deliberation. They are not allowed to discuss the case with each other in the absence of any juror.
Two five-minute 'smoke breaks' will take place during each day, one in the morning and one in the afternoon. For each of those breaks, a bailiff will escort the juror or jurors outside and remain with them. Another bailiff will remain with the jurors inside the deliberation room.
A man or woman will be selected as the jury foreman. That person can be changed in advance of a verdict for any reason, the judge advises.
Any questions on the case are to be written on a note, not communicated verbally to the court bailiff, for presentation to the court.
Recap: Lucy Letby trial, July 10 - judge's summing up, jury out
The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…
1:01pm
He says verdicts should be unanimous on each count. He says if, after a certain length of time, jurors are unable to agree unanimous verdicts, then they will be brought back to court and further directions will be given.
1:02pm
The court ushers are now being sworn as jury bailiffs.
1:03pm
The jury is now being sent out to consider verdicts.
www.chesterstandard.co.uk
He says verdicts should be unanimous on each count. He says if, after a certain length of time, jurors are unable to agree unanimous verdicts, then they will be brought back to court and further directions will be given.
1:02pm
The court ushers are now being sworn as jury bailiffs.
1:03pm
The jury is now being sent out to consider verdicts.
Recap: Lucy Letby trial, July 10 - judge's summing up, jury out
The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…
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It still blows my mind that the jury had to actually ask for pens and paper to make notes at the start, and the court didn’t have any so someone had to trek down to WHSmith to get some….
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Mr Justice Goss is reminding the jury to keep their deliberations confidential and has instructed the panel to "respect each others opinions" and said "no on should be or feel pressured" during the course of their discussions.
He advises the jury to select a foreman 'who can organise and lead your discussions' and ensure everyone gets chance to speak fairly
He has instructed the jury to reach "unanimous verdicts on each count on the indictment".
The jury has gone out in the trial of nurse Lucy Letby
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Lucy Letby: Jury retires in trial of nurse accused of baby murders
The nurse is accused of killing seven babies and attempting to kill 10 others on a neonatal unit.
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Mr Justice Goss is reminding the jury to keep their deliberations confidential and has instructed the panel to "respect each others opinions" and said "no on should be or feel pressured" during the course of their discussions.
He advises the jury to select a foreman 'who can organise and lead your discussions' and ensure everyone gets chance to speak fairly
He has instructed the jury to reach "unanimous verdicts on each count on the indictment".
The jury has gone out in the trial of nurse Lucy Letby
bbc.co.uk
Lucy Letby: Jury retires in trial of nurse accused of baby murders
The nurse is accused of killing seven babies and attempting to kill 10 others on a neonatal unit.
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Yes! I forgot about that!! How ridiculous.
Honestly the whole thing has been a bit of an eye opener for me, I thought jurors were treated much better. Can’t believe they have to bring their own refreshments too.
The jury in the Shipman trial took 6 days to reach a verdict on 15 counts of murder so I reckon Monday next week for this trial - Shipman found guilty of murdering 15 patients
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I prefer pen and paper to make notes sometimes.
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Thank you1:01pm
He says verdicts should be unanimous on each count. He says if, after a certain length of time, jurors are unable to agree unanimous verdicts, then they will be brought back to court and further directions will be given.
1:02pm
The court ushers are now being sworn as jury bailiffs.
1:03pm
The jury is now being sent out to consider verdicts.
Recap: Lucy Letby trial, July 10 - judge's summing up, jury out
The trial of Lucy Letby, who denies murdering seven babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital neonatal unit and attempting to murder 10 more, is…
PS does anyone know if the jury have to give their verdicts for all the counts at the same time? Or does the judge read them out their verdict for each count when he receives it then sends them back to the jury room to continue their deliberations for the other counts?
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"He has instructed the jury to reach "unanimous verdicts on each count on the indictment".
So maybe it will take 80 to 90 hours if they try to be unanimous on 22 counts?????
So maybe it will take 80 to 90 hours if they try to be unanimous on 22 counts?????
Oh, and don't forget about sitting there covered in scarves shivering in cold.
I hate being cold
I simpy cannot concentrate.
Pretty sure they do it all at the same time.Thank you
PS does anyone know if the jury have to give their verdicts for all the counts at the same time? Or does the judge read them out their verdict for each count when he receives it then sends them back to the jury room to continue their deliberations for the other counts?
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Full media crew already outside Manchester Crown Court.
This is super interesting!
This is why it will take ages I think, as some will take the judges line of "you can use other guilty decisions to inform weaker cases" differently to others. Some will want to wrangle over each and every case to feel confident on it, in isolation of the other charges, rather than the "pattern approach" the judge allowed
In the rain. For a while yet
Just want to thank everyone who has done updates over the last 9 months especially @Tortoise ....and I know @katydid23 spent many a twilight hour also.
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