GUILTY UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 7 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 6 hung re attempted #31

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  • #381
Will be interesting to see what information now comes out or what analysis can or has been done to understand why she did this
 
  • #382
Another news outlet has uploaded the video now too. What does this mean

What type of news outlet. If they are not a well known MSM site then they probably screen recorded it and shared it without authorisation to do so.
 
  • #383
I've felt pretty detached throughout, almost like it wasn't real. But I just cried after hearing the verdict, and I never cry. What a nightmare. All respect to the jury.
 
  • #384
Sweeper is on time out but says he is relieved and glad for the result
 
  • #385
The 22 charges and the jury's decision:

  • Count 1 - murder of Child A, a baby boy, on June 8, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 2 - attempted murder of Child B (twin of Child A), a baby girl, between June 8-11, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 3 - murder of Child C, a baby boy, on June 14, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 4 - murder of Child D, a baby girl, on June 22, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 5 - murder of Child E, a baby boy, on August 4, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 6 - attempted murder of Child F (twin of Child E), a baby boy, on August 5, 2015: GUILTY UNANIMOUSLY
  • Count 7 - attempted murder of Child G, a baby girl, on September 7, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 8 - attempted murder of Child G on September 21, 2015 at about 10.15am: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 9 - attempted murder of Child G on September 21, 2015 at about 3.30pm: NOT GUILTY
  • Count 10 - attempted murder of Child H, a baby girl, on September 26, 2015: NOT GUILTY
  • Count 11 - attempted murder of Child H on September 27, 2015: NO VERDICT
  • Count 12 - murder of Child I, a baby girl, on October 23, 2015: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 13 - attempted murder of Child J, a baby girl, on November 27, 2015: NO VERDICT
  • Count 14 - attempted murder of Child K, a baby girl, on February 17, 2016: NO VERDICT
  • Count 15 - attempted murder of Child L, a baby boy, on April 9, 2016: GUILTY UNANIMOUSLY
  • Count 16 - attempted murder of Child M (twin of Child L), a baby boy, on April 9, 2016: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 17 - attempted murder of Child N, a baby boy, on June 3, 2016: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 18 - attempted murder of Child N on June 15, 2016, at about 7.15am-7.30am: NO VERDICT
  • Count 19 - attempted murder of Child N on June 15, 2016, at about 3pm: NO VERDICT
  • Count 20 - murder of Child O, a baby boy, on June 23, 2016: GUILTY UNANIMOUSLY
  • Count 21 - murder of Child P (triplet brother of Child O), a baby boy, on June 24, 2016: GUILTY 10-1 MAJORITY
  • Count 22 - attempted murder of Child Q, a baby boy, on June 25, 2016: NO VERDICT

 
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  • #387
Yes here.

I made no secret of the fact that I was totally the opposite at the beginning but, yeah, I agree with them.
Surprised at that. You seemed to defend her all the way.
 
  • #388
I’ve followed this trial and I’m so relieved that the right verdict has been reached.

Lucy Letby, I hope you spend the rest of your life rotting behind bars. You are a sick individual.

To all the other colleagues that she tried to throw under the bus.. I’m sorry that you had to go through this - I really hope you can rebuild your lives and careers.

To the families of the precious babies I’m so sorry that you lost your children in this way.

The worlds a safer place with Letby now locked up.
 
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How pleased I am to be here-10.30 ish Friday night in Australia-with you all for the verdicts.

Some peace for the families
 
  • #391
It’s interesting what they’ve shared. Normally with arrest videos we see the actual arrest and the person’s reaction to it. We don’t have that here.

And the clip of the interview was around asking her if she’s noticed the spike in deaths.

It’s just very non-committal. Doesn’t look the footage that would be shared of a guilty person, but equally very unusual to share something if someone is not guilty.
can you still view it? I couldn't view it.
 
  • #392
It can now be revealed that some verdicts were delivered on Tuesday, August 8, Friday, August 11, Wednesday, August 16 and Thursday, August 17, but reporting restrictions were imposed to prevent publication of those until the jury had finished all their deliberations.

On August 8, just after 2pm, Letby was unanimously found by the jury to have poisoned Child F and Child L with insulin. Letby - as had been the case for much of the trial - remained emotionless as those verdicts were delivered, and began crying after the jury left to continue deliberating.

On August 11, just after 1pm, Letby remained emotionless as the jury unanimously found her guilty of murdering Child O, and by a 10 to one majority, of murdering Child C, Child I and Child P. The jury also found her guilty by a 10 to one majority of attempting to murder Child M and Child N.

Parents of the children wiped away tears as those verdicts were read out. After the jury and Letby left court, Letby's mother Susan Letby could be heard sobbing uncontrollably.

On August 16, just after 2pm, Letby did not attend the courtroom as further verdicts were read out. She was found guilty, by a majority of 10-1, of murdering Child A, Child D and Child E, and of attempting to murder Child B. She was also found guilty on two counts of attempting to murder Child G. Letby was found not guilty on a third count of attempting to murder Child G.

Parents in the public gallery wept, sobbed and consoled each other as those verdicts were read out.

On August 17, just after 12.45pm, Letby again did not attend as the jury found her not guilty on one count of attempting to murder Child H.

Reporting restrictions preventing the naming of any of the babies in the indictment remain in place.

The 33-year-old, first arrested in Chester in July 2018 and originally from Hereford, will be sentenced on Monday, August 21.

Letby made her last appearance in Manchester Crown Court on the morning of Wednesday, August 16, when the jury began its 20th day of deliberations.

Trial judge Mr Justice James Goss informed the court, the following day, that he had received a note to say Letby would not be returning to court, and was not intending to attend the sentencing hearing, and was "not prepared" to appear via videolink.

The judge said he was aware there had been recent sentencings where the defendant had refused to appear, and said the court "has no power" to force her to attend.

He added that for the sentencing hearing, for which his remarks will be televised, his comments would address Letby as if she was present.

On Friday, August 18, the jury announced it could go no further with its deliberations, and the 11 jurors were discharged. No verdicts were entered on six counts of attempted murder.

i hope his comments address her whether she is present or not.
entitlement much?
psycho!
 
  • #393
The fact that the jury’s conclusion differs on the different charges and they acquitted on one count (I think) and were unable to reach verdicts on others, does suggest to me that they thought about things very carefully and weren’t just following one line of thought but looking at the evidence they had in front of them. It sounds like they were very thorough. I’ve seen some unfair criticism of them online for the length of time or whatever and find that ridiculous. It must have been such a harrowing set of cases to sit through for so long. Surely excused from further jury service for the rest of their lives.
 
  • #394
I have shed tears and I never EVER cry.
So delighted this is over for all concerned.
Peace and love to all involved in this utterly horrific case.
 
  • #395
I agree with verdict but I started out believing LL was innocent and scapegoated.
 
  • #396
I am surprised the insulin poisonings were unanimous but all other other verdicts were majority. So someone thinks she was poisoning babies but not harming any of the others?
 
  • #397
Surprised at that. You seemed to defend her all the way.
I didn't, I don't think.

I'm an argumentative so and so, however, sonic may have come over that way!
 
  • #398
It would be interesting to know ( although we never will of course ) if the majority verdicts were always the same juror.
 
  • #399
Thanks @Tortoise for all the work ...and all others
 
  • #400
Well there to go, been out shopping logged back in here and read the verdict, BBC radio 2 is just now 1-35 pm giving an update, side note Anxala was right on a Friday, to be fair he never did say which one.
 
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