UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #36

[Highlandspring]

Found it.

If you listen to it, please could you tell us if she was the one who told CS2C that LL was head girl? Thanks.

OK yes, the classmate does say LL was headgirl in their last year, but I've heard that (maybe from the Moritz Coffey book havent yet resd?) that she wasn't. There's no obvious reason why this classmate would lie though.

 

[Marantz4250b]

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[Marantz4250b]

The “unusual” spike in baby deaths on the neonatal unit where Lucy Letby worked had a less than 1% probability of occurring given its previous mortality rate, a public inquiry has been told.

Sir David Spiegelhalter, the emeritus professor of statistics at the University of Cambridge, said the sudden rise in deaths in 2015 was “surprising” and enough to warrant an internal investigation.

Spike in baby deaths in Lucy Letby unit warranted inquiry, says statistician

Sir David Spiegelhalter says rise was surprising within hospital but not from a national perspective

www.theguardian.com

so those stat wizzez aint all in agreement. How does that sound comparing the facts that much ado was made of the shift chart as incorrect stats and that statement that the likelihood of it being a normal run of things was less than 1% ?

That statement may be true but it's not really relevant to the case. This is, once again, promoting the notion that some office bod collating stats noticed an anomaly which lead to an investigation which ended up at Lucy Letby. As has been mentioned dozens of times on here, this is simply not true.

Doctors and other staff members kept noticing that LL was always around when unexplained deaths and collapses happened - and was often in very close proximity to them or physically involved in some way such as in the resus.

Statistics are virtually irrelevant to her convictions. The mainstream media really needs to start making this point more forcefully.

 

[Sweeper2000]

That statement may be true but it's not really relevant to the case. This is, once again, promoting the notion that some office bod collating stats noticed an anomaly which lead to an investigation which ended up at Lucy Letby. As has been mentioned dozens of times on here, this is simply not true.

Doctors and other staff members kept noticing that LL was always around when unexplained deaths and collapses happened - and was often in very close proximity to them or physically involved in some way such as in the resus.

Statistics are virtually irrelevant to her convictions. The mainstream media really needs to start making this point more forcefully.

It's very relevant to the enquiry though. Why did management delay for so long? And why on earth did that woman quote national stats but not local? The local is relevant to see if the staff are performing to their own standards.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Found it.

If you listen to it, please could you tell us if she was the one who told CS2C that LL was head girl? Thanks.

I checked that video. Doesn't mention the San pads or the first aid kit though. No mention of her being a head girl either.

 

[sunspun]

I checked that video. Doesn't mention the San pads or the first aid kit though. No mention of her being a head girl either.

Hmm, somehow you must have missed all that! Because I was sure I heard each of those 3 things mentioned, so I went back and found the timestamp for the "head girl" mention, and it's right about 4:09. I didn't look for the other 2 things yet, but I'm sure they're there.

I forgot you can read the transcript usually if you watch on youtube, so you could do that or I might later.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Hmm, somehow you must have missed all that! Because I was sure I heard each of those 3 things mentioned, so I went back and found the timestamp for the "head girl" mention, and it's right about 4:09. I didn't look for the other 2 things yet, but I'm sure they're there.

I forgot you can read the transcript usually if you watch on youtube, so you could do that or I might later.

i was half paying attention but if its there, thanks. eta head girl thing is but the others no as far as i can tell.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Not sure which thread this should actually be posted on but here are Letbys academic qualifications.

What’s the “4 other GCSEs” that aren’t worth mentioning by name? It’s just curious that some would be not named.
Anyway, no surprises that her academics are not outstanding, although, I would have thought from her parents performances that she would have performed better at school.

 

[Sweeper2000]

What’s the “4 other GCSEs” that aren’t worth mentioning by name? It’s just curious that some would be not named.
Anyway, no surprises that her academics are not outstanding, although, I would have thought from her parents performances that she would have performed better at school.

i dont think she told them the truth about them.

 

[Marantz4250b]

i dont think she told them the truth about them.

Her parents would have seen the written reports of her grades, surely? Given her family dynamic I cannot believe that they wouldn't have seen them. She seemed to be the centre of their universe so it seems highly unlikely she would have been able to hide that from them.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Her parents would have seen the written reports of her grades, surely? Given her family dynamic I cannot believe that they wouldn't have seen them. She seemed to be the centre of their universe so it seems highly unlikely she would have been able to hide that from them.

she seems to exaggerate everything that is like that so I wouldn't be suprised if they didnt.

 

[Baby baby Jane]

Parents might be able to influence /bully school staff … but the people who grade GCSE & a-level are anonymous & located elsewhere & away from parental influence.

 

[joltz]

Seems like the tattle wiki and associated threads have been removed. Looks like there may have been some threats made to members


Edit, it now seems to be back inline

 

[Kemug]

Parents might be able to influence /bully school staff … but the people who grade GCSE & a-level are anonymous & located elsewhere & away from parental influence.

Given her parents' behaviour at the hospital, I can easily imagine them trying to bully Lucy's teachers.

 

[Dotta]

Lawyers set to 'blame doctor over baby death at centre of Letby case'

The allegation against consultant Dr Stephen Brearey will be in an appeal centring on disturbing new evidence about alleged poor quality of care given to babies at his hospital in Chester.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Marantz4250b]

This woman, and her lawyers, seem to become ever more vile with every article that comes out!

I usually never comment on lawyers as they are only doing their job - and barristers almost never choose their cases - but in this case I'm making an exception. Utterly vile all round.

 

[SolVic]

Baby serial killer Lucy Letby's birthday celebrated at sick party

The meet-up at The Windmill pub on Clapham Common, London, featured six people, understood to have met via Facebook group 'Lucy Letby Discussions', a source said.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Sweeper2000]

Baby serial killer Lucy Letby's birthday celebrated at sick party

The meet-up at The Windmill pub on Clapham Common, London, featured six people, understood to have met via Facebook group 'Lucy Letby Discussions', a source said.

www.dailymail.co.uk

i would have gone for the lols. obviously to report back as well. why didn't i get an invite ? "why me"? "hate my life"

 

[Sweeper2000]

Notorious criminals will be 'forced' into dock for sentencing

Shabana Mahmood has promised a new law will be published by the summer

www.standard.co.uk

 

[katydid23]

The court of appeal refused her permission to appeal against the convictions, and a public inquiry led by Lady Justice Thirlwall is taking place on the basis that Letby is guilty.

However, Davis said he had formed the view that justice had not been done after he was approached by many experts expressing concerns, including a past president of the Royal Statistical Society and a past president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health. They were, he said, “more knowledgable than the purported experts whose evidence convicted Lucy Letby”.

Lucy Letby retrial needed after ‘clear miscarriage of justice’, says David Davis

MP tells parliament he believes justice has not been done after hearing experts’ concerns over former nurse’s murder convictions

www.theguardian.com

The past president of the statistical society is irrelevant in this case. The evidence was not based upon statistics. That guy was just looking for attention the whole time and spouting nonsense.