UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #36

[joltz]

Appreciate that but in this case it's clearly trying to direct and influence public opinion. And very blatantly so from that write-up of the press conference. It's so riddled with tabloid-type 'bombshell' speak. It's not remotely a good or credible look for the Defence Team.

JMO etc etc

When they need to resort to these tactics it's because the argument alone doesn't stand up, so it needs to be bolstered with a media campaign of misinformation.

 

[May72031]

The Guardian has another fluff piece, this time with Neena Modi.
I was part of the panel that reviewed the Lucy Letby case. I believe the trial was fundamentally flawed | Neena Modi

 

[mrC]

from the daily mail Does new 'evidence' prove Lucy Letby is innocent? LIZ HULL

 

[Moll]

from the daily mail Does new 'evidence' prove Lucy Letby is innocent? LIZ HULL

I saw that but not having a Mail+ subscription (and not wanting one) I couldn't read it. I assume the answer to the question is 'No'. Is there anything new?

 

[May72031]

Does new 'evidence' prove Lucy Letby is innocent? LIZ HULL
Take Baby D. A post-mortem found NO evidence of sepsis, and yet, the "eminent" panel claimed that "Baby D died from systemic sepsis, pneumonia and a serious blood clotting condition."

Where is their evidence of sepsis?

 

[mrC]

from the ieish medical times Irish Medical Times

 

[May72031]

from the ieish medical times Irish Medical Times

Are you trying to link to something specific?

 

[mrC]

oh sorry ill hae to redue that are here we are LOL: February 11, 2025

 

[May72031]

oh sorry ill hae to redue that are here we are LOL: February 11, 2025

And where is the evidence of sepsis in that opinion piece?

 

[SusanDonim]

And where is the evidence of sepsis in that opinion piece?

The opinion piece that simply regurgitates the claims made by Dr Lee.

There is also no trace of a "Dr Leslie O'Looney" outside that publication...

 

[Dotta]

"Until there is a definitive finding
that this new panel has convincingly undermined the evidence that was put before the courts,
then we should continue to respect the original convictions.

That this new report has made so many waves,
and seems to have changed so many minds,
says little about the legitimacy or otherwise of Lucy Letby’s conviction.

It merely shows
the disturbing willingness of so many to believe in her innocence,
regardless of what the evidence actually says."

No, Lucy Letby has not been exonerated

Her supporters’ unshakeable faith in her innocence is completely unfounded.

www-spiked--online-com.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[joltz]

oh sorry ill hae to redue that are here we are LOL: February 11, 2025

That's not evidence of sepsis. No evidence of sepsis was found at post-mortem??

 

[joltz]

"Until there is a definitive finding
that this new panel has convincingly undermined the evidence that was put before the courts,
then we should continue to respect the original convictions.

That this new report has made so many waves,
and seems to have changed so many minds,
says little about the legitimacy or otherwise of Lucy Letby’s conviction.

It merely shows
the disturbing willingness of so many to believe in her innocence,
regardless of what the evidence actually says."

No, Lucy Letby has not been exonerated

Her supporters’ unshakeable faith in her innocence is completely unfounded.

www-spiked--online-com.cdn.ampproject.org

That's it. If they have new evidence then I'm all ears but I can't see any reason to believe any of the claims. There's nothing to back them up and many can be rebuked by a layperson googling the medical evidence during the trial.

 

[Moll]

The opinion piece that simply regurgitates the claims made by Dr Lee.

There is also no trace of a "Dr Leslie O'Looney" outside that publication...

I'd thought it was a pseudonym for a journalist who might or might not be medically qualified. It gives them 'LOL', ha ha - not of course very appropriate for this topic.
Edited to add, I checked and it's a regular contributor, not a specialist opinion piece.

 

[mrC]

its not the opion ofdr lee its the opion of lee and 14 other experts from around the world

 

[Jazmania]

Thank you to this journalist for writing this piece The devil’s advocates

It means I don't have to.

 

[joltz]

its not the opion ofdr lee its the opion of lee and 14 other experts from around the world

No evidence of sepsis found at post-mortem.....

 

[mrC]

no evdence of murder was found at post mortem but we are expected to belie a murder happend

 

[May72031]

its not the opion ofdr lee its the opion of lee and 14 other experts from around the world

The same question applies. Where do they get sepsis from, when no sepsis was recorded on the post mortem?

 

[May72031]

no evdence of murder was found at post mortem but we are expected to belie a murder happend

But further investigations did reveal evidence of air embolism. They didn't find any evidence of sepsis. Plus blood tests demonstrated any lung infection was improving until Baby D suddenly collapsed. They even made a strange claim about a "serious blood clotting condition". Again, is NO evidence of that.
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