GUILTY UK - Nurse Lucy Letby, murder of babies, 7 Guilty of murder verdicts; 8 Guilty of attempted murder; 2 Not Guilty of attempted; 5 hung re attempted #38

[lisasimpson2010]

The nurses literally testified to making boxes with photos of the babies to take to the post natal ward, I guess were referring them all to the ICO and police then, for their “crimes”.

If you cannot see how these people’s opinions of Letby have been influenced retrospectively, I can’t help you.

Temporarily removing nasal oxygen for cares or handling is completely normal. Why is that anything that is clinically ordinary becomes evil as soon as it’s Letby doing it?

Absolute witch hunt.

What you are saying is simply flat out untrue, and you have failed to provide one single link for any of the wild claims that you're stating as fact.

It is absolutely not normal in any way. You've also posted "so what" about things that would get you disciplinary action in any UK hospital.


She removed his oxygen without permission, without the medical staff knowing she'd done it, and without telling anyone. She very obviously did not remove him from oxygen for cleaning since she only invented the "cleaning" excuse after the fact, when she was confronted. She removed him from oxygen for the sole purpose of taking illicit photos, which is extremely weird and against the law.

The fact the parents found it weird and disturbing is the only thing that matters.

No wonder so many people who knew LL reported that they found her to be deeply strange or excessively angry and hostile. She fits the profile of a female serial killer exactly.

 

[Anxala]

The Letbyists are out in force with their theories and support, today.

One Letbyist has released a video of herself singing a "Lucy Letby Ditty". Listen if you dare...
Lucy Letby Ditty

Meanwhile, another mad Letbyist is claiming her mugshot was "altered" to remove emotions from her face...
"Was Lucy Letby's Mugshot Altered?"

Re the ditty, I just listened. Yes, my sacrifice to you all so I can report back in an informed manner.

In the long tradition of powerful protest songs about injustice bringing about impactful change, I kind of feel this one, sadly, may not make the required grade.

But still, I'm going to give her 1/100 for heartfelt effort.

 

[Sweeper2000]

Just my two pennies but i feel actual pain for the parents that thought positively of letby. I couldnt dream of a bigger betrayal and the sheer degree of harm that that total flip of perspective would cause. Its one of teh worst things about this.

I bet they are the most lovely, non judgemental people as well.

 

[WaneLyrical]

She removed his oxygen without permission, without the medical staff knowing she'd done it, and without telling anyone. She very obviously did not remove him from oxygen for cleaning since she only invented the "cleaning" excuse after the fact, when she was confronted. She removed him from oxygen for the sole purpose of taking illicit photos, which is extremely weird and against the law.

What is your basis for ANY of this? It’s complete fantasy. “Without permission”, what are you even talking about.

If this baby was born the day after Ravi’s supernatural experience, that means they were born on 18 Feb. Mother’s Day would have been 6 March, so about half way through the baby’s stay. The baby wasn’t ventilated, because the parents specifically speak of a “mask”. If this is not an intubated baby, as it very clearly isn’t, then removal of the oxygen delivery by the nurses will be happening very frequently.

And if there was anything in it, I’m sure Dewi Evans would have been all over it.

 

[lisasimpson2010]

Can you provide one single citation for even one single claim that you've stated as fact?

There is no circumstance taking photos of an infant patient without permission as a "mother's day present" is acceptable or normal, much less removing oxygen purely to facilitate a photoshoot. It's deeply abnormal behaviour.

I am uncomfortable with any poster being dismissive towards parents who actually knew Letby personally.


The baby didn't die so no crime was committed. So obviously the prosecution wouldn't mention it, since they had to focus on the actual cases where babies died. That's what prosecution does, prosecute crimes. But there is evidence that is at the least suggestive that Letby intended to murder that baby in the future, and of course the parents' account build up a character study of Letby as a person who others found strange, and it builds up a pattern of behaviour of Letby engaging in deeply inappropriate behaviour.

 

[Sweeper2000]

I dont understand how those handovers were not stated to be organised by date tbh at trial. We went over that at length during the original trial. That detail changes everything really. It was suspect enough but that extra detail more or less frames it.

 

[WaneLyrical]

Can you provide one single citation for even one single claim that you've stated as fact?

There is no circumstance taking photos of an infant patient without permission as a "mother's day present" is acceptable or normal, much less removing oxygen purely to facilitate a photoshoot. It's deeply abnormal behaviour.

I am uncomfortable with any poster being dismissive towards parents who actually knew Letby personally.


The baby didn't die so no crime was committed. So obviously the prosecution wouldn't mention it, since they had to focus on the actual cases where babies died. That's what prosecution does, prosecute crimes. But there is evidence that is at the least suggestive that Letby intended to murder that baby in the future, and of course the parents' account build up a character study of Letby as a person who others found strange, and it builds up a pattern of behaviour of Letby engaging in deeply inappropriate behaviour.

If you are challenging me to provide you with evidence that the nurses on this unit took photographs of babies to give to parents, then it’s clear you have not followed this case. It’s been evidenced multiple times within the trial itself and in the thirlwall inquiry.

What specifically are you looking for citations on?

Babies don’t have to die for a crime to be committed. Lots of babies in this case didn’t die. Letby’s serving a whole life order for dislodging a tube without any evidence. So I would have thought photographic evidence of her having removed tubes would be material.