UK - Prince Andrew accused of underage sexual relationship, 1999-2002 *settled* #2

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Daily Mail insider source reveals how it all went down (probably):

PC: Oh for gawd's sake, Andy, our poor mother is in her last moments!
A: It's a matter of principle, Charlie!
PC: Can't you bloody think of somebody else for once in your borish life!?
A: But but but I need Mummy right now!
PW: Stop being a cad, Uncle Andy!
A: This isn't fair!
PC: Enough!
A: Fine, but you owe me one, Charlie!
PC: For Christ's sake!
PW: You're disgusting, Uncle Andy.
PC: Settle down, William.
A: Ha! You got told!
PW: *rolls eyes*
PC: Enough! The dreadful thing is settled!


This sounds as if it had been written by a year 7 off school for half term.
 
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Point is he settled without demanding that the photo be produced and analysed, after denying he'd never met her.
Go figure......

I believe that he made an offer to settle and she accepted it because she could not produce the photo.

Let’s be clear on who offered and who accepted.
 
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If I couldn't produce the original photo and won a law suit for over 12 million USD, I'd say I won. Charity and her list to do 1st, she won. Expose the illegal creeps!
 
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If I couldn't produce the original photo and won a law suit for over 12 million USD, I'd say I won. Charity and her list to do 1st, she won. Expose the illegal creeps!

its not been said how much the settlement was for...but...the main thing supposedly was for her to get him to admit what she alleges he did. He never did that...so yes she got the money but..not the acknowledgment she wanted.
 
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I wonder if he was one of the 8 in the sealed thingummyjig?

They should all be quaking in their grubby little boots, time to bring them ALL down!

My impression is that he was a procurer for Epstein, too. More like a recruiter than a client. More like Ghislane. He had access to many young aspiring models from Europe, eastern Europe, and Africa.

I think the 8 in the sealed document are all "clients", and wealthy or prestigious enough to be able to influence / pay for their privacy.

I think they are more the custom -made fine Italian shoe types than "grubby boots"
 
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I think they are more the custom -made fine Italian shoe types than "grubby boots"

Haha you knew what I meant though! And I feel very strongly that those others should absolutely be held accountable and not allowed to pay for privacy.
 
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My impression is that he was a procurer for Epstein, too. More like a recruiter than a client. More like Ghislane. He had access to many young aspiring models from Europe, eastern Europe, and Africa.

I think the 8 in the sealed document are all "clients", and wealthy or prestigious enough to be able to influence / pay for their privacy.

I think they are more the custom -made fine Italian shoe types than "grubby boots"

At least 2 of the Does in the 1st set of names were victims/minors.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706/gov.uscourts.nysd.447706.1242.0.pdf
 

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This doc't is confusing. Does 55 and 56 were minors, but were they also victims, not just innocent bystanders? In their bid to keep their identities sealed, they raise other cases (unrelated, for examples) where info relating to minors remains sealed, which include examples of SAd minors, but the doc't notes: Does 55 and 56 have not raised any such countervailing interest here. It appears 55 and 56 base their argument for continued redaction on the sole fact that they were minors, but it's denied due to the fact that is not the law.

Correct me if I'm wrong here; there's been no mention of minor males being SAd in the JE/GM cases. It's MOO that Does 55 and 56 were for whatever reason connected to somebody involved and do not want their names to be associated with the likes of GM/JE/...

eta: clarity
 
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This doc't is confusing. Does 55 and 56 were minors, but were they also victims, not just innocent bystanders? In their bid to keep their identities sealed, they raise other cases (unrelated, for examples) where info relating to minors remains sealed, which include examples of SAd minors, but the doc't notes: Does 55 and 56 have not raised any such countervailing interest here. It appears 55 and 56 base their argument for continued redaction on the sole fact that they were minors, but it's denied due to the fact that is not the law.

Correct me if I'm wrong here; there's been no mention of minor males being SAd in the JE/GM cases. It's MOO that Does 55 and 56 were for whatever reason connected to somebody involved and do not want their names to be associated with the likes of GM/JE/...

eta: clarity

I think these are girls VG witnessed GM having sex with

https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/7010864/Virginia-Giuffre-Maxwell-Deposition.pdf
 

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I think these are girls VG witnessed GM having sex with

Does 55 and 56 are 'John Does,' not Jane Does? (BBM)

CNN 2022: Ghislaine Maxwell will no longer fight to keep the names of eight 'John Does' secret and will leave it to the court to decide whether the names should be unsealed, according to a January 12 letter to federal Judge Loretta Preska of the Southern District of New York.

"After careful review of the detailed objections submitted by Non-Party Does 17, 53, 54, 55, [56], 73, 93 and 151, counsel for Ghislaine Maxwell writes to inform the Court that she does not wish to further address those objections," Maxwell attorney Laura Menninger wrote.
 
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