GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #7

[Tortoise]

I wonder if they checked SH/NM bedroom as thoroughly as they checked their bathroom.

 

[ColourPurple]

Just thinking out loud here but could the unrecognised DNA on the masks mean someone else was involved?

That and the fact that the bathroom showed no signs of BW is making me ponder the same.

 

[Jennibee]

I don't think we have to worry about NM getting off with this on a technicality. He is going down either way but I hope it's with the harshest sentence possible.

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[Callista]

I wonder if they checked SH/NM bedroom as thoroughly as they checked their bathroom.

I'm sure they would've checked the whole house after NM confession.

 

[ms_x_to_the_m]

Just thinking out loud here but could the unrecognised DNA on the masks mean someone else was involved?

It did cross my mind😕

 

[Callista]

It's sounding more and more like it didn't happen in the bathroom which leaves the question... where else could it have happened?

I think the more important question is why would NM lie about it if it didn't happen in the bathroom? He's already admitted to killing Becky and dismembering her, how much worse can it be?! Is he covering for someone, and if so, who?!

 

[Alyce]

But it backs up NH's story that he strangled her! So confused. Did he think he'd killed her, but she came round and then 'someone' smothered her to shut her up?

Could NM have thought she was dead when he carried her out to his car, but was incorrect and something else happened afterwards?

Are those accused of storing the body parts more involved than we thought? At least one of them?

I'm so scared that if the case isn't proven, this pair could be getting off, at least partially, on technicalities and lack of evidence to back up the prosecutions' case.

BIB
That was my thought when we first heard he had claimed strangulation but the actual COD was suffocation.
NM thought he had killed her, but was SH smothering her the actual cause ?

 

[Tortoise]

if it happened off the property then NM would have had the difficulty of transporting the body parts back to the house for further transportation with the van to the shed. I think it must have happened at the house but this sure is confusing.

 

[Alyce]

Also, he/they would need an electrical outlet/extension cord to use the power saw.

Who would permit him/them to use their space? No one imo

If had been workplace or a shed, would have taken too many hours and/or other witnesses would likely have seen one or both in area/space.

Certainly, investigators are sophisticated enough to have checked other homes, sheds, workplaces to see if dismemberment had occurred in a location other than NM & SH's own home

Isnt there a back garden ? and only 8 cuts needed as I read it, should not take too long to do ( sorry, bit graphic that )

However, surely the garden has been gone over in detail, and some evidence would be there

 

[LBB]

BIB
That was my thought when we first heard he had claimed strangulation but the actual COD was suffocation.
NM thought he had killed her, but was SH smothering her the actual cause ?

Or he strangled her, thought she was dead however she wasn't and died of suffocation during transportation.

 

[Tortoise]

I don't understand the confusion about the neck injuries. this has to do with Becky bleeding from the neck before death, not strangulation marks.

 

[Crazy Mama]

I think that since the bathtub was un-damaged and there was no blood found in bathroom which when using a power tool would be very difficult, makes me think that she was drained (sorry) etc in the bathtub and then transported to another room where they cut through her bones (really sorry) with a power tool.
I think her first place in their house was in the bathroom and they must have carried her in wrapped in the car boot liner, and that is why that was located there. Once they realized what a difficult job lay ahead of them, and they would need to use that bathroom especially for the child, then they transferred her.

 

[ColourPurple]

I think the more important question is why would NM lie about it if it didn't happen in the bathroom? He's already admitted to killing Becky and dismembering her, how much worse can it be?! Is he covering for someone?!

This how my mind is working at the moment. Did he have access to another property? We heard him refer to their home as "Shauna's house" so where was his official home?

 

[Callista]

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Morse says could be from direct contact but can't exclude it could be from contact with other items with SH DNA on them which could transfer

That's her get out clause right there.

 

[Callista]

Isnt there a back garden ? and only 8 cuts needed as I read it, should not take too long to do ( sorry, bit graphic that )

However, surely the garden has been gone over in detail, and some evidence would be there

Also garden is in full view of neighbours from what I can see, I doubt they would risk doing it there.

 

[Crazy Mama]

I'm sure they would've checked the whole house after NM confession.

What about the attic? After what happened with Tia Sharpe, I would not trust any LE.

 

[epiphany]

Or he strangled her, thought she was dead however she wasn't and died of suffocation during transportation.

Injuries to Becky's mouth and nose area are consistent with hand over mouth/nose suffocation according to forensic pathologist's testimony

 

[LBB]

Injuries to Becky's mouth and nose area are consistent with hand over mouth/nose suffocation according to forensic pathologist's testimony

Aaah yes, I forgot that. Thank you.

 

[jessie]

I don't understand the confusion about the neck injuries. this has to do with Becky bleeding from the neck before death, not strangulation marks.

So far all the expert witnesses have been very clear and perfectly concise (although I would have liked to ask them a few questions myself!) - but is it just me that doesn't have the same confidence in this one?
None of what she has answered has been completely clear imo., this is extremely important evidence and facts she is giving for the jury.
The jury aren't experts just everyday people and it needs to be spelt out in words of one syllable for all of us non experts.
This evidence seems to raise more doubt than previously to me.
Does anyone else here understand what it all means with respect to the charges ?
Also these neck injuries - which precise neck injuries is she referring to?

 

[Crazy Mama]

I still think that child could re-enact something or give some clues, or be able to show them something, really. I am guessing she is about 2, in which case she could possibly answer some questions, at least to give clues. My daughter at age 2 could communicate quite well and had a good memory. My son couldn't. Just thinking.