GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #9

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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 31s31 seconds ago
NM says #beckywatts didn't resist, he handcuffed her, tried to disguise his voice
 
  • #802
I have fibro I was diagnosed over 15 years ago I get constant pain and take regular medication for it. I am not buying that NM did all this on his own, no way just the stress of it all would bring on a flare and a flare can last for weeks. I do know that everyone is different with their symptoms I accept that but, I cannot accept the lifting of a body up and down stairs, into a boot of a car, up more stairs into a bath holding a circular saw, I'm sorry no way could he do this without help! I am wondering if he has fibro at all I have known of people who mimic symptoms and get medication just to try and claim benefits believe me it happens!
 
  • #803
Yeah I agree that the clingfilms going to be the sticky point. Even if they did have some small bits and bobs to wrap up during their tidying, would they really have used 3 rolls and needed more the next day?

And why would anyone do a mega clear out at exactly the time that the rest of their family is searching for your missing, presumed at risk, 16 year old stepsister?
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 18s18 seconds ago
NM: mask slipped as he was putting #beckywatts in the suitcase, she resisted as he tried to get her in the case
 
  • #805
And this has been bugging me for a while, how did he think a live 16 year old Becky would fit in that suitcase? Is it even physically possible?

Yeah, the whole "I was going to put her in a suitcase" is so utterly bizarre to me. Firstly, I have the same qualms as you about the size of it, and also how easy it would have been to not only subdue her but then fit her into a suitcase, and transport it? It sounds silly but surely it would've been pretty heavy and she would've been moving around a lot?
 
  • #806
I wonder if she's asking where she was found in her house because she knows that isn't true. Remember she'd been moved from their house and was found in a shed. Not sure why the police are saying her body was found at SH's house.

Maybe they are looking for a reaction from Shauna
 
  • #807
And this has been bugging me for a while, how did he think a live 16 year old Becky would fit in that suitcase? Is it even physically possible?

I've said before that it isn't believable. Her hair and blood were on the boot liner. She would have to have been curled up to put in there and after 8 hours - and longer going by his story (not until 48 hours or so) - with rigor mortis she would have been fixed in that position.
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 38s39 seconds ago
NM says he tried to restrict #beckywatts breathing "so she would pass out"
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 27s27 seconds ago
NM told #beckywatts she would "be released unharmed", so thought of knocking her out, says he "punched her just once"
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 18s18 seconds ago
NM: mask slipped as he was putting #beckywatts in the suitcase, she resisted as he tried to get her in the case

At which point he could easily have explained it as one of his "toilet humour" jokes (his words) along the same lines as the 'pulling out toenails' joke. But no - a sustained attack, strangulation and smothering was the only way to get out of the situation?
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 31s31 seconds ago
NM says #beckywatts didn't resist, he handcuffed her, tried to disguise his voice

sorry but I'm laughing at him now
 
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OK, He knew SH wouldn't have agreed with his plan.. so he carried it ouy when she was with him?? Doesn't ring true
But it's been said that for them to be apart would've been more suspicious and out of character and what better alibi - you were here with me shauna, and we didn't even see Becky ...
 
  • #813
I said in a post up there that it almost feels like NM (and SH, to some degree) is going out of his way to make things that could be easily explained sound suspicious. Even the whole kidnap plan, many posters on here have mentioned that it doesn't really add up (especially in line with SH maintaining her innocence) and to me it seems like it proves intent to an extent and that could be potentially dangerous for NM? I know he's saying that he just wanted to scare RW and not kill her, but it still proves that he did go to the house with the idea of harming her in SOME way in mind, and I feel like that's a risky defence to use? It just seems like he's intent on complicating things more, if that makes sense.
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 27s27 seconds ago
NM told #beckywatts she would "be released unharmed", so thought of knocking her out, says he "punched her just once"

Why is he still going through with it and telling her she'll be released unharmed now she's seen it's him?
 
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I have fibro I was diagnosed over 15 years ago I get constant pain and take regular medication for it. I am not buying that NM did all this on his own, no way just the stress of it all would bring on a flare and a flare can last for weeks. I do know that everyone is different with their symptoms I accept that but, I cannot accept the lifting of a body up and down stairs, into a boot of a car, up more stairs into a bath holding a circular saw, I'm sorry no way could he do this without help! I am wondering if he has fibro at all I have known of people who mimic symptoms and get medication just to try and claim benefits believe me it happens!

I didn't want to say so glad you have brought it up. I don't have fibro, I have had it queried as I suffered from pain, soreness, burning and tinging etc I mean I have crohns and anxiety, the symptoms were from that but one time I cleaned the kitchen, as I have done a million times, but this time I felt like I'd been hit by a bus, could barely walk for over a week. My honest opinion? I think he's a blagger.... I think he plays on it and exaggerates for his own (and SH's) needs
 
  • #816
But it's been said that for them to be apart would've been more suspicious and out of character and what better alibi - you were here with me shauna, and we didn't even see Becky ...

But he goes out without her to help a mate when he buys a saw and she doesn't seem to think that's unusual . Plus we have them texting each other in the past so they're not always together.

Also he had no way of knowing SH or god forbid their little girl wouldn't hear or walk in or look in the boot
 
  • #817
The case doesn't look big enough to put someone inside of does it.
 
  • #818
But it's been said that for them to be apart would've been more suspicious and out of character and what better alibi - you were here with me shauna, and we didn't even see Becky ...

But he seems to go out a fair bit without her? He had a delivery job for a start.
 
  • #819
So is he admitting to smothering Becky, not strangling her?

Or is it not clear?
 
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Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 3m3 minutes ago
Crying can be heard in court as NM says he checked #beckywatts and she didn't have a pulse

Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 2m2 minutes ago
NM says #beckywatts "stopped kicking" after he tried a technique they "used to use at school" to restrict the airway so she "would pass out"
 
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