GUILTY UK - Rebecca Watts, 16, Bristol, 19 Feb 2015 #9

[Scorpio5]

Becky would have recognised his clothes even if he was wearing a mask and changed his voice, after seeing the video with her dad, she doesn't come over as if she would have been compliant and knelt down for him.

 

[ColourPurple]

is cellotape always clear tape?

Don't know about NM but I'd only refer to clear tape as cellotape, they do a wider version as well as the narrow version.

 

[Tortoise]

Totally agree I mowed the lawn last week and for 4 days afterwards I could hardly walk! I think he knows how to work the benefits system!

#I don't think he's faking the illness. he would have medical records for something like that. Shauna's friend (3some) also said he had it and it made him feel inadequate.

 

[ColourPurple]

Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 2m2 minutes ago
NM say he did try to use the stun gun on #beckywatts but "it didn't work"? Says it all "happened really quickly" only about 5-10 minutes

 

[YidArmyRach]

Becky would have recognised his clothes even if he was wearing a mask and changed his voice, after seeing the video with her dad, she doesn't come over as if she would have been compliant and knelt down for him.

I think she'd recognise him by his build, the way he walked, his height and all sorts of things. She'd known him for many years and he was always around her house. I don't believe a mask would fool her ..... or would fool anyone.

 

[Tortoise]

Becky would have recognised his clothes even if he was wearing a mask and changed his voice, after seeing the video with her dad, she doesn't come over as if she would have been compliant and knelt down for him.

the expert said she put up a huge struggle

 

[ColourPurple]

the expert said she put up a huge struggle

Could be he/they went armed with the stun gun so were expecting to just use that straight away and avoid a struggle. Then it didn't work...

 

[epiphany]

Whatever happened to

Knock, knock
Can I speak to you for a minute? (paraphrasing)

 

[Tortoise]

[h=3]'Everything happened really quickly'[/h]Matthews sat with the fingers of both hands entwined and resting on the lectern as the trial resumed.
He was asked why he didn’t go straight to the police.
Matthews said: “ I didn’t want anybody to know what actually happened.
“It was the panic of everybody finding out and being hurt.
“I went in the bedroom and put her phone, laptop and tablet thing and make-up and clothes - and chucked them in the black bag.
“To make it look like she had just gone off somewhere.”
Matthews said he used the stun gun on Becky but it didn’t work.
He put the handcuffs in the suitcase which he put straight into the boot of his car.
Matthews said: “Everything happened really quickly.”
It was only five or ten minutes from the time he killed Becky - until he put her body in the boot of the car, the jury heard.
Matthews returned to the house and met Hoare coming into the house from the garden where she had been smoking a cigarette.
He told the the jury he then slammed the front door a couple of times so Hoare would think it was Becky going out.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 28s29 seconds ago
NM said he went to lift her into the suitcase and she began to struggle and was 'wriggling' #beckywatts


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 2m2 minutes ago
NM: 'I knocked on her door. The door was open straight away I used the sellotape around Becky's mouth'. #beckywatts

Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 48s49 seconds ago
NM says afterwards, with #beckywatts dead in a case in his car he stayed at his mum's house and "told myself to act natural"

 

[Tortoise]

[h=3]'I didn't actually know what to do'[/h]Matthews said he had a cut on his hand and had some of Becky’s blood on him.
He said: “I think there was some on my beany hat.
“I think the right hand side of her lip was bleeding. That was when I hit her.”
The jury heard Matthews sat on the sofa in the house after placing the body in the boot of his car..
He said: “I told myself to act normal. I didn’t actually know what to do.”
The jury heard Matthews and Hoare were still at the house when his mum Anjie returned after her hospital appointment.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

 

[Hexenb]

I have no idea Alyce its very strange then again this whole case is very strange. The only way I could possibly believe it is if he was on steroids I mean script ones I go on them quite a lot with a flare, if on them he might have a bit more strength just thinking how he could have possibly done it especially as he is supposedly got a bad shoulder.

 

[ColourPurple]

'
It was only five or ten minutes from the time he killed Becky - until he put her body in the boot of the car, the jury heard.
Matthews returned to the house and met Hoare coming into the house from the garden where she had been smoking a cigarette.
He told the the jury he then slammed the front door a couple of times so Hoare would think it was Becky going out.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

He met Hoare coming into the house from the garden and THEN slammed the front door a couple of times?

 

[sar2them1984]

Not that I've rtried but I expect it would be extremely difficult to accurately put sellotape on someone's face - I find it hard enough to use on still inanimate objects...

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[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial now6 seconds ago
But NM says that didn't work so he punched her, but he 'didn't feel comfortable' doing that and causing #beckywatts pain


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 1m1 minute ago
NM says he taped her eyes shut, then 'I had my fingers on her nose to restrict her breathing so she would pass out' #beckywatts


ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 2m2 minutes ago
NM says #beckywatts didn't struggle until he tried to put her in the suitcase.



Darren Little ‏@DarrenLittleSky 25s25 seconds ago
NM says he didn't tell Shauna what he'd done, because he "didn't want her to know", he left #beckywatts in the case in his car

 

[ChuckieD]

sorry but I'm laughing at him now

It reminds me of the 'bottles of bleach' scene in the film Four Lions.

 

[ColourPurple]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial 37s38 seconds ago
NM says he then put his hands round her throat, to try and make her pass out, like 'we used to do at school' #beckywatts

 

[epiphany]

Perhaps, she didn't open the door that readily

Who else would it have been with a disguised deep male voice...he had already been jumping out at her to scare her, tease her, according to at least SH

I don't believe she let him in that easily

 

[Tortoise]

ITV Becky Trial ‏@ITVBeckyTrial [video=twitter;659022245927473152]https://twitter.com/ITVBeckyTrial/status/659022245927473152[/video]
NM says he then put his hands round her throat, to try and make her pass out, like 'we used to do at school' #beckywatts

don't think there was any evidence at all of bruising on the neck, in fact I think they specifically said there wasn't

 

[sar2them1984]

[h=3]'Everything happened really quickly'[/h]Matthews sat with the fingers of both hands entwined and resting on the lectern as the trial resumed.
He was asked why he didn’t go straight to the police.
Matthews said: “ I didn’t want anybody to know what actually happened.
“It was the panic of everybody finding out and being hurt.
“I went in the bedroom and put her phone, laptop and tablet thing and make-up and clothes - and chucked them in the black bag.
“To make it look like she had just gone off somewhere.”
Matthews said he used the stun gun on Becky but it didn’t work.
He put the handcuffs in the suitcase which he put straight into the boot of his car.
Matthews said: “Everything happened really quickly.”
It was only five or ten minutes from the time he killed Becky - until he put her body in the boot of the car, the jury heard.
Matthews returned to the house and met Hoare coming into the house from the garden where she had been smoking a cigarette.
He told the the jury he then slammed the front door a couple of times so Hoare would think it was Becky going out.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/becky-watts-murder-trial-live-6713517

I can't bold on here for some reason but NM states in the above that he went into the bedroom to collect Beckys tablet and phone etc..so where exactly was she killed - the landing?

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