GUILTY UK - Sadie Hartley, 60, murdered, Helmshore, Lancs, 14 Jan 2016 #1

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[h=3]Footage 'shows Williams leaving murder scene'[/h][FONT=&quot]The court is shown footage of what the prosecution says is Sarah Williams leaving the murder scene and getting back into the Clio.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A witness gave description of a person they saw at that time including saying they had long and wavy hair.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]McDermott earlier said Katrina Walsh had alopecia and says that she “could never be described as having any hair, wavy or unkept.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says the Clio took a longer “diversionary” route back to Ellesmere Port from Helmshore. He says the journey took around two-and-three-quarter hours. “We cannot account for the whole journey and have no idea what Sarah Williams was doing” he says.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says the car was only found several days after the pair had been arrested with “the deceased’s blood found in the foot well.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says after arriving back Sarah Williams rang Katrina Walsh on their specially bought “dirty phones.”[/FONT]

 

[Alyce]

Link from Chester Chronicle - live updates

So far, seems to be, word for word, same as The Mirror, but will post up in case they vary at all


http://www.chesterchronicle.co.uk/n...news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-11574850

 

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[h=3]“Mission accomplished for both defendants"[/h][FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott says that in the call Sarah Williams “said something to the effect of ‘I’ve killed her, we need to meet up and get rid of the car and other things.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]The jury are now being shown footage of what the prosecution say is the pair meeting up at Westminster car park in Ellesmere Port to “dump” the Clio there.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says a towel and washing up liquid was used to wipe down parts of the Clio. However he says “the blood in the foot well was probably not visible and was certainly missed by both of them.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]They then both leave in Katrina Walsh’s Astra he says.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]It’s unclear who was driving but it took around an hour and a half to return to Sarah Williams’ home in Chester. They claim Walsh left there around midnight.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“Mission accomplished for both the defendants” Mr McDermott adds.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We are now taking a short break.[/FONT]

 

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Around midnight prosecution say Walsh left house with bag and went home. Bag could have had stun gun, knife and boots in

Prosecution say Sadie's body was not found until late the following day. Colleagues raised alarm

Police found boot prints covered in Sadie's blood in the hallway and there were no signs of forced entry

Police swabbed Williams bath and found traces of Sadie's DNA. Glasses in her car with traces of victims blood on


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Williams was arrested and denied murder. She said she wrote letter to Sadie telling her about 12month affair they had

In it she also accuses Sadie of buying Mr Johnston and said the sex they had was the best he'd had



Williams also told police she went up to Ian's old house in Helmshore numerous times and sat outside. She also went in

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When asked by police about stun gun, DNA, knife boots, CCTV and other evidence she said no comment. She was later charged

Walsh found out Williams had been arrested and told witness she had to help because she helped her with marriage breakup

Walsh later told another witness she'd been used and told police she was a patsy. She said she was terrified of Williams

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[FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott says Sadie Hartley’s body wasn’t discovered until late in the evening the following day, Friday 15th January.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Her colleague raised the alarm as it was unusual for there to be no contact via phone or email or the like. He says Sarah Williams’s home and Volvo car were both searched.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Swabs of the bath were were taken and the DNA of Sadie Hartley was revealed. In the Volvo were a pair of glasses and on the lens was Sadie Hartley’s blood.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]A pair of Deichmann boots which the prosecution trace to a shopping trip on 12th January were recovered when Katrina Walsh led the police to their hiding place.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott says “they match the marks left by the murderer.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Miss Williams was arrested in the dead of night on Sunday 17th January 2015. In interview she denied having anything to do with the murder.
http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-11573997

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She said Williams told her to buy 'robust knife' Also said she payed for stun gun in cash and flowers which she delivered

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Walsh said she wasn't present at murder and didn't realise it was real and thought it was a game live TV show the hunted

Asked why she hadn't gone to police about Williams, Walsh said she thought sniper would get her and she was terrified

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[CoverMeCagney]

Walsh said she wasn't present at murder and didn't realise it was real and thought it was a game live TV show the hunted

Asked why she hadn't gone to police about Williams, Walsh said she thought sniper would get her and she was terrified

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What a load of balls! Even if she did think it was the TV show, she would know nobody was going to get snipered. Tut!

Thank you, Tortoise, for keeping us up to date.

 

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Prosecution said Walsh is not stupid and idea she thought it was a game is preposterous invention

Prosecution say they found three phones at the house of Williams one of which can be linked to person who wielded knife

Jury about to be shown pathology imagery showing injuries sustained by Sadie and depict an act of extreme violence

Prosecution say injuries were so severe Sadie had no chance of survival. 24 stab wounds to neck arms head and back.

There were also 17 incised wounds - sharp non stab injuries - to face arms & torso. Also puncture would to arm and back

Paused for lunch prosecution opening will now conclude at 2pm.

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[JerricaBenton]

Yep, huge thanks! I can only follow the Mirror updates, so very grateful for your extra posts.

 

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[h=3]Williams 'wrote to Sadie accusing her of affair'[/h][FONT=&quot]The court is told about a letter Sarah Williams sent to Sadie Hartley claiming she had been having an affair with her partner Ian Johnston.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In it she accused Mrs Hartley of “buying” and “trapping” him and said he was lying to her.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott says it is up to the jury whether that was an act of kindness to warn her, “or, as we suggest, an act of extreme spite.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says “as the evidence was gathering” Miss Williams answered no comment to questions from police and was later charged.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]When Katrina Walsh was arrested she told police in the car “I might have done something, I might have done something, I just don’t remember.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In interview she said she was “petrified” of Williams but she never believed she would carry out the murder.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]She said she knew Miss Williams had a “manic fascination for Ian Johnston and would “do anything to get him.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]She admitted that they had travelled to Germany to buy the stun gun and admitted hiding the stun gun, knife, boots and a dairy.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]She also said Sarah Williams “may have said to me; Take the ***** out of this world to free Ian.”

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-11573997[/FONT]

 

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[h=3]Horrific list of injuries indicate Sadie 'had no chance of survival'[/h][FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott is now going through the pathologist’s report carried out on Sadie Hartley.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says: “With so many serious injuries she had no chance of survival.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Her cause of death was given as “multiple stab and incised wounds.”[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]In total there were 24 stab wounds, six to the head and neck, four to her right arm, five to the back, five to the front of the chest, two to the abdomen and two to the right leg.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-11573997[/FONT]

 

[Alyce]

Just having a browse to see what kind of sentence Walsh may be given.

Here's a recent one where both men got life sentences - the actual murderer got 25 years and his accomplice only slightly less, with 22 years.

http://www.getwestlondon.co.uk/news/west-london-news/life-sentence-ealing-man-who-11409749



Only difference is that the accomplice was present at the murder, which Walsh clearly was not.

Still, does seem as though Walsh can get life, which is good news.

As for her * I thought it was a game, like an episode of Hunter * - her diary entries show that up as a total lie.

 

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[h=3]Prosecution show documents to jury[/h][FONT=&quot]The jury are back in court here in Preston and we are back underway.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Prosecutor John McDermott QC is now going through the final part of his opening of the case.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He is taking them through a bundle of documents and photographs they have been given.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott they include pictures from inside Mrs Hartley’s home one which shows a vase containing flowers.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says the prosecution believe these are the same flowers said to have been delivered by Katrina Walsh on 7th January.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Another shows a white piece of paper, the letter Miss Williams sent Mrs Hartley and which she had kept.[/FONT]
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Sadie Hartley[/FONT]

 

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[h=3]Jury shown replica knife and actual stun gun allegedly used[/h][FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott is holding up and showing a jury a replica of the knife which the prosecution Sarah Williams used to kill Sadie Hartley.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“As you can see” he says, it is a very substantial an lethal knife.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He is also showing them the exact stun gun which they claim was used in the attack.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott says both of these were buried at a farm by at Katrina Walsh.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]He says:[/FONT]

“She (Walsh) says the reason she has to write things down is that her memory is so poor.
“However she remembered in phenomenal detail where she had hidden these items. “If you didn’t know where they were you would probably never find them.”
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[h=3]Prosecution concludes outline of case[/h][FONT=&quot]Mr McDermott says the items were not all buried together, there were three separate sites at Collinge Farm in Backford, Chester, where items were found.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“You may read into that just how good or bad Katrina Walsh’s memory was” he says. “I have given you a very exhaustive overview of the case” he says concluding his opening.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“But that is not evidence and it is the role of the prosecution and no one else to prove the case” he adds.[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]We are taking a break of about 20 minutes until we the first witness in the case is called.

http://www.manchestereveningnews.co.uk/news/local-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-11573997[/FONT]

 

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Jury see photos of inside Sadie's house inc flowers prosecution say are those Walsh delivered. Also letter Williams sent

Also photos of Ian Johnston's former house in Holcombe Road which Williams admits she used to sit outside in her car

Prosecution say when Walsh bought the stun gun in Germany she received a free canister of pepper spray.
Prosecution say Walsh said she had to write everything down because of bad memory but knew where everything was buried

Jurors shown stun gun allegedly used to subdued Sadie before she was stabbed multiple times
Now being shown boots worn by the murderer. Part of the boot had been cut off to try and disguise distinctive pattern
Prosecution say items involved in murder were buried by Walsh at three different locations
Those burial sites were at Collinge Farm, Backfird. That's where Walsh used to work
Prosecution opening finished. Prosecution witnesses next. Start with those who knew Williams and attitude to Ian & Sadie

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[Alyce]

Just adding this link from The Mirror as it shows the complete text of the letter written by Williams to Sadie in August 2014

If true, that's not good at all.


Dear Sadie

“I think you should know that Ian has been cheating on you for over a year.

“He’s been having an affair with me since returning from Camp Suisse in August 2013.


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-8358756