GUILTY UK - Sadie Hartley, 60, murdered, Helmshore, Lancs, 14 Jan 2016 #1

[Tortoise]

Gosh this court means business. I don't know how it's going to last 6-7 weeks at this pace. Still working gone 4.30.

 

[Alyce]

Seems Anne Wood wasn't cross-examined then?

Interesting that Williams barrister didnt ask anything

Although I am wondering what kind of defence they are going to present, the evidence is so strong.

 

[Tortoise]

Mr White said he had known Mr Johnston for a long time and he had never said he was in a relationship with Williams

https://twitter.com/AbanQuaynorLT

 

[Tortoise]

That's it for today.

https://twitter.com/AbanQuaynorLT

 

[Tortoise]

Think the guys at the Mirror must have gone home.

 

[Alyce]

Think the guys at the Mirror must have gone home.

LOL I was just about to say that.... Manchester evening news also packed up early !

 

[Alyce]

Oh no, here we go, Mirror man is back from his break !

We’re now hearing from the last witness of the day, Ralph White, who knew Ian Johnston through skiing.

He says Sarah Williams told him she had strong feelings for Mr Johnston and felt she was using him to “keep tabs on him.”

He says Sarah and Mr Johnston were skiing together quite a bit at the Chill Factore.

He goes on to say Sarah Williams was in fact “infatuated” with him and told him that she would “get him in the end.”

However he adds: “Apart from the fact they got on very well I had no details of the relationship they had.”


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-8358756

 

[Tortoise]

Williams denied having anything to do with the murder but accepted she had had a relationship with Mr Johnston which ended in 'a bad argument'.
Interviewed by detectives, Walsh claimed she was 'petrified' of Williams but that she never believed her friend would carry out the murder.
The horse riding instructor admitted hiding the stun gun and knife at work at Collinge Farm, Chester, along with the diary she kept detailing the murder plot, the jury heard.


She said she hid various items under manure in one of the horses' fields and her diary in the eaves of a roof.
Walsh suggested that she thought she was playing a game of Hunted - a Channel 4 programme in which people attempt to avoid detection by trackers.
Asked by police if she knew what Williams was planning, she replied: 'I got glimpses of it but it all seemed like Hunted, she had me watch Hunted and everything.'


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...-year-old-love-rival-death.html#ixzz4DfDc3hGu

 

[Tortoise]

Few more unreported bits in that article, including details of injuries inflicted.

I remember that programme Hunted now, it was people seeing if they could go on the run and evade capture by police and intelligence services.

 

[Tortoise]

[FONT=&quot]Sarah Williams, 35, and Katrina Walsh, 56, are both jointly standing trial for the murder of Sadie Hartley in January this year. The pair, who deny murder, will seek to blame each other for the crime, Preston crown court heard.

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[/FONT][FONT=&quot]Hartley’s neighbour Frank Unsworth gave police a detailed description of an athletic woman with dark, wavy unkempt hair dressed in walking gear. Prosecutors argued that the description matched that of Williams, and not Walsh, who was described as being “stocky” and “butch-looking”.

[/FONT][FONT=&quot]After the attack, Williams allegedly drove back to Cheshire and met Walsh in a car park near her home. The court heard she tried to clean the inside of the Clio and then abandoned the car before the pair drove away together, ditching their phones. Walsh was then allegedly given the task of destroying the evidence, but the prosecution claimed that she did not carry out these orders correctly.[/FONT][FONT=&quot]McDermott said: “Sarah Williams will have counted on her co-conspirator hiding these things forever. She miscalculated.”
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[FONT=&quot]Clothes allegedly used in the attack were only partially burned and other incriminating items including the boots, knife, stun gun and keys to the Clio were hidden under manure in one of the horses’ fields at Walsh’s stables, rather than destroyed. A towel used to clean the steering wheel of the Clio was hidden in a tack room and Walsh’s diaries were placed in the eaves of the same building.
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[FONT=&quot]After Walsh’s arrest four days after the murder, she led the police to Collinge Farm, where she was a horse riding instructor, and handed over not only her diaries – “detailing the whole dreadful plan” – but also incriminating evidence from the scene.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...rtley-before-fatally-stabbing-her-court-hears[/FONT]

 

[Legally Bland]

If they're going to blame each other I reckon there's a good chance they'll be taking the stand.

ETA, this could be a complete car crash.

 

[JerricaBenton]

I wonder if WIlliam's is going to say that Walsh wrote the diary to shift the blame if they were ever caught? That Walsh committed the murder but wrote the diary to say Wlliam's did it, and that is why she didn't burn it.

 

[Alyce]

Court back in session

following tweets are from Lancashire Crime journo


Aban Quaynor ‏@AbanQuaynorLT 13m13 minutes ago

Jury back in. Witness Richard Savery says Williams was engaged to David Hardwick

 

[Alyce]

A bit hard to follow this - but does show Williams has form or intent for killing anyone who she perceives as a problem !!




Aban Quaynor ‏@AbanQuaynorLT 6m6 minutes ago
Mr S said Williams threatened to kill male partner of friend who friend had problem with
He said Mr Hardwick was worried

 

[Alyce]

Live feed is up now, from The Mirror


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-8367540

 

[Alyce]

Williams was 'infatuated' with Johnston

Richard Savery was a ski instructor at the Chill Factore snow sports centre near the Trafford Centre. That’s where he met Sarah Williams.

He says he believed she was engaged to David Hardwick, a man who the court yesterday heard is in his seventies and was her boyfriend.

However Mr Savery also says he also learned Miss Williams was having a relationship with Sadie’s partner Ian Johnston.

He says Miss Williams was “infatuated” with him. He describes one incident during a Christmas party at the Castle In The Sky pub next to the Chill Factore where Sarah WIlliams, Sadie and Ian Johnston were present.

Mr Savery says Sarah WIlliams told him she had earlier been chatting to Ian Johnston at the bar. He says Miss Williams told him: “He’s going to get himself in big trouble.

“If she (Sadie) had a go at me, I’ll smack her.”


http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-8367540

 

[Alyce]

Aban Quaynor ‏@AbanQuaynorLT 2m2 minutes ago

Mr Savery described Williams as 'unhinged' and 'psychotic'. He believed she was having relationship with Mr Johnston

 

[Alyce]

It was as if he believed she might carry it through'

Mr Savery also describes another incident where a friend told Sarah Williams she was having problems with her partner and Sarah “threatened to kill him.”

I would normally interpret that as a light hearted comment however she was with David (Hardwick) at the time and he said ‘don’t say things like that people might believe them.’ It was his reaction that shocked me. It was as if he believed she might carry it through.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/sadie-hartley-murder-trial-live-8367540

 

[Alyce]

Aban Quaynor ‏@AbanQuaynorLT 12 minutes ago

Witness Natalie Chapman said Williams' told her she wanted to marry Ian Johnston and have his children

 

[Alyce]

Aban Quaynor ‏@AbanQuaynorLT 8m8 minutes ago

She said Williams forced her way in to Ian's house in 2014 and refused to leave He had to go so she laid naked in his bed