UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #3

[FlamingLily]

MOO I think anything is possible - it’s so messed up, so many contradictions, so much nonsense.

Still quite bizarre seeing them all calmly arriving on the plane together and now tearing each other apart. There's a clip on the Internet of two dogs that snap ferociously at each other through a glass door then are chill when it's open. Ha.

 

[Sooty]

C'mon!
Their ship is sinking.
Am I the only one to see this???

JMO

What do you see, Dotta?

I don’t see anything clearly here, which is the intention of course.

 

[Dotta]

What do you see, Dotta?

I don’t see anything clearly here, which is the intention of course.

I see 3 keys that are thrown away!
Ha!

PS
And I tell you something in secret
I'm (nearly) always right.
Shhhh.....

OK
"Nearly" is a key word hehe

 

[Nikynoo]

Does anyone think urfan and malik will escape justice and bienash will be deemed as the only one who killed and abused Sara. The defence so far seems to be heading in that direction. I literally scream when I read urfans defence account .
I'm actually starting to feel sorry for bienash living with that manipulative, vindictive, lying individual. Obviously I know she is just as guilty but my God his self preservation and fake victimhood knows no bounds like seriously does he expect people to believe he is the victim in all this . From all the cases I've read on WS about abuses against children I've never seen a defendant so adamant that they are the victim

No, I don’t think U will be found not guilty. Ultimately, he was responsible for the well being of Sara. IMO, both U and B will be found guilty. The jury will see through U. I’ll be interested to see which way the brother will go. I suspect he will support his brother, in which case it will sink him. If his lawyer is smart, he will deny all knowledge and not put him in the stand. The prosecution didn’t say much about the brother did they?

 

[PKFS]

I was interested to read that Sharif told jurors that he had to sit in the car with Sara when Batool visited her family because of his daughter’s mixed heritage.

Sara Sharif’s father ‘cursed’ himself for leaving dead daughter ‘like orphan’

The 10-year-old’s father Urfan Sharif, 42, stepmother Beinash Batool, 30, and uncle Faisal Malik, 29, deny her murder.

www.standard.co.uk

Why would that be? Was Batool / her family racist against Sara's Polish heritage?

Please note I am not stating this to instigate any racist views in this forum but to try understand the statement Sharif gave accounting for Sara's mixed heritage.

Was this the reason for such violence from Batool towards Sara? Was this why Batool's sister Qandeela didnt alert the police? Is this why Qandeela, having heard Sara has been beaten up so badly, would respond ‘LOL’?

Perhaps the boy was not touched as he is a) bigger and b) first son so cannot be harmed.

JMO- again, I say this due to its relevance in this case.

 

[PKFS]

Funnily enough, I was just thinking of this. There has been nothing reported of this to my knowledge.

Yeaah, Batool wasnt covering her bruises was she?! Coz there weren't any...

Dont get me wrong - I know that with domestic abuse, not all bruises are visible. But in this case if the person who was abusing Sara was also abusing Batool, then the bruises would be similar.

Also, none of the thousands of texts to her sister mentions anything about Sharif hitting her.. just about him hitting Sara.

 

[Dotta]

I was interested to read that Sharif told jurors that he had to sit in the car with Sara when Batool visited her family because of his daughter’s mixed heritage.

Sara Sharif’s father ‘cursed’ himself for leaving dead daughter ‘like orphan’

The 10-year-old’s father Urfan Sharif, 42, stepmother Beinash Batool, 30, and uncle Faisal Malik, 29, deny her murder.

www.standard.co.uk

Why would that be? Was Batool / her family racist against Sara's Polish heritage?

Please note I am not stating this to instigate any racist views in this forum but to try understand the statement Sharif gave accounting for Sara's mixed heritage.

Was this the reason for such violence from Batool towards Sara? Was this why Batool's sister Qandeela didnt alert the police? Is this why Qandeela, having heard Sara has been beaten up so badly, would respond ‘LOL’?

Perhaps the boy was not touched as he is a) bigger and b) first son so cannot be harmed.

JMO- again, I say this due to its relevance in this case.

I think
it was another arrow found by U & Defence to pierce B.

After all,
her family was against marriage with U.
Didn't her father "cut ties" with B for eloping to marry U?

So U sat in the car
(with his daughter) to avoid meeting B's family members.

IMO this "racism" is really imaginary problem.

Meaning:
Not racism was a problem,
but U for the family of B.

Typical twisting facts to fit defence tactic.
Half truths.

JMO

The latest update from DM

"He said he was unaware his wife had bought 12 rolls of parcel tape allegedly to construct home-made hoods, taping plastic bags around the victim’s face.
........

Later the court heard that Sharif loved his wife so much
that he spent £7,500 on gold jewellery for her."

Sara Sharif's father says he curses himself for abandoning her

Urfan Sharif (pictured) accepted he had called 999 from Pakistan to admit killing the 10-year-old, but he claimed yesterday it was a false confession 'to protect his family'.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Sooty]

I was interested to read that Sharif told jurors that he had to sit in the car with Sara when Batool visited her family because of his daughter’s mixed heritage.

Sara Sharif’s father ‘cursed’ himself for leaving dead daughter ‘like orphan’

The 10-year-old’s father Urfan Sharif, 42, stepmother Beinash Batool, 30, and uncle Faisal Malik, 29, deny her murder.

www.standard.co.uk

Why would that be? Was Batool / her family racist against Sara's Polish heritage?

Please note I am not stating this to instigate any racist views in this forum but to try understand the statement Sharif gave accounting for Sara's mixed heritage.

Was this the reason for such violence from Batool towards Sara? Was this why Batool's sister Qandeela didnt alert the police? Is this why Qandeela, having heard Sara has been beaten up so badly, would respond ‘LOL’?

Perhaps the boy was not touched as he is a) bigger and b) first son so cannot be harmed.

JMO- again, I say this due to its relevance in this case.

imo the word ‘family’ can be a wide reach - we are told that BB was cut off from her family due to her relationship with U. We are also told of Sara sat between two aunts in the garden (BB sisters? It fits?) We are told that BB messages two sisters often. So who are the family that BB visits with the children, but U and Sara must sit in the car? Does N have to sit in the car too?
Did this happen one time? Often? Why did U go if this was the case? It is an unnecessary and cruel experience for a child to endure, if it it true.

 

[Kittypoo]

imo the word ‘family’ can be a wide reach - we are told that BB was cut off from her family due to her relationship with U. We are also told of Sara sat between two aunts in the garden (BB sisters? It fits?) We are told that BB messages two sisters often. So who are the family that BB visits with the children, but U and Sara must sit in the car? Does N have to sit in the car too?
Did this happen one time? Often? Why did U go if this was the case? It is an unnecessary and cruel experience for a child to endure, if it it true.

Exactly more evidence’ that makes no sense. Why would anyone take their child to visit in laws only to be forced to sit in the car. You would stay home/ drop the wife. U is a taxi driver after all.
Such drivel I wonder what the jury are making of it all.. MOO

 

[Dotta]

“Social services ​

'abandoned investigation into Sara Sharif's injuries reported by her school'.​

Girl gave different explanations for her injuries,
Old Bailey jury is told.

Surrey County Council social services closed an investigation into injuries on Sara Sharif six days after getting a referral from the 10-year-old’s school,
an Old Bailey jury has been told.

The court heard that a report was entered into the school’s child protection monitoring system on 10 March last year about a staff member spotting bruises on Sara’s chin and eye,
The Times reported.

'On 16 March 2023,
a decision was made by social services to take no further action',
Mr Emlyn Jones said.

Rachael Wardell,
executive director of Children, Families and Lifelong Learning at Surrey County Council said:  
'This is an incredibly sad case, and I speak for everyone at Surrey County Council when I say our thoughts and deepest condolences are with all those who loved Sara'."

Social services 'halted investigation into Sara Sharif's injuries'

Girl gave different explanations for her injuries, Old Bailey jury is told

www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk

 

[Moll]

“Social services ​

'abandoned investigation into Sara Sharif's injuries reported by her school'.​

Girl gave different explanations for her injuries,
Old Bailey jury is told.

Surrey County Council social services closed an investigation into injuries on Sara Sharif six days after getting a referral from the 10-year-old’s school,
an Old Bailey jury has been told.

The court heard that a report was entered into the school’s child protection monitoring system on 10 March last year about a staff member spotting bruises on Sara’s chin and eye,
The Times reported."

Social services 'halted investigation into Sara Sharif's injuries'

Girl gave different explanations for her injuries, Old Bailey jury is told

www.wokingnewsandmail.co.uk

Seems extraordinary, doesn't it?
This article from August about social service failings is still relevant. The police also said in August that the family had been known to police for years.

‘Sara Sharif was let down by people meant to protect her’: Campaigner warns authorities are guilty of a ‘catastrophic’ safeguarding failure after it emerged ten-year-old was on social services’ radar before she was murdered | Sacpa

A campaigner for children in care has accused the authorities of a 'catastrophic' safeguarding failure after the local council admitted Sara Sharif was known to them before she was found dead at her home in Woking. The death of the ten-year-old girl, who was 'on the radar', has sparked an...

www.sacpa.org.uk

 

[Dotta]

From DM
I must have missed this earlier,
Prosecution presents:

"In some messages Batool told her sister not to call her because Urfan was at home.

In one message on 12 February 2022 Batool messaged her sister saying that Urfan had arrived home and her sister replied
'it's okay. Just ignore. In one ear out the other.'

Batool then told her:
'He's beating Sara up.'

'Why. He's not okay',
the sister replied.

'Cause she's being naughty. Sara has anxiety. Whatever she eats she vomits out',
Batool said.

'That's not good',
the sister replied.

'She's a child, I think grown ups need to understand,'
Batool said.

'Yeah of course but tell her to behave',
the sister replied.

'I do like 20 times a day',
Batool said.

'Clearly Urfan won't understand- you need to tell Sara. Bribe her',
the sister replied.

'I do, bought her a toy,
let's see.
Urfan's behaviour makes her do it more',
Batool said.

'If something happens to Sara I will not be able to forgive myself',
the sister said.

Batool claims Urfan was
abusing both her and Sara,

while he claims Batool was responsible for the killing."

WhatsApp messages from Sara Sharif's step-mother reveal abuse

Urfan Sharif, 42, the father of the 10-year-old, his wife Beinash Batool, 30, and brother, Faisal Malik, 29, all deny murder and causing or allowing the death of a child.

www-dailymail-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org

 

[Lucy6226]

I would be interested to know whether social services closed after receiving the referral, or after a child and family assessment and whether a strategy meeting or child protection conference was held. The latter is multi agency decision making, not just social services. It's possible police and health raised no concerns. A plausible reason was given for the bruises and the case was closed.

I'm sure there will be a full inquiry which will disclose the full details. I suspect it was closed at 'front door' level as someone decided (with manager oversight) that it didn't meet the threshold for assessment or intervention. All moo

 

[Dotta]

I would be interested to know whether social services closed after receiving the referral, or after a child and family assessment and whether a strategy meeting or child protection conference was held. The latter is multi agency decision making, not just social services. It's possible police and health raised no concerns. A plausible reason was given for the bruises and the case was closed.

I'm sure there will be a full inquiry which will disclose the full details. I suspect it was closed at 'front door' level as someone decided (with manager oversight) that it didn't meet the threshold for assessment or intervention. All moo

And I suspect
that Social S. avoid intervening in certain communities for fear of being accused of "racism".

But, of course,
as I don't live in the UK,
I might be wrong.

Just my hunch.

JMO as always

 

[Lucy6226]

And I suspect
that Social S. avoid intervening in certain communities for fear of being accused of "racism".

But, of course,
as I don't live in the UK,
I might be wrong.

Just my hunch.

JMO

It's certainly been raised as an issue in other cases I believe.


'There may also be a fear of being seen as racist or prejudiced when challenging
families who are from different backgrounds (Laming, 2003). One review (concerning
working with Pakistani families) referred to this as a ‘gap area with little wider
awareness and no training available … [this can contribute to a] lack of curiosity and
potentially a reluctance to ask or challenge things in case this may be viewed as
offensive or not even considered’.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/media/6396fdf8e90e077c33497013/Learning_for_the_future_-_final_analysis_of_serious_case_reviews__2017_to_2019.pdf&ved=2ahUKEwipp_2Np8qJAxVmSUEAHVyhJPs4ChAWegQIEhAB&usg=AOvVaw0vIJJ0kX3nCrbDNrP0wZwp

Safeguarding children from Black, Asian and minoritised ethnic communities | NSPCC Learning

Summarises the evidence about the experiences of young people from Black, Asian and minoritised ethnic communities in the child protection system and shares learning for best practice.

learning.nspcc.org.uk

 

[Twick]

Still quite bizarre seeing them all calmly arriving on the plane together and now tearing each other apart. There's a clip on the Internet of two dogs that snap ferociously at each other through a glass door then are chill when it's open. Ha.

We had a terrier like that. Would threaten murder and mayhem on other dogs from his seat in the car - then fell silent if we stopped and opened the door.

 

[Nikynoo]

And I suspect
that Social S. avoid intervening in certain communities for fear of being accused of "racism".

But, of course,
as I don't live in the UK,
I might be wrong.

Just my hunch.

JMO as always

You may be right. But from personal experience, I don't think race comes into it.

 

[Nikynoo]

I would be interested to know whether social services closed after receiving the referral, or after a child and family assessment and whether a strategy meeting or child protection conference was held. The latter is multi agency decision making, not just social services. It's possible police and health raised no concerns. A plausible reason was given for the bruises and the case was closed.

I'm sure there will be a full inquiry which will disclose the full details. I suspect it was closed at 'front door' level as someone decided (with manager oversight) that it didn't meet the threshold for assessment or intervention. All moo

I agree. This is more likely.

 

[Dotta]

Curiouser & Curiouser

"Mr Sharif told a jury at the Old Bailey on Thursday
that Ms Batool forced him to slap his daughter.

He went on to say that Ms Batool would blame Sara
'for everything'.

'That poor girl always been accused by that psycho sitting there, that psycho sitting there,
she always accused my daughter',
said Mr Sharif.

He denied beating Sara,
but said:

'I have slapped her,
multiple times and it's only because

I was made to'."

Sara Sharif's dad says stepmum 'psycho', jury told

Sara Sharif's father, Urfan Sharif, has been giving evidence at the Old Bailey.

ca.news.yahoo.com

"Father of Sara Sharif says his wife is
‘an animal’ and a ‘psycho’
and again blames her
for the murder and torture of the ten-year-schoolgirl."

https://twitter.com/x/status/1854514974992773364

Ummm...
Didn't he say yesterday that he loved B and bought her gold jewellery as a sign of his devotion?
Go figure...

 

[Twick]

While each marriage has its own dynamic, it’s hard to see how the wife in this situation could force her husband hit Sara against his will. Perhaps he really means “she told me Sara had misbehaved, and of course that forced me to beat her.”