GUILTY UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #4

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Also interesting that Faisal's defence counsel is stressing that Urfan Sharif wanted to frame Beinash Batool - it's not just her counsel's line.
 
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Also interesting that Faisal's defence counsel is stressing that Urfan Sharif wanted to frame Beinash Batool - it's not just her counsel's line.

Maybe uncle is afraid of being "framed" too?

I see them all framed in mugshots :rolleyes:

JMO
 
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Maybe uncle is afraid of being "framed" too?

I see them all framed in mugshots :rolleyes:

JMO
With US in the heaviest frame?
 
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Faisal Malik had spent increasing time away due to family’s cramped living conditions​

Speaking of his brother’s presence in the household, Sharif confirmed that Faisal Malik spent large portions of his spare time out of the cramped flat in West Byfleet.
Neighbours had previously given evidence that they heard “screaming and crying” as well as the rattling of doors while the family were living at the small maisonette.
As a result of Malik moving to the UK to study in Portsmouth in December 2022 and staying with his older brother, Batool was required to “cover up” while Malik had to maintain his distance.
The court heard that Malik had then moved with the couple in April 2023 to their council home in Woking, but had to remain “cautious” given that he legally should not have been residing at the property.
 
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Faisal Malik had spent increasing time away due to family’s cramped living conditions​

Speaking of his brother’s presence in the household, Sharif confirmed that Faisal Malik spent large portions of his spare time out of the cramped flat in West Byfleet.
Neighbours had previously given evidence that they heard “screaming and crying” as well as the rattling of doors while the family were living at the small maisonette.
As a result of Malik moving to the UK to study in Portsmouth in December 2022 and staying with his older brother, Batool was required to “cover up” while Malik had to maintain his distance.
The court heard that Malik had then moved with the couple in April 2023 to their council home in Woking, but had to remain “cautious” given that he legally should not have been residing at the property.

He could have lived in the shed.
 
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Snipped from Smithpanes post 219 - above


Jurors also heard that Sharif had been raised in Pakistan and that his parents had not instilled a disciplinarian regime towards their children.
He admitted that his ideas of discipline, which he used against Sara, had “come from him”.

“Did you have an idea about how children should be punished? Is that the truth about all of this?”, Mr Ivers KC asked.

“There’s certain things I can’t explain,
I have no words,” Sharif said.




BIB One
and US and BBs children ( plus Olga's son ) are - currently - being brought up with the same attitude towards discipline :(


BIB Two - for once, I agree with him
 
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.The court heard that Malik had then moved with the couple in April 2023 to their council home in Woking, but had to remain “cautious” given that he legally should not have been residing at the property.


Many of us said he was not supposed to have been living there.
 
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Faisal Malik had spent increasing time away due to family’s cramped living conditions​

Speaking of his brother’s presence in the household, Sharif confirmed that Faisal Malik spent large portions of his spare time out of the cramped flat in West Byfleet.
Neighbours had previously given evidence that they heard “screaming and crying” as well as the rattling of doors while the family were living at the small maisonette.
As a result of Malik moving to the UK to study in Portsmouth in December 2022 and staying with his older brother, Batool was required to “cover up” while Malik had to maintain his distance.
The court heard that Malik had then moved with the couple in April 2023 to their council home in Woking, but had to remain “cautious” given that he legally should not have been residing at the property.
If Malik really was studying at the University of Portsmouth, then it's probably true that he wasn't around very much. It's 50 miles from Woking to Portsmouth, so that's a 100 mile round trip. You do have to wonder how somebody who's already paying through the nose for course fees (no student loans for foreign students), would be able to afford that much travelling?
 
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If Malik really was studying at the University of Portsmouth, then it's probably true that he wasnt't around very much. It's 50 miles from Woking to Portsmouth, so that's a 100 mile round trip. You do have to wonder how somebody who's already paying through the nose for course fees (no student loans for foreign students), would be able to afford that much travelling?
possibly a student railcard
 
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possibly a student railcard
Gets you 1/3 off, and there is a direct line from Woking to Portsmouth. A return ticket from Woking to Portsmouth seems to be £30.80, so that's £20.50 with a student railcard. That would soon start racking up if you're doing it every day. I doubt he was paying much rent to Urfan and Batool in order to illegally live in their council house, though.
 
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Possibly not attending college. He was working in Woking McDonald's.
He would only have been able to do that for up to 20hrs a week under the terms of his student visa, though.
 
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Sharif claims to have used cricket bat only once​

Giving a contrasting version from Wednesday’s admissions, Sharif maintained he had only used the cricket bat once on his daughter and had not hit her on the head.
When repeatedly asked to explain how Sara had died, Sharif responded: “I can’t explain.”
Speaking of his family’s reaction in Pakistan, Mr Ivers KC said: “It will have come as a body blow to all of them when they read it yesterday because you’ve lied to everyone haven’t you?”
Sharif nods and confirms.
“You’re busy pointing the blame at everyone else but yourself, is that fair?”, to which Sharif said: “Yes sir.”
He also claimed that on the day of her death, he had seen Sara sitting watching TV while eating snacks, and denied that he had been forced to return from Pakistan due to “pressure” placed upon his family.
 
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Gets you 1/3 off, and there is a direct line from Woking to Portsmouth. A return ticket from Woking to Portsmouth seems to be £30.80, so that's £20.50 with a student railcard. That would soon start racking up if you're doing it every day. I doubt he was paying much rent to Urfan and Batool in order to illegally live in their council house, though.
It depends what course he was doing (if he was actually attending), most degrees you don’t have to attend every day and some classes are remote.
 
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Trial adjourns for lunch​

The trial has adjourned for the lunch break and will resume at 2pm.
 
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I do wonder whether M is the family’s (back in Pakistan) ‘golden child’ and the trip to Pakistan was to be told who would take the blame.
 
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It depends what course he was doing (if he was actually attending), most degrees you don’t have to attend every day and some classes are remote.
Evidence about this will surely come out.
I must admit I assumed he was just doing what Urfan had done (on the basis of my own experience teaching on summer pre-course English courses in a London university, where several students came once to enlist, then never again, but that was 15 years ago) and not regularly attending even remotely.
 
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Gets you 1/3 off, and there is a direct line from Woking to Portsmouth. A return ticket from Woking to Portsmouth seems to be £30.80, so that's £20.50 with a student railcard. That would soon start racking up if you're doing it every day. I doubt he was paying much rent to Urfan and Batool in order to illegally live in their council house, though.
season tickets are cheaper, but I doubt that if he was attending, it was not every day.
 
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I take responsibility for it,’ says Sharif​

Urfan Sharif has once again admitted responsibility for Sara Sharif’s death, after giving conflicting versions of events on both Wednesday and Thursday.
Under cross examination, he said that he had been aware of Sara’s injuries and the full extent of them once he was arrested and interviewed by the police.
 
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Prosecution begins to examine Sara’s father​

Prosecutor William Emlyn-Jones KC has begun to question Sara Sharif’s father.
In his final stage of cross-examination by his brother’s lawyer Michael Ivers KC, he insisted he had returned back to the UK in September 2023 for his daughter.
He agreed that he had not carried out his abuse in front of his brother, nor had they informed his parents in Pakistan of Sara’s abuse, as this would have “gone down like a lead balloon”.
 
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