GUILTY UK - Sara Sharif, 10, found murdered in house, Surrey, Aug 2023 *POIs ARREST* #4

[Doesitmakesense]

He continues to deny her murder, telling the court: “She died because of me. I didn’t want to kill her.”

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

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IMO I feel he is choosing his words very carefully. Eg. "I'm responsible" "she died because of me". He's not flat out saying he did anything. Or admitting guilt. The impression I get is him saying woe is me, she was my daughter so it was my fault.

 

[su5ie]

IMO I feel he is choosing his words very carefully. Eg. "I'm responsible" "she died because of me". He's not flat out saying he did anything. Or admitting guilt. The impression I get is him saying woe is me, she was my daughter so it was my fault.

Yes definitely a play on words so to speak, a sentence which can have two meanings . One" I'm responsible for her death I killed her ". Second meaning "I'm responsible as I didn't ensure her safety and allowed her to be killed " or as I suspect urfan is saying "I'm responsible as I should have noticed what was going on ".

I think I'm so sickened by urfan as he is saying he is guilty without admittance of actual guilt and he is toying with everyone just like he did with Sara he hasn't any remorse.
He is actually insane and I don't know if that's his game to claim insanity im sure psychologists are having a field day with his mental gymnastics.
Most defendants in cases like this will deny I expected that but this manipulation is taking it to another level of depravity.

The jury will see through him no doubt about it . He is getting locked up and the key thrown away . But will it be a psychiatric unit or a normal prison that remains to be seen .

Interesting that his brothers defence team is geared up to put the blame squarely at urfans feet too . I knew bienash and himself would go head to head and point the finger of blame at each other but I'm surprised malik didn't stay on the same page as urfan and blame bienash too .

I suppose all 3 defendants would have access to the book of evidence and by speaking with their barristers would decide the best route to take .

 

[Charlot123]

Some people hate or punish people who remind them of themselves, especially if they feel like the younger person should suffer like they did. It's a way to make themselves feel powerful, and probably is a negative kind of transference. The child becomes a poppet (what is often incorrectly called a Voodoo doll by westerners). They hate to see the child's happiness, potential, and youth (things the abuser feels they have lost themselves) and punish them to death for it.

MOO

The relationship between Urfan and Beinash was strange, I see some codependency there. For example, if there was DV towards Beinash, why continue bearing his kids? I suspect that Beinash wanted to give Urfan another son, that’s why. And remember Urfan saying that Sara was the first girl born in their family for generations? Could Beinash be comparing her daughters to Sara and feeling jealous?

 

[Nikynoo]

Yes definitely a play on words so to speak, a sentence which can have two meanings . One" I'm responsible for her death I killed her ". Second meaning "I'm responsible as I didn't ensure her safety and allowed her to be killed " or as I suspect urfan is saying "I'm responsible as I should have noticed what was going on ".

I think I'm so sickened by urfan as he is saying he is guilty without admittance of actual guilt and he is toying with everyone just like he did with Sara he hasn't any remorse.
He is actually insane and I don't know if that's his game to claim insanity im sure psychologists are having a field day with his mental gymnastics.
Most defendants in cases like this will deny I expected that but this manipulation is taking it to another level of depravity.

The jury will see through him no doubt about it . He is getting locked up and the key thrown away . But will it be a psychiatric unit or a normal prison that remains to be seen .

Interesting that his brothers defence team is geared up to put the blame squarely at urfans feet too . I knew bienash and himself would go head to head and point the finger of blame at each other but I'm surprised malik didn't stay on the same page as urfan and blame bienash too .

I suppose all 3 defendants would have access to the book of evidence and by speaking with their barristers would decide the best route to take .

I can guarantee he is not insane. He is just controlling and cannot face accepting guilt. Isn't he just a plain old narcissist?

 

[FlamingLily]

I can guarantee he is not insane. He is just controlling and cannot face accepting guilt. Isn't he just a plain old narcissist?

I wonder, seeing as he controls his partners' (hostages') credit cards, if he was the one who ordered all the rolls of tape? And if all three grownups had tape "on tap" to control the kids. I've been mentally linking the tape and bitemarks to the same abuser, B. Also what's unsettling about this case is the evil:innocence ratio in that dreadful house. Three amoral adults against those kids. Like the Logan Mwangi case. The odds are too awful to think about.

 

[Alyce]

The Independent is posting this morning ( reviews from earlier evidence ) so it's possible they may run a live blog when Court begins ( 10am ).

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Alyce]

The court heard Sara suffered a number of spine fractures from the beatings, similar to those sustained when a child falls 20ft from a roof.

Mr Emlyn Jones pressed: “You did that to Sara by hitting her with the force as if she had fallen from a second storey roof again and again and again. Last time to do the decent thing:
When you beat Sara so hard with a cricket bat that you broke her spine did you intend to cause her at least a serious injury.”


Sharif replied: “No.”

‘Inhuman’ violence inflicted on Sara Sharif ‘normalised’ by defendants

More disturbing details about Sara's injuries have emerged in court

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[Moll]

The court heard Sara suffered a number of spine fractures from the beatings, similar to those sustained when a child falls 20ft from a roof.

Mr Emlyn Jones pressed: “You did that to Sara by hitting her with the force as if she had fallen from a second storey roof again and again and again. Last time to do the decent thing: When you beat Sara so hard with a cricket bat that you broke her spine did you intend to cause her at least a serious injury.”


Sharif replied: “No.”

‘Inhuman’ violence inflicted on Sara Sharif ‘normalised’ by defendants

More disturbing details about Sara's injuries have emerged in court

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Exactly: Mr Emlyn Jones brought out Sharif's total lack of decency even more clearly yesterday. What Sharif says about his intention to cause serious harm, trying to get out of a murder conviction, has ceased to have any meaning or relevance. The jury has so much horrific evidence and has seen and heard his endless lies.

 

[Dotta]

"What is set to happen today?​

The cross-examination of Urfan Sharif is set to resume once again,
with prosecutor William Emlyn-Jones KC
to continue questioning.

On Thursday,
he called the taxi driver a 'coward' as jurors heard that violence was
'completely normalised' within their household,
as Sara’s father admitted using a cricket bat on his daughter."

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

Sharif admits restraining Sara to beat her.​

Opening questioning by repeating Urfan Sharif’s previous admissions to Batool’s lawyer Caroline Carberry KC,
prosecutor William Emlyn-Jones KC asked:

“In the last few weeks of Sara’s life,
there were occasions she was bound with tape?”
“Yes,” he replied.
“And then she said bound by you?”
“ Yes,” Sharif said.
“You are accepting that?”,
Mr Emlyn-Jones probed to which Sharif agreed.

The taxi driver denied that the two other defendants assisted him in restraining the schoolgirl.

“You’re taking that one?,”
the prosecutor asked.
“Yes,” he replied.

He admitted that he had bound his daughter by the hands and wrists and had then beaten her with a pole.

“We have to imagine Sara being restrained by packing tape,
if she wasn’t defencless enough against you with a weapon Mr Sharif,
and when bound you beat her with the pole yes?”,
the prosecutor asked.
“Yes sir,” he admitted while shaking his head.

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

From G Dragon's report yesterday

"The barrister drew a comparison with Sharif’s family life in Pakistan
where aunts and
uncles
would help bringing up the children,
but Sharif denied that was the case in their household in England.

Sharif accepted he was a strict disciplinarian and Sara must have been frightened of him.

When asked if Batool complained about Sara being naughty,
Sharif said she would sometimes call him and he would come home from work to deal with it.

Sharif was asked about the hoods found at the address.
Sharif denied that these were used on Sara."

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[Moll]

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

Urfan Sharif left his phone in Pakistan so the police could not get hold of the mass of messages that the prosecution believe were on it between him and Beinash Batool along the lines of the ones they do have, e.g.
'Sara cut my laces. You and Sara have made my life*. Once she is at home, sort her out before I do.'

Surely all this along with the lies in court constitutes perverting the course of justice and/or perjury and/or contempt of court - but perhaps as we don't have the hundred-year sentences they have in the US, it's not thought worth charging him on top of everything else?

* word such as 'hell',as mentioned in earlier evidence, missing either in the text or the report, I think.

 

[Alyce]

Mr Ivers told the jury that Malik decided to return to the UK and told Sharif and Batool of his plans, at which time the pair needed to make the decision whether to come with him. Sharif agreed that this was correct.

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[Alyce]

Urfan Sharif denied assaulting Sara over the weekend before her death​

Sara Sharif’s father maintained that he had only beaten his daughter twice with a metal pole on her abdomen on the Tuesday evening while she lay dying, and had not assaulted her in the previous days.
“That weekend she suffered a brain injury from blunt force trauma to her head,” Mr Emlyn Jones KC said. “She had suffered a concusion which was at least 48 hours old, which takes us to Sunday evening and leads us to the weekend.”
“That’s not right sir,” he responded.
He also claimed that he was only inside the property for a few minutes after returning from work before Sara passed away.

You didn’t do anything to help her did you? Three adults in that house, all with telephones, any one of them could take Sara to the hospital,” the prosecutor said.
He admitted he had lied about Batool insisting they did not contact the emergency services, and said he was “scared” when deciding to flee to Pakistan.
“None of you wanted the police anywhere near the place,” Mr Emlyn-Jones said.

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[FlamingLily]

Mr Ivers told the jury that Malik decided to return to the UK and told Sharif and Batool of his plans, at which time the pair needed to make the decision whether to come with him. Sharif agreed that this was correct.

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We still need a LOT more clarity on "invisible man" Malik. Where did he stay in the 3 bedroom house? He would have heard thwacks, thumps and screams no matter when he was home. Sarah might have called specific names of family members who might show her mercy (I'm thinking her older brother or Malik). Even gagged victims produce sound. I don't believe Sharif when he said he kept the violence "separate" from his brother incase his brother told their father. Why report normalised violence? I think spineless Malik was manipulated at least into helping hold her down or something where he got his DNA on the belt. JMO.

 

[Alyce]

Sara Sharif’s father denies Beinash Batool had already assaulted schoolgirl​

Urfan Sharif has denied that Beinash Batool had previously assaulted Sara as she lay dying, before calling him to ask him to return home from his work shift.
“Was the pole already in the room because before you got back, she had already been assaulted by the pole for ‘pretending’ to be ill and you came in and took over as you had done before?,” Mr Emlyn-Jones asked.
“Sara is being disciplined but sometimes the big stick is required so then you get the call, ‘she’s being naughty, she’s your daughter’, is that why the pole was in the room and you beat her while she was dying?”
“I didn’t know she was dying,” he responded.
During this exchange, the prosecutor accused Sharif of looking at Beinash Batool in the dock.

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Alyce]

8 minutes ago

Prosecution finishes cross-examination​

Prosecutor William Emlyn-Jones KC has finished his cross-examination of Urfan Sharif.
His own lawyer Naeem Mian KC is set to ask his client a further set of questions, after his admissions on Wednesday.

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Dotta]

Prosecution did great job IMO.
Especially:
- uncle "helping" with the kids as in Pakistani households
- a metal pole already upstairs, possibly used earlier by B.

 

[Alyce]

11 minutes ago

Sharif says he ‘doesn’t know’ when was last time he beat his daughter​

Taking questions from his own lawyer, Urfan Sharif said “didn’t know” when the last time he beat his daughter before hitting her on the Tuesday.
He repeatedly denied beating her over the previous weekend, despite post-mortem evidence showing that she had suffered a traumatic brain injury.
He also denied placing the white pole which he used to strike her in an outbuilding in the garden.



5 minutes ago

‘I’ve been mean with her,’ Sharif tells jury​

Addressing Sharif in the witness box, Naeem Mian KC said: “A couple of days ago now you stood up there and you said to the jury and his Lordship that I have something to say before any questions were put to you. Do you remember doing that?”
“Yes,” he replied.
“And then you switched from plan A to plan B. Just to take it broadly, plan A was to blame your wife Batool.
“And now plan B, you have stood there day after day and said ‘I take responsibility, I’m to blame, it was all me, it was nothing to do with Batool, it was nothing to do with Faisal’. Can you help us please with this; everybody may be wondering why you have suddenly after six days start saying it’s my responsibility?”
Sharif responded: “She was my daughter. I’ve been nasty, I’ve been mean with her. I couldn’t care for her, I didn’t do what a father should have done and I’ll take responsibility for everything.”
He did however deny causing the bite marks, the burn injuries and placing a hood over her face.

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk

 

[Alyce]

6 minutes ago

Trial adjourns for lunch​

The trial has adjourned for the lunch break and will continue at 2pm.

Sara Sharif’s father denies stripping and jetwashing body before fleeing to Pakistan

Urfan Sharif, his wife and brother are accused of being “all in this together” by discarding her clothes and fleeing to Pakistan

www.independent.co.uk