Patronising and deeply distasteful. I'm so cross. If anyone of these bottomfeeders get light sentences I'm going to need an ongoing support group!Also,
this bit:
"You don’t have to be Mystic Meg ..."
sounds very patronizing IMO.
SMH
JMO
Sara Sharif's father 'controlling the narrative', jury told
Michael Ivers KC says the evidence against Sara's uncle Faisal Malik is "entirely circumstantial".www.bbc.com
Anyone wondered (try not to vomit now) if Batool and Malik had something going on and Sharif was taking out his rage on Sarah? You never know what happened in their cesspool. Malik had the funds to easily rent his own one-bed unit but chose to join the horror show. Why would you.
Yes exactly this! B and M are far closer in age after all and as US was working late at night when the children were in bed… who knows. Not an excuse still though IMO
I must say this had gone through my mind too.
Oh no, please no, we have enough horrors to think about.
It looks like what counts as 'encouragement' in law is quite a complex area. I suspect this is going to be one of the main questions that the jury are going to have to decide about with regards to Malik. Also from your source article -I've found some legal authority on encouragement and participation
snippets -
"Can “doing nothing” still amount to “something” in a criminal trial?
[...]
A more recent example might be the range of circumstances in R v Andrus Giedraitis 2016 EWCA Crim 1887, where a death had occurred within a building as a result of an arson by the principal. The Court of Appeal found there to be sufficient evidence to infer encouragement by the appellant where he had:
i) Been ‘present” in company with the principle beforehand and afterwards.
ii) Returned to the scene of several occasions, even after the fire had been lit, together with the principal.
iii) Not sought to raise the alarm at any stage.
In such circumstances, it will purely be a question for the jury as to whether they find that it does or it does not, as a matter of fact, amount to encouragement [subject to the qualification that if no fair minded jury could properly reach that conclusion, the judge should withdraw the case].
[...]
However, the prosecution may still seek to rely upon any “inaction” as providing an inference of encouragement and even wider knowledge. [...]
In Coney (1882) 8.Q.B.D 534, the voluntary presence of spectators at an illegal prize fight was found to be capable of providing an inference of encouragement in the illegal activity, although not automatically or conclusively so-that was a matter for the jury. [...]
[Conclusion]
Equally, a failure to intervene or to alert the authorities may generate an inference of encouragement where it can be shown that D2 had an ability to exercise control over the situation, and deliberately chose not to."
“Wrong place at the wrong time” - but when is “mere presence “ enough? - Mountford Chambers - London Barristers Chambers
“Wrong place at the wrong time” - but when is “mere presence “ enough?www.mountfordchambers.com
Malik's team seem to have a short memory. Didn't he pay for the tickets to enable all three adults and the 4 remaining children to flee . He certainly knew Sara was dead then and didn't refuse to aid in his brothers sinning .Also,
this bit:
"You don’t have to be Mystic Meg ..."
sounds very patronizing IMO.
SMH
JMO
Sara Sharif's father 'controlling the narrative', jury told
Michael Ivers KC says the evidence against Sara's uncle Faisal Malik is "entirely circumstantial".
I pray to God's of justice that the jury have paid attention to the finer details and have already made their minds up with a guilty verdict. I don't think my heart could take it if Sara was let down again . How anyone hearing all they have heard could allow any of defendants a chance of living a quality lifeFrom G. Dragon:
Tuesday, November 26
The judge commences his summing up
Mr Justice John Cavanagh then began his summing up by explaining that he would remind the jury of key evidence and his job was to guide them in the law.
He said that the job of the jury is to
“consider all the evidence and relevant facts to come to a conclusion”.
He discussed the credibility of witnesses,
which is for the jury to decide.
Medical Evidence
Mr Justice Cavanagh then began to revisit the specifics of the medical evidence, reminding the jury of the injuries identified by medical experts and the age of these injuries.
Much more in the link
Fully agree think if it goes into next week it will be because of this .
You can have visitors in Council/housing association home but there are two issues - one did him being there make them over housed? and secondly if they got any sort of benefit they may not have been entitled to them with Faisal working .
Makes me wonder if he was involved in shutting Sara up for his Zoom classes. Not much room to facilitate studying in that house either and quite an imposition on a family of multiple children. JMOThe neighbour testified that she saw him often in/around the house!
So...
I don't need to be a "Mystic Meg" (whoever she is),
(and quoting a lawyer)
to suppose he knew a lot!
"Mrs Redwin told the court that another adult man moved in the house in December 2022, who she later learned was Urfan Sharif’s brother.
She said that
he didn’t go out very much."
JMO
But they aren't charged with fleeing the scene of a serious crime, or other things like perverting the course of justice. They are charged with murder and causing or allowing the death of a child, and the judge said the jury could find them not guilty of murder but guilty of manslaughter.
www.sentencingcouncil.org.uk
I completely agree, I think that is also the most likely outcome. I hope they're haunted forever.
I have no doubt in my mind that they are all guilty. I think it is highly possible that Urfan could get a whole life sentence. Beinash and Faisal life sentences maybe 35+ years for B and 25 + years for F, though I am hoping they get longer.
I'm not sure about F - I was thinking about 12-14.
I will be very disappointed if he gets such a short sentence. In my opinion he knew full well what was happening and could have been part of the actual abuse.
