UK, Scotland & Ireland - Coronavirus COVID-19

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Experts at the government's Porton Down facility evaluated the Roche test last week, Public Health England said.

They found that if someone had been infected, it gave the correct result 100% of the time.

Roche said if someone had not caught coronavirus then it gave the correct result more than 99.8% of the time.

It means fewer than two in 1,000 healthy people would be incorrectly told they had previously caught the coronavirus

Coronavirus antibody test a 'positive development'
 
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Crown court jury trials to start on Monday


Four crown court jury trials are scheduled to start on Monday using socially distanced courtrooms in Bristol, Manchester, Cardiff and at the Old Bailey in London.

New jury trials were suspended on March 23rd due to the coronavirus crisis. A judiciary-led working group, under Mr Justice Edis, has been devising methods since then to ensure a safe resumption of criminal justice once lockdown is eased.

Juries will be spread out using seats normally occupied by barristers. The proceedings will be live-streamed to an adjacent courtroom where journalists will have space allocated to allow them to sit two metres apart.

Normally around 1,000 jury trials are heard every month in England and Wales. The next three crown courts expected to restart fresh jury trials are Reading, Warwick and Winchester.

Most of the initial cases are expected to be relatively short, lasting less than two weeks. Public Health England and Public Health Wales have been involved in the jury trials working group. The recommendations are detailed in a public information leaflet.

Jurors are instructed to: “Bring your own refreshments as cafes and canteens will not be open in our court buildings. Please provide your own drinking vessel, but do not bring metal cutlery.”

Two trials, which had been suspended in March, resumed with social distancing at the Old Bailey last week with the same jurors.

UK coronavirus live: teachers and children will be safe at school, says Michael Gove
 
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I'm a bit bothered by the headline and article here. It seems as if the author has twisted what was said through misunderstanding.

Sky News. It claims that the government has said that the R rate isn't really so important after all.

But the actual quotes they've included don't seem to say that.

In response to a question from Sky News at the daily press conference, deputy chief medical officer Jenny Harries said: "R is a very standard way of looking and comparing what's happening and it's a very important measure but the real outcome that we're looking for is a reduction in the number of cases and getting rid of the epidemic.

"That is the focus, not R. R is a representation of what is happening in that fight."

This one isn't saying that the R rate isn't important only that it needs to be looked at in conjunction with the number of cases, and I think she's maybe saying that it's easier for the public to look at the overall number of cases declining (hopefully continuing to decline) than focusing overly on estimates of the R rate.

But that feels very different from how the article is presenting it by saying

It feels like quite a shift to hear that R is not "the focus".

And, yes, it got me to click on the story to learn more! But what about the headline skimmers out there, and those who just read a little bit of the article before drawing a conclusion and getting mad?

Coronavirus: Suddenly, the government isn't so sure the R rate is important
 
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I find this BBC article really interesting. It's about backwards contact tracing that discovered some interesting asymptomatic transmission of Covid in Singapore in January 2020.

In England (the devolved regions seem to be each doing this differently) the government has just started doing contact tracing, and it seems to be solely about forward transmission. I think, imho, it would be better if there was also an attempt at backward contact tracing, and also noting circumstances of transmission events that lead to either contracting or not contracting the virus from a known-to-be-infected person.

Surely this kind of work would help to reveal more cases that are out there, and provide a body of evidence that could be used to hone the guidelines for situations that are safer vs not as safe for risk of transmission?

I also think that those who come out as higher-risk contacts should have tests on days 5, 10, and 15, regardless of whether they show symptoms, to show whether or not they actually have the virus and whether their contacts need to isolate in turn in order to prevent clusters growing and not being easily able to track what's going on.

From what I understand of the current contact tracing, it doesn't seem to be proper epidemiological contact tracing that's been used in other outbreaks of diseases like Ebola to really get on top of outbreaks and really effectively put up barriers that can eventually stop community transmission in outbreaks and prevent that outbreak spreading elsewhere. I'm not thinking that the government's apparent method is worthless per se, only that it seems more ineffectual than it has the potential to be, considering that we have far more resources at this point for testing and contact tracing, and soon should have an app to further complement the testing and tracing.

The mystery of 'silent spreaders'
 
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This is a really interesting article and confirms what we have all thought about it being in the UK before January.

Could Covid-19 have reached the UK earlier than thought?

"A day before the first confirmed fatality from coronavirus outside mainland China was reported on 2 February this year, the death of the influential guitarist and musician Andy Gill was announced. The 64-year-old, who fronted the post-punk band Gang of Four, died of pneumonia after two weeks in St Thomas’ hospital in London.

The trajectory of Gill’s illness, which took medics looking after him in January by surprise, is now familiar – sudden deterioration, low oxygen levels and organ failure. He had fallen sick after his band returned from a trip to China in late November. A short time later, his 26-year-old tour manager was taken to hospital in Leeds with a severe respiratory infection.

As images started rolling in of wards in China and then Italy overwhelmed with Covid-19 patients, Gill’s widow Catherine Mayer – an author and co-founder of the Women’s Equality party – couldn’t shake the suspicion that her partner of nearly 30 years may have been an early victim of the virus."

Continued at link.

So it is very likely it could have been here as early as November.
 
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The BBC reports that genetic studies of the virus in the UK suggests around 1300 separate importations of the virus into the country, each of them creating their own mini-outbreak around them.

There's a chart with the countries from which the majority of cases were imported, and most seem to be from Italy, Spain, and France, in February and March.

(I would think this should go some way to say that the vast majority of people who think they may have had Covid earlier than February probably had something else, as this suggests to me there wouldn't have been enough Covid circulating for a huge number of people to have not contracted it February onwards but instead to have already had it before February...and then where is the genetic evidence of the lineages that people think they may have had prior to February? I find it hard to believe so many of those lineages could have died out and been replaced by the newer imported lineages without leaving obvious traces that a study like this would not be able to find them? Am I misunderstanding the study?)

It does also say that many of these lineages are dying out now, as the case numbers decline.

Coronavirus came to UK 'at least 1,300 times'
 
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A major incident has been declared after thousands of people flocked to beaches on the south coast of England during this week’s hot weather.

Bournemouth, Christchurch and Poole council said services were “completely overstretched” as huge numbers of visitors defied advice to stay away.

The council leader, Vikki Slade, said: “We are absolutely appalled at the scenes witnessed on our beaches, particularly at Bournemouth and Sandbanks, in the last 24-48 hours.

“The irresponsible behaviour and actions of so many people is just shocking and our services are stretched to the absolute hilt trying to keep everyone safe. We have had no choice now but to declare a major incident and initiate an emergency response.”

Major incident declared as people flock to England's south coast
 
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Interesting article in how the system is dealing - or not - with delayed trials, plus comments re the Old Bailey set up.


Visiting the famous Central Criminal Court in recent days has shown just how difficult it will be to clear the backlog while the virus remains with us.

As only one person at a time is permitted to walk through the imposing main door, robed barristers, solicitors, jurors and court staff must queue for up to an hour each morning just to enter the building.

Jurors can be sworn in — by a judge using a microphone — as they stand, two metres apart, in the marbled corridors. The public benches are sealed off with yellow and black hazard tape. There are Covid warning signs and floor-markings everywhere.

Banished to rickety old chairs usually reserved for the press, barristers have complained that their gowns are being torn by nails poking through the rough fabric. Some learned counsel also augment their wigs with face masks and rubber gloves.

When a trial is concluded, the court staff must deep-clean all the furniture, walls and floor — a process that takes a full day.

Adding to all this indignity, a few days ago, rainwater dripped into the library and holding cells.






How can the agony for bereaved families and victims in high-profile court cases get even worse? | Daily Mail Online
 
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Swann criticises Van Morrison in Rolling Stone

The Northern Ireland Health Minister Robin Swann has written a scathing opinion piece for Rolling Stone magazine about Sir Van Morrison.

Last week the singer announced three new songs that protest against the coronavirus lockdown.

In the lyrics, he claims scientists are "making up crooked facts" to justify measures that "enslave" the population.

Mr Swann said the songs were "dangerous", challenging Sir Van to present his own scientific facts.

More at link
 
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Coronavirus vaccine: why it's important to know what’s in the placebo

In some COVID-19 vaccine trials, participants in the control group (the group receiving a placebo) are injected with a saline solution. In other trials, they receive an actual treatment. For example, in the COVID-19 vaccine developed by the University of Oxford, the control group receives a meningitis and septicaemia vaccine as a placebo.

The benefit of using an actual vaccine as the placebo control is that it will cause a similar reaction at the site of the injection as the COVID-19 vaccine, such as muscle pain and soreness. This prevents patients from knowing whether they are getting the placebo or the real treatment. The scientific term for hiding knowledge of who got what treatment is “blinding”.

More at link
 
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Record numbers offered flu vaccine as those with flu and COVID-19 more likely to die

Am posting all of this press release as it is from a government site so no copyright applies.

Three of the nation’s senior medics – Dr Yvonne Doyle, Professor Jonathan Van-Tam and Dr Nikita Kanani – are calling on all eligible people to get vaccinated against flu, as new research from Public Health England (PHE) suggests the risk of death more than doubled for people who tested positive for both flu and COVID-19, compared to those with COVID-19 alone.

The research, looking at cases between January and April this year, also found that those with co-infection of the 2 viruses were more at risk of severe illness. Most cases of co-infection were in older people and more than half of them died.

Flu is a serious condition that kills, on average, 11,000 people in England each year and hospitalises many more. Adults at high risk from flu are also most at risk from COVID-19. The free vaccine is more important than ever to help protect the nation from a double threat this winter.

This year, the programme is being expanded to help protect people from flu and ease pressure on the NHS and urgent care services.

The health system is working to provide the free flu vaccine to 30 million people, the highest number on record.

All primary school children and, for the first time, Year 7 children will be offered the flu ‘nasal spray’ in schools to reduce community transmission. Two- and three-year-olds will be offered the vaccine through their GP.

The most vulnerable, including adults aged 65 and over, those with long-term health conditions and pregnant women, will be offered the flu vaccine first through their GP or pharmacy.

It will also be offered to household contacts of people on the NHS Shielded Patient List and all health and all social care workers who have direct contact with the people they care for.

Once uptake has been maximised in the most at-risk groups, the newly eligible 50- to 64-year-olds will be invited for vaccination later in the season. Anyone who is 50 to 64 years old with long-term health conditions should be vaccinated earlier in the season, in line with all others in risk groups.

As part of England’s biggest ever flu campaign – alongside adverts across the media and posters in GP surgeries, pharmacies and hospitals – eligible people will receive additional direct reminders prompting them to book their appointment, supporting the hard work of local GP practices and pharmacies in driving uptake among their registered eligible patients.

To help increase uptake in the social care sector, for the first time, pharmacists will be able to vaccinate residents and care home staff at the same time.

Employers of frontline health and social care workers also have a responsibility to ensure their staff can get the free vaccine. A record number of NHS staff – three-quarters of a million (74.3%) of frontline healthcare workers – took up their workplace vaccination last year.

Overall, nearly two-thirds of eligible people received their free vaccine last year, making uptake rates in England among the highest in Europe.

Dr Yvonne Doyle, Medical Director at Public Health England, said:

It is dangerous to dismiss influenza as ‘just’ the flu – it can be extremely serious and can lead to hospitalisation, permanent disability or even death.

The flu vaccine is more important than ever, to help reduce transmission of flu and protect the nation from the double threat of flu and COVID-19. You may be offered it for the first time this year – it is important that you take up the offer to protect yourself and others.

Deputy Chief Medical Officer Professor, Jonathan Van-Tam, said:

Flu can be deadly and it is easily spread in children and adults. The vaccine is the best way to protect yourself from becoming ill with the flu, especially if you are in a vulnerable group.

This winter with COVID still circulating, and the increased risk to life if you are ill with both viruses simultaneously, it is even more vital to get the free jab as soon as you can.

Dr Nikita Kanani, London GP and NHS medical director for primary care, said:

My frontline NHS colleagues across England are working harder than ever to prepare for winter, including expanding and adapting services to ensure people can get the care and vaccinations they need safely and conveniently.

So if you are eligible, please help us help you and get your free flu vaccine as soon as possible. It could save your life, or someone you love.

Secretary of State for Health and Social Care, Matt Hancock, said:

This year more than ever, it’s vital that those eligible for the flu jab get it this winter, so you can protect yourself, your family and the NHS. We’re pulling out all the stops to prepare for this uniquely challenging winter and we have enough vaccines for 30 million people this year, more than we’ve ever done before.

With the simultaneous risk of flu and COVID-19, make sure you get your flu jab if you’re eligible, don’t gather in groups larger than 6 and remember ‘Hands Face Space’, so we can look after each other.

The unprecedented vaccine drive will be supported by a scaled-up marketing campaign across TV, radio and digital advertising. The ‘Just’ The Flu campaign, launching in early October, will reinforce the seriousness of flu, urge people to re-evaluate their own risk to the virus and remind people that vaccination is the best protection for themselves and those around them.

For further information please contact:
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Covid MP says she behaved 'out of character'

She said she took a test on Saturday, 26 September because she had a "tickly throat" - but had no symptoms on the Sunday or Monday, when she travelled to London for a debate.

On receiving her test result on the Monday night in London, she said she began "panicking" and "wanting home".

"I don't have a flat in London. You're thinking, 'Am I going to get worse in a week's time or a few days' time'," she said, adding that she was worried she would have to self-isolate in a hotel for two weeks.

"I felt there was no alternative and that's why I took the train. That's the decision I took at the time."

'Flagrant disregard'
First Minister Nicola Sturgeon said no party leader has the power to force an MP to resign from parliament.

But she said Ms Ferrier's "lapse of judgement" was "so significant and so unacceptable" that she should step down.

Speaking on Sky's Sophie Ridge on Sunday programme, Ms Sturgeon said: "We suspended her from the party and we now have a due process to go through. I can't unilaterally decide to expel somebody.

"But I couldn't be clearer - she should step down.

"I've read her comments in the media today but I still hope she will do the right thing.

"It is unacceptable that someone in her position flagrantly disregarded the rules like that."

So the journey she took by train was to return home and to her constituency. I think the decision will be up to her constituents and the police. Not sure if she wore a mask to return home on the train but would imagine she did as it is compulsory.
 
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Very worrying.

Nightingale hospitals told to prepare for Covid

NHS Nightingale hospitals in Manchester, Sunderland and Harrogate are being asked to get ready to take patients.

Government advisers say admissions are rising, with more elderly people needing urgent treatment for Covid.

More people are now in hospital with Covid than before restrictions were announced in March.

It comes as new local lockdown rules for England are due to be announced later to get infection rates down.

England's deputy chief medical officer said the "marked pick-up" in cases that the country is seeing would lead to more deaths.

Prof Jonathan Van-Tam said the rise in coronavirus cases was now being seen "nationwide" and was not solely a problem for northern England.

He warned that coronavirus was spreading from younger age groups into the over 60s who are more vulnerable.

More at link.

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