UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #2

[shadwell]

Wouldn't his fingerprints be on the handbrake though?

Possibly; possibly not - you might get a partial thumbprint off the button, but you wouldn’t necessarily get classic ‘dabs’ off the handle - more likely a print/smear of the intermediate phalanges (the middle bone) and the palm as the hand wrapped around it. Similarly with the steering wheel and (possibly) the handle to move the seat back. The most likely locations for actual fingerprints if the car was opened and pushed would be the underside of the driver’s door handle (to open the door) and the top right of the windscreen (pushing with one hand wrapped around steering wheel and one hand on pillar).

That said, you would think police would be aware if this was the case, unless RM (the garage owner) belatedly realised that he might have destroyed vital evidence by moving the car and decided to say nothing.

But my point here mainly is that sometimes confusing aspects of a case stem from mundane and unrelated causes - as with the Valdez case, where the ominous “HE IS NEAR - HELP ME” message on the car’s rear windscreen turned out to have been written by teenagers who discovered the vehicle before it was reported to police.

 

[shadwell]

I don't know about others but I'm not clear about when she realised she had actually lost it

No, I’m not clear on this either, but I can envisage a scenario around its disappearance and subsequent reappearance that might explain some of AL’s reactions when interviewed by DV.

I’ll need to read the DV book to see exactly at what point things ‘went south’ in the interview before I could be more certain, but am aiming to do the AS book first (arriving some time this or next week).

 

[shadwell]

A question for those who have already read the AS and/or DV books - did police have all the drain covers up on Stevenage Road? TIA

 

[Pinkizzy]

Dbm

 

[Pinkizzy]

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[shadwell]

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Thanks - I note RCI/RC1 again at the top (RC1 F 5’6”), suggesting (IMO) this is a precursor/miswriting of the IC1 code - though wikipedia suggests IC codes have been in use in the UK since the 70s. Definitely looks like MALL - though that is where I would expect to see MALE in terms of the most basic identifiers (sex, ethnicity, height) as with the SL section above.

To the right you can just about make out a list of officers assigned to the inquiry (‘PC LL’ at the bottom). IIRC there’s another photo upthread also showing this list, though largely obscured by the head of a detective (HARRIS and LLOYD the only visible names, as I recall).

 

[shadwell]

Interesting shot of the inside of the car there also - passenger seat looks (IMO) too far forward for a male passenger (though could also have been adjusted to cause confusion). Is that a signet ring jammed in the dash, just to the left of the gonk?

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[shadwell]

The story behind the publication of Andrew Stephen’s 1988 book:

Article clipped from The Guardian

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[shadwell]

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Not a great number of returns - The Guardian ‘Fears grow for missing woman’ appears to be the most contemporary, dated 31st July 1986 (same date as the Fiesta dashboard photo I posted previously).

Suzy Lamplugh Disappearance

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Had anyone else heard of the Sarah Lambert ‘lost weekend’ case? Strange one… Wouldn’t seem the smartest move to be using the “Kipper” pseudonym only weeks after the disappearance of SL.

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Photo of Hanson/Kipper (Charming conman missing from jail):

Meat rack

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[asyousay]

So it could be Skipper and not Kipper?

 

[Pinkizzy]

That Joseph Hanson (conman) looks like the Mr Kipper photofit.

 

[Cluesleuth]

To the right you can just about make out a list of officers assigned to the inquiry (‘PC LL’ at the bottom). IIRC there’s another photo upthread also showing this list, though largely obscured by the head of a detective (HARRIS and LLOYD the only visible names, as I recall).

WPC Vanzomeron.
WPC Hulme

Avery
Long
Harrison
Loyd is visable could be LLoyd or Floyd

 

[shadwell]

That Joseph Hanson (conman) looks like the Mr Kipper photofit.

The more photos I look at, the more it seems to have been a common look for men in London at the time - likewise the “Diana fringe/flick” hairstyle for women.

That said, I would guess police gave him a proper turning over - how daft would have to be to use same alias as that in a massively high profile case? Maybe it was a test to see how uninformed his potential victims were - if they didn’t make their excuses and disappear to dial 999 as soon as he said the name he knew he was onto a winner?

 

[Crusader21]

The story behind the publication of Andrew Stephen’s 1988 book:

Article clipped from The Guardian

Clipping found in The Guardian published in London, Greater London, England on 10/15/1988.

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Thank you very much for that, never read that before.

Boy did Andrew Stephens face some wrath from DL! Interesting to read that her husband PL, initially was delighted with the book.

Worthwhile noting that the press reported 'mortgage fraud' that SL may have been involved in came from the mind of DL! It was often reported that SL had unwitttingly been involved in property deals with a criminal gang. Perhaps we can put that narrative to bed as false, seeing where it emanated from.

I can't help but wonder actual how much of a distracting influence and skew DL placed upon the investigation, through her own actions?

 

[shadwell]

Thank you very much for that, never read that before.

Boy did Andrew Stephens face some wrath from DL! Interesting to read that her husband PL, initially was delighted with the book.

Worthwhile noting that the press reported 'mortgage fraud' that SL may have been involved in came from the mind of DL! It was often reported that SL had unwitttingly been involved in property deals with a criminal gang. Perhaps we can put that narrative to bed as false, seeing where it emanated from.

I can't help but wonder actual how much of a distracting influence and skew DL placed upon the investigation, through her own actions?

Indeed. Just received my copy of the AS and it’s already justifying the expense. Chapter 2 (page 10), re the police’s 6.55pm call back to MG:

He recounted to the police an outline of what had happened, adding that HR now thought that the young couple had been arguing and was saying that the woman was bundled into a car by the man. This later turned out to be an exaggeration, but it was enough to make the police act immediately.

To my eye, that describes an ‘exaggeration’ on the part of MG, not HR and that this detail was added by MG after his initial call to police at 6.45pm - possibly as a result of him feeling that the police did not seem sufficiently concerned.

Also, while MG did return to Shorrolds Road after 5.30pm, there is no indication that he spoke to HR on this occasion or subsequently by phone.

What’s not clear (as yet) is whether anyone from Sturgis attended the 6pm 43 Waldemar viewing - though obviously this would fit in between MG’s 5.30pm visit to Fulham police station and his 6.45pm call, during which time he is stated as having done a viewing. So it’s possible he went to the police station, gave up after waiting a while and as it approached 6pm, went to the Waldemar viewing in the hope that SL might turn up there - she didn’t, so he then returned to the office via Shorrolds (no sign there either) and called police.

 

[shadwell]

Also of note, on page 6:

… 37 Shorrolds Road, a furnished, three-storey terraced house.

The property was vacant, but furnished.

 

[shadwell]

And, of course also on page 6:

The estate agent manager remembered Susannah coming behind his desk to pick up the keys.

At the time of recollection (prior to 1988) MG states that he was in the office when SL picked up the keys prior to leaving at 12.40pm.

 

[Cluesleuth]

And, of course also on page 6:

The estate agent manager remembered Susannah coming behind his desk to pick up the keys.

At the time of recollection (prior to 1988) MG states that he was in the office when SL picked up the keys prior to leaving at 12.40pm.

In the tv Docu The Vanishing of Suzy Lamplugh JC speaking says Suzy asked him to get the keys for Shorrolds road she was going to do a quick showing and then go for lunch.

 

[Cluesleuth]

Also of note, on page 6:

… 37 Shorrolds Road, a furnished, three-storey terraced house.

The property was vacant, but furnished.

The owner was a helicopter pilot overseas.

 

[asyousay]

And, of course also on page 6:

The estate agent manager remembered Susannah coming behind his desk to pick up the keys.

At the time of recollection (prior to 1988) MG states that he was in the office when SL picked up the keys prior to leaving at 12.40pm.

Earlier memories are gonna more correct you would think, no?