UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #7

[Ljh21]

Why was the purse left in the car?
Answer that and i think you are nearly there, just my view but the purse has to be left in the car so it relates to sjl driving it or being in it when it is quite conceivable she may never have been in it and if so that only leaves one conclusion. No witness can put suzy and her car together at any point which is what everyone seems to be overlooking.

 

[Ljh21]

Why was the purse left in the car?
Answer that and i think you are nearly there, just my view but the purse has to be left in the car so it relates to sjl driving it or being in it when it is quite conceivable she may never have been in it and if so that only leaves one conclusion. No witness can put suzy and her car together at any point which is what everyone seems to be overlooking.

I am arguing that every avenue was never fully thought through, it does not need anyone else to conspire just a clever individual.

 

[WestLondoner]

Why was the purse left in the car?
Answer that and i think you are nearly there, just my view but the purse has to be left in the car so it relates to sjl driving it or being in it when it is quite conceivable she may never have been in it and if so that only leaves one conclusion. No witness can put suzy and her car together at any point which is what everyone seems to be overlooking.

How did her purse and straw hat get in the car if she was never in the car?

BW put her and her car together and the car was allocated to her so it's beyond argument she was in that car that day.

The question is how it came to be left where it was. For me the simplest answer is she stopped for some brief purpose rather than parked intending a longer stay, then never returned to her car, but someone else did.

 

[Ljh21]

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How did her purse and straw hat get in the car if she was never in the car?

BW put her and her car together and the car was allocated to her so it's beyond argument she was in that car that day.

The question is how it came to be left where it was. For me the simplest answer is she stopped for some brief purpose rather than parked intending a longer stay, then never returned to her car, but someone else did.

Did someone from pow have use of a bmw is there a phone box near 123 sr, if so could have called sjl office spoke to suzy and said this is where i am and she went to pick up her items from there that would explain being there as they could have claimed they were lost so to speak.

 

[Ljh21]

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Did someone from pow have use of a bmw is there a phone box near 123 sr, if so could have called sjl office spoke to suzy and said this is where i am and she went to pick up her items from there that would explain being there as they could have claimed they were lost so to speak.

Maybe a bit of a stretch but just trying to look at an option that covers a lot of the events

 

[Ljh21]

How did her purse and straw hat get in the car if she was never in the car?

BW put her and her car together and the car was allocated to her so it's beyond argument she was in that car that day.

The question is how it came to be left where it was. For me the simplest answer is she stopped for some brief purpose rather than parked intending a longer stay, then never returned to her car, but someone else did sorry, I disagree bw said she saw her but it could conceivably have been any white fiesta add to that the driver was facing and talking to the passenger then bw did not see her face

 

[Ljh21]

How did her purse and straw hat get in the car if she was never in the car?

BW put her and her car together and the car was allocated to her so it's beyond argument she was in that car that day.

The question is how it came to be left where it was. For me the simplest answer is she stopped for some brief purpose rather than parked intending a longer stay, then never returned to her car, but someone else did.

One question, if anyone can answer ( sorry i am not in depth on the case) if sjl wrote o/s so knew it would be a quick look then why did she take the keys to 37 shorrolds as i would have thought it would have been a meeting for only a few minutes.

 

[Ljh21]

One question, if anyone can answer ( sorry i am not in depth on the case) if sjl wrote o/s so knew it would be a quick look then why did she take the keys to 37 shorrolds as i would have thought it would have been a meeting for only a few minutes.

Did sjl swop meetings with another colleague as that would explain being seen outside the sturgis house for sale on langthorne? Wearing a straw hat with a notebook.
I have just had a thought, what if sjl had confused sr and sr and had written them from an earlier note in her pocket diary from mind, gone to shorrolds that would explain the sightings and that she was waiting but alone.but after a few minutes realised it was stevenage then left and headed there, there mystery man may have seen the outside of sr and then asked anything else nearby thus langthorne address. Also wondered how old mg was at the time

 

[Kasparthecat1]

One question, if anyone can answer ( sorry i am not in depth on the case) if sjl wrote o/s so knew it would be a quick look then why did she take the keys to 37 shorrolds as i would have thought it would have been a meeting for only a few minutes.

It means meet outside, not just take a look on the outside. She meant to take Kipper in, using the keys (if indeed the appointment existed).

 

[Kasparthecat1]

Did sjl swop meetings with another colleague as that would explain being seen outside the sturgis house for sale on langthorne? Wearing a straw hat with a notebook.
I have just had a thought, what if sjlhad confused sr and sr and had written them from an earlier note in her pocket diary from mind, gone to shorrolds that would explain the sightings and that she was waiting but alone.but after a few minutes realised it was stevenage then left and headed there.

There were no other negotiators available on this day. Sturgis policy was to always have one present in the office if at all possible, including lunchtimes. Hence Sjl possibly inventing 37SR as a cover - to get out of the office when she needed to run a personal errand. She knew the boss was lunching with MG and she didn't want to be caught out, hence the "appointment" which would have been an acceptable reason to be out of the office.

 

[Ljh21]

There were no other negotiators available on this day. Sturgis policy was to always have one present in the office if at all possible, including lunchtimes. Hence Sjl possibly inventing 37SR as a cover - to get out of the office when she needed to run a personal errand. She knew the boss was lunching with MG and she didn't want to be caught out, hence the "appointment" which would have been an acceptable reason to be out of the office.

Why would sjl have taken the keys to shorrolds if she even did, I personally think the crime happened in another sturgis for sale house

 

[Ljh21]

It's a possibility, but going to collect the diary wouldn't necessarily have been Suzy's main priority that lunchtime. We just don't know.

It was enough of a priority for her to contact the pow and them saying she would collect after 6pm again is only because that is what they say. What is it with everyone just agreeing with whst they are fed, surely every avenue should be bottomed out so to speak like al’s 11 interviews, i also think the purse was placed there as it would lead people to think if sjl left her purse she would only be popping into one of the nearest houses to where her car was left

 

[tes1984]

What is it with everyone just agreeing with whst they are fed, surely every avenue should be bottomed out so to speak

People on here have been researching this case for decades. Nobody is blindly following mainstream media type narratives.

 

[Cherwell]

It was enough of a priority for her to contact the pow and them saying she would collect after 6pm again is only because that is what they say. What is it with everyone just agreeing with whst they are fed, surely every avenue should be bottomed out so to speak like al’s 11 interviews,

That's obvious though - the pub didn't open until six o'clock.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Im wondering if the scheduled viewing with Kipper was indeed a fabrication, why would SJL choose a property relatively close to the office, rather than one further afield so as to justify a longer time away? To me, this seems to support the idea that whoever she was meeting, and for whatever reason, was only intended/needed to be brief?

 

[Ljh21]

That's obvious though - the pub didn't open until six o'clock.

What i mean is belief that it is not a possibility to collect before 6pm just on someones word

 

[Ljh21]

I think you could get a strong enough reason to doubt pow if we knew the postcard address, which i am assuming was from al to sjl

 

[WestLondoner]

Why would you assume that?

 

[Ljh21]

Why would you assume that?

If i had various items from an address around the corner i would pop them to the address in a few minutes of my spare time.

 

[Eastend Eagle]

My final theory on this case (having read books & looked at all the evidence out there and the chaotic first days of the police investigation....... and DL hijacking the inquiry taking to witnesses like WJ before the police did) plus considering information discussed in these threads ..........is as follows - this my opinion !

The police missed so much in the first 24 hours - questions weren't asked that should have been .....

There was no appointment - SJL made that up to leave the office and to attend to a personal matter possibly re the diary or meeting up with someone she knew , this was something she intended to do quickly as she didn't take her handbag ....she did not take keys of details to 37SR as there was no appt ( she made it up so she could have an excuse to leave the office without questions ...otherwise she would have been manning the office ...... evidence of this in DV's investigation / Finding SUZY book) ***The 37 SR appointment - Mr Kipper was written by her in her diary near lunchtime when she realised the big boss was around as he was lunching with MG and had popped into the office before that lunch.She had to nip out and invented a reason.

Who knows what happened next it is unknown- could be something at POW re collecting diary etc

Her car was dumped in Stevenage Rd in a hurry ...not by her...... at some point . it was dumped outside a Sturgis property deliberately so that it thew the investigation ( as I believe Suzy met her demise somewhere different )

* The location of the car in Stevenage Rd is very close to sighting by BW in FPR so that could still be relevant...

* WL is adamant she witnessed the white fiesta correctly- with reg ending in GAN and this fits with where it was found.

Why would DL have talked to WJ before the police did why would she have thought WJ relevant to the investigation?