UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #7

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The problem with the supposed case against him is that the police can't prove he ever met SJL, according to the CPS.

He's a good suspect but the time to be gathering evidence against him was 1986, not 2002.
 
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I guess it will never be solved now. He is the most likely suspect and now he is dead.
 
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Yes, they can safely shelve it now, more's the pity. I don't agree that he was the most likely suspect.
 
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"John Cannan dead:

Prime suspect in Suzy Lamplugh's murder

takes his secrets to the grave,"


I hope they've combed through whatever possessions he left behind. He was obviously Mr Kipper. And there will be other crimes he likely committed without being prosecuted for. Perhaps we'll find out more about Cannan in the coming years.
 
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Waiting on forensics?

 
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I’m not so sure we will see new evidence now JC is dead. It’s like so many cases where the police dropped the ball at the time of the event.
They’ll be hoping the case interest will die with JC.
 
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Not a very tough call for LE.

1/ If they proceed with the forensic work, whatever it was, on the one hand it may show JC did it - in which case they look foolish for not having worked this out 38 years ago.

2/ If they proceed with the forensic work and on the other hand it does not show JC did it, they're no further forward, so what a waste of effort that was.

3/ If they proceed with the forensic work and it actually points away from JC, they look foolish for having spent 20 years insisting it was him when it wasn't (and they had quite a few people, including the CPS, telling them there were no grounds to say it was).

4/ If they don't proceed with the forensic work, the claim that it was JC does not get upheld, but on the other hand nor does it get debunked either.

Of those outcomes, the last is surely the best outcome for the least risk, which probably matters when you're in special measures. The other three all look potentially or decidedly bad, so in their shoes I'd go for number 4, Bob.
 
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It’s just the weirdest case as they don’t even know where she got kidnapped from.

If it’s JC then he could have easily of done it the road where the car was parked which I believe was Whittingstall. A nice quiet residential road and he has the element of surprise on his side as she goes to get in the car.
 
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I hope they've combed through whatever possessions he left behind. He was obviously Mr Kipper. And there will be other crimes he likely committed without being prosecuted for. Perhaps we'll find out more about Cannan in the coming years.
What's your evidence for concluding that he was Kipper?
 
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I hope they've combed through whatever possessions he left behind. He was obviously Mr Kipper. And there will be other crimes he likely committed without being prosecuted for. Perhaps we'll find out more about Cannan in the coming years.

What's your evidence for concluding that he was Kipper?
Who established the Mr Kipper appointment actually happened?
 
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All of WS is pedants!
 
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Should have added MOO for the pedants.
There's no evidence that Cannan was the man she allegedly arranged a viewing with. The sketch of "Mr Kipper" actually resembles Suzy's boss who was there later with a colleague, looking for her. Lots of things that have been presented as facts are unreliable. All the stories about Kipper being his nickname are unfounded.
 
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The most reliable first-hand source for his nickname being Kipper was GP, his ice dancer girlfriend in 1987, who said he had told her this - in a statement she later retracted. Whether he admitted to her that he had been in prison I am not sure.

It sounds more like the kind of nickname SJL gave her mates, and not a particularly complimentary one.
 
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Was Cannan's DNA found in the Shirley Banks case?
 
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I don't think so. The pointers were her car in his garage and her thumbprint on a document in his flat.

There was DNA evidence in the Reading rape. With the haberdashery shop rape he was caught while fleeing IIRC.
 
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There's no evidence that Cannan was the man she allegedly arranged a viewing with. The sketch of "Mr Kipper" actually resembles Suzy's boss who was there later with a colleague, looking for her. Lots of things that have been presented as facts are unreliable. All the stories about Kipper being his nickname are unfounded.
the sketch looks nothing like SL boss MG.
 
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