UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #7

[RichardKimble]

iam starting to think JC is not responsible for snatching SL. he just wants to be the infamous mr kipper.

JC is dead so it makes no odds now, but did JD stroke his ego by naming him?

 

[Terryb808]

i dont buy it. if SL remains were there they would be found. bones dont vanish after years in water. they would have noticed a large canvas bag if it was there. the witness who said he seen JC is dead. to me its just more BS from people who think they have vital info. its not plausible the canal theory, just like DV who thinks SL is buried in the POW pub.

There is a lot of bull going about, there always will be when a case is unsolved, especially for this length of time.
Regarding finding someone lost in the water, it’s clearly not that easy. Look at the so called experts in the Bully case.
They were so so confident, yet found nothing, how did the miss her?
As a member of the public I can’t be sure which section of the Brent Canal the police searched in 2014, and where they stopped.
I seem to recall JD indicating that the area around Gallows Bridge had not been searched, but he was unable to get this action taken.
Not surprised, he’s retired now and the Met have more than enough to keep them occupied.

 

[Klclevi]

Does anyone know if anything was looked into regarding the Herring connection and where they lived ( 20 Wardo avenue ) but her diary also has some weird entry 142 Wardo avenue - Bike contract? What does this mean?

Also i am trying to make it out what is the scribble above that ?

 

[Klclevi]

There is a lot of bull going about, there always will be when a case is unsolved, especially for this length of time.
Regarding finding someone lost in the water, it’s clearly not that easy. Look at the so called experts in the Bully case.
They were so so confident, yet found nothing, how did the miss her?
As a member of the public I can’t be sure which section of the Brent Canal the police searched in 2014, and where they stopped.
I seem to recall JD indicating that the area around Gallows Bridge had not been searched, but he was unable to get this action taken.
Not surprised, he’s retired now and the Met have more than enough to keep them occupied.

Thanks Terry, what is the Bully case please? (apologies Aussie here)

 

[Terryb808]

Thanks Terry, what is the Bully case please? (apologies Aussie here)

It’s a case in the UK where Nichola Bully disappeared while walking her dog. The media went big with the story and lots of would be detectives started being a pain and hindering the police investigation.
Honestly it showed the worst of the media and unfounded accusations were levelled at people.
It was generally awful for the missing person’s family.
A crack team was employed to search the section of river where she went missing, they were IMO arrogant in saying just how good they were and that they would find her when the police search teams had failed.
They didn’t and she was eventually found on (I believe) a section they had searched.
This is my recollection of the case and my view on how social media behaves in such tragic cases.
Hope this helps.

 

[lee sumner]

There is a lot of bull going about, there always will be when a case is unsolved, especially for this length of time.
Regarding finding someone lost in the water, it’s clearly not that easy. Look at the so called experts in the Bully case.
They were so so confident, yet found nothing, how did the miss her?
As a member of the public I can’t be sure which section of the Brent Canal the police searched in 2014, and where they stopped.
I seem to recall JD indicating that the area around Gallows Bridge had not been searched, but he was unable to get this action taken.
Not surprised, he’s retired now and the Met have more than enough to keep them occupied.

yes, you are correct about NB case. the so called experts didnt seem to know what they were doing, and everyone starting to think NB had been abducted. then we find out NB was going through the menopause and drinking a lot of alcohol. when i heard this i thought she had commited suicide. i still dont understand what happened to NB. they say it was an accident falling into the river, but i thought she was speaking on her phone, and why did no one hear her scream.

 

[Terryb808]

yes, you are correct about NB case. the so called experts didnt seem to know what they were doing, and everyone starting to think NB had been abducted. then we find out NB was going through the menopause and drinking a lot of alcohol. when i heard this i thought she had commited suicide. i still dont understand what happened to NB. they say it was an accident falling into the river, but i thought she was speaking on her phone, and why did no one hear her scream.

I didn’t know the area, but I seem to recall the bank was muddy and had an incline. Its my view that she’d had enough and ended her life.
It can be a split second decision to decide this which if she’d not been so near the water may have never happened.
What is so wrong is the social media reaction, it must have been devastating for her family, people should have more respect.

 

[Klclevi]

Hi all

Coming up to the 39th Anniversary on the 28th of July - 2 and a bit weeks away. Is there anything in the UK news about it ?

 

[RichardKimble]

DBM.

 

[Spy Versus Spy]

Hi all

Coming up to the 39th Anniversary on the 28th of July - 2 and a bit weeks away. Is there anything in the UK news about it ?

Nothing I have seen. Will keep a lookout as the date approaches.

 

[michaelstreet75!]

iam starting to think JC is not responsible for snatching SL. he just wants to be the infamous mr kipper.

Why has AL never been looked into again, for me he had the motive, has conflicting details of the last weekend prior to her disappearance, not to mention his reaction to DV questions.

I have read in several places, it took several days to clear him, hence his timeliness must have been tight, my question is, the timings were based on him been in shorolds road and then would not have had time to meet his alibi, however if SL never actually visited shorolds road, then he is a good a suspect as JC

 

[su5ie]

Suzy Lamplugh murder suspect John Cannan refused prison treatment

John Cannan was serving a life sentence for the murder of Shirley Banks. He died in HMP Full Sutton.

www.bbc.com

A new angle on the disappearance of Suzy Lamplugh

It remains one of the most notorious unsolved cases in UK criminal history. And in a new twist, it seems that vital witness testimony was ignored by police. James Rampton explains

www.independent.co.uk

 

[su5ie]

Did Suzy Lamplugh have an affair with her killer? Dossier suggests twist in murder case

She's the estate agent whose murder by 'Mr Kipper' has been shrouded in mystery for 24 years. As a new hunt for her body ends in failure, a secret police dossier hints at an astonishing twist.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This article has probably been posted before but I was having a reread and never noticed this paragraph. Its always dismal when you see evidence wasn't kept and stored securely.

Who destroyed phone bills and other records ? Like who gives the authorisation to do that. Surely if a case is unsolved it is even more vital to keep anything that may help resolve the case . The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me .

 

[Klclevi]

This has been posted on YT - its both the 86 and 2000 crimewatch coverages . Interestly - from about 13.33 onwards it goes into more detail about the tradesman sighting and the cabbie. Stuff I have not seen before .

 

[Klclevi]

Why has AL never been looked into again, for me he had the motive, has conflicting details of the last weekend prior to her disappearance, not to mention his reaction to DV questions.

I have read in several places, it took several days to clear him, hence his timeliness must have been tight, my question is, the timings were based on him been in shorolds road and then would not have had time to meet his alibi, however if SL never actually visited shorolds road, then he is a good a suspect as JC

I have always thought that AL knows more than he has ever said.

I know DV's book is widely criticised, but his meeting with AL in the coffee shop and AL's reaction to their questions before abruptly leaving definitely is a bit weird. IMO

 

[Klclevi]

Nothing I have seen. Will keep a lookout as the date approaches.

Thankyou so much !

 

[rvlvr]

I know DV's book is widely criticised, but his meeting with AL in the coffee shop and AL's reaction to their questions before abruptly leaving definitely is a bit weird. IMO

Completely agree.

If people have a ‘pet’ theory re this case, and that theory is usually ‘it was JC’, then DV’s book likely won’t appeal to them. Even if you’re not sold on JC being responsible, there are plenty of reasons to be sceptical of DV’s own theory. But trying to read it dispassionately, I found it useful. I keep meaning to go back and read it again actually, the anniversary is probably as good a time as any.

 

[Klclevi]

Did Suzy Lamplugh have an affair with her killer? Dossier suggests twist in murder case

She's the estate agent whose murder by 'Mr Kipper' has been shrouded in mystery for 24 years. As a new hunt for her body ends in failure, a secret police dossier hints at an astonishing twist.

www.dailymail.co.uk

This article has probably been posted before but I was having a reread and never noticed this paragraph. Its always dismal when you see evidence wasn't kept and stored securely.

Who destroyed phone bills and other records ? Like who gives the authorisation to do that. Surely if a case is unsolved it is even more vital to keep anything that may help resolve the case . The stupidity of some people never ceases to amaze me .
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yes, this article also has JC saying
Indeed, when, in 2001, police first examined the Worcestershire site they revisited this week - the result of an earlier tip-off - Cannan allegedly told a fellow prisoner as they watched a TV report: 'They won't find her there.'

When asked where Suzy was, he replied: 'Do you honestly think I would be daft enough to be walking around with a f*****g spade... she's in a house.'

 

[lee sumner]

Why has AL never been looked into again, for me he had the motive, has conflicting details of the last weekend prior to her disappearance, not to mention his reaction to DV questions.

I have read in several places, it took several days to clear him, hence his timeliness must have been tight, my question is, the timings were based on him been in shorolds road and then would not have had time to meet his alibi, however if SL never actually visited shorolds road, then he is a good a suspect as JC

it took 11 statements to clear AL. they obviously went over his movements that day. i dont think he is responsible. 11 is a lot. that appears to clear him, but i would love to see the original case file.

 

[rvlvr]

FWIW I highly doubt he’s responsible, but I think a lot of SL’s friends have views, opinions, theories, etc, that they’ve never felt comfortable sharing, likely because the narrative was shaped in such a dominating way by DL. The passing of time and an understandable reluctance to reopen old wounds no doubt makes it even harder to chip away at a story that was set in stone long ago.