UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[Rookie D]

Hi all

Here's a little teaser here...

Interesting that exactly one week after the disappearance of SL, when the police got WPC Suzanne Long to play the part of SL for a police reconstruction, that parked outside Sturgis on Chesilton Road, there was a dark coloured BMW captured in the shot.

The BMW appears to be a convertible.

Let's not forget that this reconstruction was filmed on Monday 4th August 1986, way before a BMW is even mentioned.

It's also fascinating that as WPC Suzanne Long walks out of the doorway, a man appears in the background as he walks into shot, and stands momentarily to watch. He can seen through the reflection of the mirror. As Suzanne then walks past the window, the man walks off. One would assume that this was the police officer who played Mr Kipper for the reconstruction, because if it wasn't then...

Can you imagine.

 

[Rookie D]

And of course, if those images of that parked BMW from the very first reconstruction can be enhanced and the number plate of that dark BMW deciphered, and then that turns out to match a left hand drive BMW...then there's a good chance that the abduction vehicle is right there staring us in the face.

And has been all along

Where's the one place you'd least expect to find the car used to abduct SL a week after it happened?

Parked outside Sturgis of course.

And is that Mr Kipper standing there in the reflection of the doorway?

Surely not.

But stranger things have happened.


As I said before, if this case is to be solved, then don't think like the police; think like the killer.

 

[GTB72]

Hi If you read the AS book on page 28.

Calvert told the dectectives at about 9.45 he borrowed Susannahs Ford Fiesta to take a client to a house in Foskett Road. Returning 20 minutes later and parking the car in Whittingstall Road, a street off Fulham Road and opposite the Sturgis office.

'Because Calvert was a small man, he used the same driving position as Susannah, - the seat about four or five notches back from its most forward position. It was not unusual for him to borrow someone elses office car, because one of his duties was to photograph all Sturgis houses on the market in the area- and he did not have a car of his own.'

If you have not read the books I would really recommend doing so. (starting with Andrew Stephens publication in 1988 (The Suzy Lamplugh Story). This is where the bulk of this information is coming from as is is noted as the best source of information even still to this day. This books publication created huge controversy particularly for the L family (even though they commissioned it) as in the course of AS investigations it became apparent that her personal life was way more complicated than her family knew or chose to believe. This book was written with the cooperation of the police at the time, the journalists access to police files, SLs diaries and interviews with her friends.

This 1988 book was written PRE Cannan - this is very important to keep in mind.

There are also 100's of press articles from 1986 -87 detailing information from her friends and family that do not appear in the book.

Next book is

David Videcettes 'Finding Suzy' in 2021 ,
Ex Met Detective who dedicated 3 years of his life and his own funds to putting an alternative theory to the JC did it scenario.
He put a case to the MET about what he thought, but there are glaring gaps in this book that cannot be ignored (ie ignores BW sighting altogether) . Now his interviews with some of the Sturgis staff in this book are a little conflicting from what was conveyed in 86 - but that could be due to the passage of time.

You can find the books on Ebay ( but the 1988 one is available to read on the Internet Archive website (you have to check it out to read it)

Another book is called 'Prime Suspect' by Christopher Berry Dee and Robin Odell, who basically wrote this book about JC and his crimes, and had contact with him whilst he was in prison (after the SB murder). It does not focus on SL alot but it does provide a fair bit of insight into JCs character.

If anyone is quoting a source (ie Foskett Road )can you please reference it so we all know where it is coming from ? That would be lovely

Hi Rookie D

Thankyou - Yep absolutely get that. I would not however put AS book in this category because he was not selling the book . The money went to the trust. Happy to reference you the articles again I have posted upthread about this.
If there is one book you should read it is this one.

No one here who has been on this case for years would say its the absolute holy grail, but its the closest thing to the factual police investigation at the time that is available.

I will put the articles up again for you to read so it gives you some context. This journalist was deeply hurt about the work he put into this book (and yes it revealed some truths about SL that her parents did not want to accept).

I would love to be able to speak to him in 2026 about his experience and his research.

Slightly off topic here, but what was your take on the book? I thought it was quite respectful to SJL but obviously the Lamplugh's thought differently. Do you think it was the reference to prostitution that stuck in their craw?

I thought the author was quite clear that that was the Police's thinking since Suzy seemed to manage her money very well for someone who was a Estate Agent.

The Police quickly dismissed this though. I think it was more a example of Policethink and methods in the 80's.

I thought the Lamplugh's came across as quite entitled but of course if I were in their position I would be more likely just as forceful.

Imo, DL and PL's objections to the book were more likely as a result of how they, and as a consequence the family were depicted.

 

[kes1972]

Hi all

Here's a little teaser here...

Interesting that exactly one week after the disappearance of SL, when the police got WPC Suzanne Long to play the part of SL for a police reconstruction, that parked outside Sturgis on Chesilton Road, there was a dark coloured BMW captured in the shot.

The BMW appears to be a convertible.

Let's not forget that this reconstruction was filmed on Monday 4th August 1986, way before a BMW is even mentioned.

It's also fascinating that as WPC Suzanne Long walks out of the doorway, a man appears in the background as he walks into shot, and stands momentarily to watch. He can seen through the reflection of the mirror. As Suzanne then walks past the window, the man walks off. One would assume that this was the police officer who played Mr Kipper for the reconstruction, because if it wasn't then...

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Can you imagine.

Great spot
I wonder if anyone on facebook can clean up/enhance that photo as they are very good at doing so!

 

[kes1972]

And of course, if those images of that parked BMW from the very first reconstruction can be enhanced and the number plate of that dark BMW deciphered, and then that turns out to match a left hand drive BMW...then there's a good chance that the abduction vehicle is right there staring us in the face.

And has been all along

Where's the one place you'd least expect to find the car used to abduct SL a week after it happened?

Parked outside Sturgis of course.

And is that Mr Kipper standing there in the reflection of the doorway?

Surely not.

But stranger things have happened.


As I said before, if this case is to be solved, then don't think like the police; think like the killer.

 

[kes1972]

Possibly used by a sturgis employee from another office?