UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 Jul 1986 #8

[lee sumner]

Do we know to which cinema WJ and her children went to watch the film?

pinnochio up here where i live also means someone who tell a lot of lies. was WJ a proper pinnochio telling porkies.

 

[lee sumner]

There were a few options...

25th July 1986...

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Hammersmith or Kensington would seem the most likely.

But there's also Ealing, Harrow, Notting Hill, and Richmond.

Note that the large 5 screen cinema on the Fulham Road, wasn't showing Pinocchio!

Also note that Brentford Cinema is listed after Richmond Odeon, but they weren't showing Pinocchio either, so I edited the post to highlight ALL the local cinemas who were actually showing the movie.

good work. the people on this forum impress me with there research.

 

[lee sumner]

A. Question, who did wj go to the bank with? I am sure i read she was with a friend.

ann mahon who owned the garage where SL was overlapping.

 

[lee sumner]

ann mahon who owned the garage where SL was overlapping.

car overlapping.

 

[lee sumner]

she did do a lot in 10mins, and did she even mention the white fiesta to ann mahon who lived at the address with her husband richard who might not get his car in the garage because SL car was blocking it. only it was not blocking entry. it was 13 inches overlapping. if WJ was so suspicious of white fiesta like she made out, why did she and ann not go over to investigate. have a look at the car who knows it could have been stolen.

husband leo, not richard. my mistake.

 

[lee sumner]

Not quite sure what the logistics were, or even whether WJ told AM at all - or merely thought it. I'm not even sure at what point WJ says the car was overlapping - she seems to have been pretty distracted that day - kids off school, dog needing to be walked and returning to the house,. She's anxious about coins being counted at the bank and notices the time on the clock there...not sure how clear it is at what point she noticed the car... Could easily be later in the afternoon - i think generally agreed that she saw a different car earlier, albeit a similar one perhaps. Plenty of similar cars about, including tons of Fiestas. . Mr Mahon returned later though and was able to drive into the garage despite car overlapping (by about 18 inches, iirc).

i thought the same. in AS book it does not say WJ told AM about the white fiesta nearly blocking the garage entrance. the details are a bit sketchy, and if WJ was so suspicious of the fiesta why not walk over and check it out, it could have been a stolen car. she took her dog out, then gave AM a knock, then they drove to the bank waiting in line, then came home. all this in 10mins.

 

[lee sumner]

I really don’t feel MG is/was in any way shady or withholding information. He was young & found himself in an extraordinary position. Everyone was totally shocked at the time.

These deals & MG deciding who should get each property were very common at time, as NH put it to DV “live by the sword, die by the sword”. I do agree it would be useful to know which property it was SL had lost out on. The man holding the champagne at Shorrolds - if accurate sighting - was perhaps looking to seal a private deal. Private, as they carefully ruled out everyone on Sturgis books.

What’s interesting for me is if SL’s anger & frustration at losing out was unusual (?) She’d lost expected, if not immediate, money. Money, I think she was in a hurry for, looking at evidence we have.

The money she mentioned on Sat night, she didn’t say how she expected to come by it, were there ‘strings’ (?) Just thinking about @Clairybums sighting & how it might tie up. It almost certainly wasn’t ‘regular’ via Sturgis. When she found out what the conditions were, did she bail? Did losing out to NH make her finally take a risk she’d been considering?

@Clairybums sighting may well be the most important & relevant development in this case for some time.

re, gurdon. same here. he was SL boss. only 28 yrs old and in shock at what was happening.

 

[Rookie D]

husband leo, not richard. my mistake.

You were right the first time; the man who owned the garage was Richard Mahon.

 

[WestLondoner]

AS does not mention her losing commision to hindle. its probably more BS being fed to DV.

Or the police failed to understand the possible importance of what was happening in the office that day. They knew she might have gone to 37SR, 123SR, home, her mother's house or to the PoW. They searched the first four, but not the fifth, because the landlord said she'd not been. Can't imagine what they were thinking.