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AS could’ve had access to every single police note and every diary entry and letter pertaining to this case (he almost certainly didn’t, obviously!) but if the information contained within them was unreliable or not credible then the story is compromised.
Quite. The police reckon it was JC, but JC was not in the files at the time - so the information in them must be worthless in their current view.
DV was a cop for around 3 yrs
His website says 'decades.' Media sources say 20 years.
 
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no way. i bet the police all had a great laugh when DV put his theory forward. they must have thought he was a loony tunes, ha, ha.
I do know for a fact not the case. Some of the investigative work he did has been v valuable & even shed new light. As you say though, proving anything at so many years distance a real challenge.
 
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No wonder DL had her theories etc when these types preying on family…Just came across this.
 
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i disagree. there are many investigative jornalists who do a excellent job on certain cases. they are just as smart as detectives. DV was a cop for around 3 yrs, which is not very long. he obviously was not built to be a street smart investigator/detective. DV saying SL never took the keys to 37SR is an insult to the original detective DCS carter. carter would not miss such a key detail in the case.
But any staff member could have removed the keys so that is not really provable
 
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I do know for a fact not the case. Some of the investigative work he did has been v valuable & even shed new light. As you say though, proving anything at so many years distance a real challenge.
Well it was always and still is a possibility that is unproven either way so i would not say loony,
 
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Well it was always and still is a possibility that is unproven either way so i would not say loony.
It was what DV turned up beyond any direct ‘KH theory’ that was especially interesting & important I believe. DV made some new discoveries.
 
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It was what DV turned up beyond any direct ‘KH theory’ that was especially interesting & important I believe. DV made some new discoveries.
Can i ask what discoveries? As i have not read hos book i have no idea what those are. Tia
 
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That reminds me of the reconstruction of arguing couple (woman looking like she’s screaming) in BMW (2000 Crimewatch) but guess you’ve ruled that out?
No not how you describe it. I recall a young couple in a car driving behind a car in front and i dont recall them talking about an arguing couple but a woman acting strangely as if she was pleading in the rear view window to them the couple in the car behind that she might need help. There was no arguing mentioned. This is a very old memory but I specifically remember they were just talking about a woman possibly asking for help.
 
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Can i ask what discoveries? As i have not read hos book i have no idea what those are. T
A long conversation with Ryan (DV book) shows later investigation/s had some fairly major incorrect assumptions one being that WJ’s house in Stevenage Rd a known about, scheduled viewing
No not how you describe it. I recall a young couple in a car driving behind a car in front and i dont recall them talking about an arguing couple but a woman acting strangely as if she was pleading in the rear view window to them the couple in the car behind that she might need help. There was no arguing mentioned. This is a very old memory but I specifically remember they were just talking about a woman possibly asking for help.
Interesting. Reminds me of a Penny Bell reconstruction where she’s mouthing “help” or similar.
 
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No not how you describe it. I recall a young couple in a car driving behind a car in front and i dont recall them talking about an arguing couple but a woman acting strangely as if she was pleading in the rear view window to them the couple in the car behind that she might need help. There was no arguing mentioned. This is a very old memory but I specifically remember they were just talking about a woman possibly asking for help.
You are not confusing this with penny bell are you? Just asking
 
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A long conversation with Ryan (DV book) shows later investigation/s had some fairly major incorrect assumptions one being that WJ’s house in Stevenage Rd a known about, scheduled viewing

Interesting. Reminds me of a Penny Bell reconstruction where she’s mouthing “help” or similar.
Well that would tally with mrs jagodas sighting of sl outside 123sr, i was thinking maybe sl with her assumed dyslexia may have mistaken shorrolds road (sr) with stevenage road (sr) possibly?
 
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A long conversation with Ryan (DV book) shows later investigation/s had some fairly major incorrect assumptions one being that WJ’s house in Stevenage Rd a known about, scheduled viewing

Interesting. Reminds me of a Penny Bell reconstruction where she’s mouthing “help” or similar.
I recall fists pounding on rear window iirc but it was so long ago
 
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You are not confusing this with penny bell are you? Just asking
Can anyone point me to penny ball info either in video or print please?
 
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I don’t think the alleged sighting of Penny mouthing for help was in the CW reconstruction, the witness who claimed to have seen this came forward as a result of seeing the show IIRC.

Some info here on Penny’s case.
 
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Probably just coincidence, but Sharon Hoare was murdered in Fulham in 1991. She had a much older, businessman 'boyfriend' from Bristol, and was involved in a mailing address fraud.
Does Sharon not have her own page?
 
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Probably just coincidence, but Sharon Hoare was murdered in Fulham in 1991. She had a much older, businessman 'boyfriend' from Bristol, and was involved in a mailing address fraud.
What's also interesting about the murder of Sharon Hoare, was the proximity of her flat to Shorrolds Road and North End Road; namely Brompton Crescent Park (just north of Stamford Bridge football ground)

But there's also another interesting article dated from August 18th 1991, in which it mentions yet another woman who was attacked within a one mile radius, but who survived her ordeal; namely Lucy Christopher.

And what's perhaps rather tantalising in there being a potential link with the SL case, is the physical description given by LC of the man who left her for dead; and who likely had murdered Sharon Hoare just a few days beforehand in Brompton Crescent Park.

Here's the article with the matching e-fit of the attacker...

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It could be argued that he resembles the man who hailed a black taxi cab after having just claimed to have heard a couple arguing closeby.

But seeing as that witness never came forward, and he was the only witness AFAIK who mentioned of having witnessed an argument, the question arises; could the man who hailed the black taxi cab on the day of the disappearance of SL, have been the man who attacked LC and who likely have murdered Sharon Hoare?

Furthermore...was the "witness" who claimed to have seen and heard a couple arguing fiercely in Stevenage road, the man who actually murdered SL?

Of course, this e-fit also resembles the actual black taxi cab driver who appears in the reconstruction, and who claimed to have picked up the man who then told him he had witnessed a fierce argument closeby.

But what if this never happened?

Could this same black taxi cab driver, have also been the same taxi driver who dropped Sharon Hoare off in Brompton Park Crescent?

The cab driver who dropped Sharon Hoare off at her flat, was the last person to see her alive.

While Sharon Hoare and LC were high class "call girls," a potential link to mailing address fraud, could be the one piece of data that then links to the disappearance of SL.

Conjecture and supposition from my part of course.
 
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I don’t think the alleged sighting of Penny mouthing for help was in the CW reconstruction, the witness who claimed to have seen this came forward as a result of seeing the show IIRC.

Some info here on Penny’s case.

Oh that poor lady. No, no, no what i remember was 100% in connection with Suzy Lamplugh. The thing I've mentioned on crimewatch at least twice, from early on. Are all the Crimewatch programme's available to see online (eg youtube) from 1986?
 
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Oh that poor lady. No, no, no what i remember was 100% in connection with Suzy Lamplugh. The thing I've mentioned on crimewatch at least twice, from early on. Are all the Crimewatch programme's available to see online (eg youtube) from 1986?
Yes they are all on there
 

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