UK UK - Suzy Lamplugh, 25, Fulham, 28 July 1986

[FCA]

Didn't the canal guy go straight to the police at the time. He went to Cannan's trial to see if it was him that he had seen dumping the suitcase. I believe he went three times to the police but they didn't take him seriously. It was a friend of his that then contacted police many years later and when they looked into it they didn't find any report about it.

Did he call Crimewatch when they appealed? We only have the friend's word for it. Possibly he did but might have been someone who looked similar fly tipping.

If it was John Cannan he saw, it meant that he'd spent the last six nights in London (until the Thursday) yet he apparently turned up on Monday teatime at his childhood home in Sutton Coldfield with all his possessions and lots of bags in the hostel cook's car who I think drove him back.

 

[FCA]

Didn't the canal guy go straight to the police at the time. He went to Cannan's trial to see if it was him that he had seen dumping the suitcase. I believe he went three times to the police but they didn't take him seriously. It was a friend of his that then contacted police many years later and when they looked into it they didn't find any report about it.

Did he call Crimewatch when they appealed? We only have the friend's word for it. Possibly he did but might have been someone who looked similar fly tipping.

If it was John Cannan he saw, it meant that he'd spent the last six nights in London (until the Thursday) yet he apparently turned up on Monday teatime at his childhood home in Sutton Coldfield with all his possessions and lots of bags in hostel cook's car. The cook drove him back I think.

 

[Terryb808]

Didn't the canal guy go straight to the police at the time. He went to Cannan's trial to see if it was him that he had seen dumping the suitcase. I believe he went three times to the police but they didn't take him seriously. It was a friend of his that then contacted police many years later and when they looked into it they didn't find any report about it.

You’re spot on, Jim Dickie said that the Brentford police have no record of him reporting sighting Mr Kipper dumping the case in the canal. Also, unfortunately the driver had since died and the account (which featured in the last two Docs) is being passed on by a friend.
This is far from ideal and makes it less convincing as evidence. According to other books John Cannan was at home with his mother by 5pm on the 28th July, so could not have been dumping the case in the canal on the Thursday.

 

[Crusader21]

Even if they wanted to, can the police even possibly admit that they were mistaken about John Cannan?

What with Cannan's upcoming parole hearing, and especially in the light of the recent news about another 1980's convicted murder, Colin Pitchfork?

 

[Officer Dibble]

FOX - What are your views on the pub landlord in all of this?

I know in a previous post you said you didn't believe Cannan was responsible for Suzy's disappearance (something I agree with 100%), and you felt a local person was involved. Could the landlord be this person? I don't know where he is from originally but he lived and worked in the area so would be classed as a local.

I find his account of Suzy's diary, chequebook & postcard being found on the steps of the pub on the Friday night an unlikely story. Why didn't Suzy apparently miss these items over the weekend? It was only in work on the Monday morning that the other staff said she was concerned over her missing chequebook.

We only have the landlord's word for when the items were found, and he also said that Suzy was supposed to collect them at 6.00 that Monday evening. As we know Suzy sadly never got to retrieve her items, and it's my belief that the pub was where she was heading for when she left work that Monday lunchtime.

Is the bank meant to have phoned Susie at work? I find that odd. What Bank knows your work phone number even back in 1986. My bank would have had my home phone number not a work number. Therefore IF 'the bank' phoned her was it a 'fake bank call' to say her items had been found? Did the Police check to see if officially the bank did contact her to say her cheque book etc was found? JMO MOO

 

[Officer Dibble]

Points of Interest

1. Why Mr Kipper
   1. Suzy and the Putney set liked to use nicknames.
   2. An old boyfriend lived in Shorrolds Road.
   3. His surname was Haddock, Suzy would have thought Mr Kipper,very appropriate.

Is this true, her ex boyfriend's surname was Haddock?

 

[Pinkizzy]

Is this true, her ex boyfriend's surname was Haddock?

I reckon his surname was Herring or Haddock

 

[FCA]

The facts are these:

A man Suzy had, had a relationship lived about 14 doors away from 37 Shorrolds Rd. This was a brief relationship. His name is not on the record. He was ruled out.
He was NOT called Herring or Haddock or anything similar and he was ruled out.
There WAS a man called Herring who owned a BMW, he had a brother who was client of Sturgis and had been on their mailing lists. Both Herrings were ruled out and did not have romantic relationships with Suzy.

Suzy did not know a Haddock and this name doesn't feature at all.
The Herring brothers were known as Kip or Kipper as nicknames.
There was also a journalist in the road called Skipper that Suzy knew, also ruled out.

In a documentary recently it was said that Suzy made up the appointment in Shorrolds road using the name KIPPER as she possibly associated it with the references above, it was familiar in her mind and linked, possibly, to the road by association. It came to mind easily.

 

[Crusader21]

Loads of reviews for the new book online, anyone got a copy yet?

 

[Pinkizzy]

What do the reviews say? Anything new?

 

[Pinkizzy]

Is the bank meant to have phoned Susie at work? I find that odd. What Bank knows your work phone number even back in 1986. My bank would have had my home phone number not a work number. Therefore IF 'the bank' phoned her was it a 'fake bank call' to say her items had been found? Did the Police check to see if officially the bank did contact her to say her cheque book etc was found? JMO MOO

I guess Sturrgis appeared on her bank statement every month and that's how they knew her work number

 

[Terryb808]

I guess Sturrgis appeared on her bank statement every month and that's how they knew her work number

The point about the bank not having your work phone number is a very good one. Especially if you link this to the possibility that Suzy’s thing were taken on purpose. They would have provided bait to get Suzy out of the office on the Monday.

 

[FOXINBOX]

Well, after all the fuss, what did the book say? Who is Videcette's suspect and where is Suzy?

 

[FOXINBOX]

I just paid good money for a download and read the last chapter summing up his case. IMO There's nothing in the book that hasn't been aired on this thread in the past few weeks, nothing.

 

[Crusader21]

I just paid good money for a download and read the last chapter summing up his case. IMO There's nothing in the book that hasn't been aired on this thread in the past few weeks, nothing.

That's prob down to a combination of what David Videette previously released in to the public domain and what folks have pieced together for themesleves.

Having sped-read through the book this morning, imo it is indeed quite of piece of work ....

 

[FOXINBOX]

That's prob down to a combination of what David Videette previously released in to the public domain and what folks have pieced together for themsleves.
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Indeed. He could have skipped the book and published the WebSleuths thread

 

[Bohobird]

My book should hopefully be arriving tomorrow,All reviews are looking good 5 out of 5,So with the book released ,Will the Met act ?

 

[Crusader21]

So with the book released ,Will the Met act ?

Something will need to be done regarding the pub. I'd imagine it will beome a macarbe tourist attraction, quite surreal with people knowing they are drinking feet away from where a book claims Suzy Lamplugh's body is located!

Although maybe the present pub owners will be delighted with the increased numbers attending the establishment!

 

[FOXINBOX]

Something will need to be done regarding the pub. I'd imagine it will beome a macarbe tourist attraction, quite surreal with people knowing they are drinking feet away from where a book claims Suzy Lamplugh's body is located!

Although maybe the present pub owners will be delighted with the increased numbers attending the establishment!

I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would bury a body on licensed premises when there is an untended railway embankment at the back of the pub.

 

[Crusader21]

I can't for the life of me imagine why anyone would bury a body on licensed premises when there is an untended railway embankment at the back of the pub.

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The secluded railway embankment location was my initial guess.

Though the new book reports cycles of bluebottles afterwards plus a mound of debris on top, so that's where it may well be to this day.

I wonder if there will be any fall-out, say if Suzy's body is indeed recovered now, to the fact that the Met were given a file with this info in 2019?