GUILTY UK - Viktorija Sokolova, 14, Murdered, Wolverhampton W. Mids, 11 April 2018 *Arrests*

[Tortoise]

Now let's hope he doesn't get a disgustingly lenient sentence because of his age. I hope he is put in an adult prison as soon as he is 18.

 

[Tortoise]

The violence is presumed to have been triggered by Viktorija rebuffing the sexual advances of the teenager, who had no previous convictions.

He claimed to be suffering from depression and anxiety but a psychiatric report revealed nothing in his mental state that could be used in defence of his horrifying attack.

Det Insp Caroline Corfield, who led the police investigation, revealed the mother and stepfather of the murder victim had never been suspects and said of the defendant: "There was no clue he could commit this violent act but once we understood what he was capable of, I was not the only person on the inquiry who lost sleep over the possibility of him being acquitted and walking free from court."

Viktorija Sokolova: Boy, 16, GUILTY of rape and murder of Wolverhampton schoolgirl

 

[mrazda71]

Yep, I've known someone very well with a daughter who went through similar to Viktorija, locking the house up at night, running away, horrible friends, playing truant etc. But I never heard of getting rid of/burning clothes before, or that being a message of 'don't leave'.

I've taken a make up bag away, thinking that my daughter (who wouldn't leave her room without FULL make up on) wouldn't leave the house when she wasn't allowed to ... but she did. When you're desperate to keep them safe and they are so desperate to get out and be with 'the wrong uns' things can get so ridiculous! from the outside, people might think 'well that's not gonna work or that's the wrong thing to do' but ... it's not so easy on the inside.

I feel a lot of empathy for her mother. I got my daughter out the other side of her phase and now she's 23 and tells me often that she's glad I didn't give up trying to keep her safe because she'd either be an addict or have 2 or 3 kids by now. Toris mum won't get to make it through the phase and she'll have to forever think of how her daughters life ended

 

[Tortoise]

12:38KEY EVENT
Guilty
He has been found guilty of rape and murder.

Here are the full details.

12:46KEY EVENT
The tragic back story
We have been in court throughout this horrific case.

These are the tragic details we are now allowed to bring to you.

Teen accused of killing schoolgirl and raping dead body

 

[Tortoise]

All I get when I open that second link (tragic details) is a story about a food outlet closed due to food hygiene.

 

[Tortoise]

He was remanded in custody until February 22 after the judge ordered a pre-sentence report.

High Court judge Mr Justice Jeremy Baker said: "He is still young, 16 years of age.

"I am obviously concerned as to the extreme nature of the offences in this case and therefore it seems to me that the court ought to be properly informed about all of the background."

Boy, 16, guilty of 'horrific' rape and murder of schoolgirl

 

[Tortoise]

A teenager hooked on extreme porn [...]

The teenager, who was born in Holland to parents from Iraq and home schooled for the past year, cannot be named because of his age - but journalists have appealed to the judge to scrap the order protecting his identity.

He had been diagnosed with anxiety and depression, and was under the care of the Child and Adolescent Mental Health Service (CAMHS) in Wolverhampton at the time of the murder, it has emerged.

Teenager, 16, is convicted of rape and murder of Viktorija Sokolova | Daily Mail Online

 

[Tortoise]

Did he go there intending to kill her then? I can't think why else he would be carrying a hammer like weapon in his bag.

 

[Tortoise]

They've corrected the incorrect link

The tragic case of troubled schoolgirl brutally murdered

 

[Sarahlou]

This is sickening. I hope he gets a very long sentence but I doubt he will due to age.

 

[JosieJo]

Why would he take a change of trousers? Same reason he'd take a hammer/weapon. It was planned.

If he'd taken off the jacket and left it say, on a bench or hanging in the pavilion away from the blood loss - then changed his trousers and top - washed off blood in the lake (hence the phone being in middle of lake and boots next to it) then put the coat on and left ... no blood on coat.

No blood IN his house cause he didn't go in his house - he and brother went elsewhere for an hour - bag (containing blood stained top, trousers, trainers and weapon) was disposed of and defendent thoroughly cleaned.

With shows like Dexter and Making a Murderer, it's not hard to pick up tips on getting away with murder these days.

Well obviously he would take trousers and weapon if planned it's just that it seemed a crime carried out in anger from her rebuttal rather than planned.
It's also still very unusual for their to be no forensics especially as he was picked up quickly..not that clever if dumps her Jean's in a near by bin and leaves a social media trail

 

[Whatevr]

Glad he's been found guilty, although he'll probably get some pathetic sentence. His brother isn't in trouble for presumably helping the accused of destroying evidence? And have the police identified the man that the accused brother was in the street with, imo it's not out of the question that someone found her in that state and raped her the 2nd time. Especially if they knew what the first guy did i.e. his mates/brother whoever the unidentified man is around at that time could have participated.

 

[Tortoise]

I do still think others were there. Not only because of the additional DNA but because he switched off his phone and didn't call his brother to meet him but he was there anyway.

 

[Tortoise]

Well obviously he would take trousers and weapon if planned it's just that it seemed a crime carried out in anger from her rebuttal rather than planned.
It's also still very unusual for their to be no forensics especially as he was picked up quickly..not that clever if dumps her Jean's in a near by bin and leaves a social media trail

Good points and BBM I agree, planning doesn't match the motive they've given of anger.

 

[Tortoise]

Glad he's been found guilty, although he'll probably get some pathetic sentence. His brother isn't in trouble for presumably helping the accused of destroying evidence? And have the police identified the man that the accused brother was in the street with, imo it's not out of the question that someone found her in that state and raped her the 2nd time. Especially if they knew what the first guy did i.e. his mates/brother whoever the unidentified man is around at that time could have participated.

Welcome Whatevr! I agree with you, I'd like to hear the police address these points. There are still questions.

 

[Tortoise]

Detectives notched up what is thought to be a legal first while bringing Viktorija Sokolova's killer to justice - by 'lifting' a fingerprint from a mobile phone video.

Viktorija Sokolova: How video 'fingerprint' helped police catch West Park killer

 

[Hedgehog]

There is a possibility he may be named at some point. Journalists are piling on the pressure to have the judge give permission for this to be allowed.
Two hours he tortured her for before she died
Teenager, 16, is convicted of rape and murder of Viktorija Sokolova | Daily Mail Online

 

[Alyce]

From Hedgehog's link above

Then eight days before Viktorija's murder, he contacted her using Facebook Messenger.

'She commented herself on the unusual nature of this sudden contact, not having spoken to him in a long time.

'He was suggesting they leave for London together.


So the London idea was maybe what made her want to see him. She was clearly very unhappy at home and perhaps thought he - being a few years older - might be useful to travel to London with.

Teenager, 16, is convicted of rape and murder of Viktorija Sokolova | Daily Mail Online

 

[Tortoise]

I hope for everyone's sake they convicted the right person. I just see an extraordinary amount of the police defending their case in the reports and it leaves me uncomfortable. I still haven't read one thing that would make me certain he murdered her.

Teenager, 16, is convicted of rape and murder of Viktorija Sokolova | Daily Mail Online

'Yet the CCTV suggested he was in the park with her for two hours.


'The reason he was also charged with rape is that we recovered DNA from in and on Viktorija's body that proved that her killer had had sex with her.

'If that had been consensual, there is no explanation for Viktorija's murder.

'If that had been consensual, then why did Viktorija not leave that park alive?

was there not other evidence the sex was not consensual?


'So he had thrown it, I believe, intending for it to go into the water but it actually landed on dry land.

'Why would her killer want to dispose of her mobile phone unless that was evidence linking the killer to her?

can this not also apply to rapist and not murderer and was his DNA/fingerprint found on her phone?

It seems like a case of we know he was there. We can't say who else was there even though there are two other unidentified contributors of semen on her.

 

[JosieJo]

I hope for everyone's sake they convicted the right person. I just see an extraordinary amount of the police defending their case in the reports and it leaves me uncomfortable. I still haven't read one thing that would make me certain he murdered her.

Teenager, 16, is convicted of rape and murder of Viktorija Sokolova | Daily Mail Online

'Yet the CCTV suggested he was in the park with her for two hours.


'The reason he was also charged with rape is that we recovered DNA from in and on Viktorija's body that proved that her killer had had sex with her.

'If that had been consensual, there is no explanation for Viktorija's murder.

'If that had been consensual, then why did Viktorija not leave that park alive?

was there not other evidence the sex was not consensual?


'So he had thrown it, I believe, intending for it to go into the water but it actually landed on dry land.

'Why would her killer want to dispose of her mobile phone unless that was evidence linking the killer to her?

can this not also apply to rapist and not murderer and was his DNA/fingerprint found on her phone?

It seems like a case of we know he was there. We can't say who else was there even though there are two other unidentified contributors of semen on her.

I feel a bit like that at the moment